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Title: So...What Now?
Post by: AUChizad on December 14, 2011, 11:33:25 AM
Wish lists?

DC:
I've heard conflicting reports on whether or not the Mark Stoops deal is completely dead or not. Still holding out hope? If not, any other realistic options being mentioned?

OC:
Would Al Borges return? He coached alongside Chizik in 04. I gotta believe he's in his Roladex. He liked it here. I remember seeing him at baseball games like 2 years after he was let go, before he took the job at San Diego State. Other candidates?
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: AWK on December 14, 2011, 11:39:16 AM
Wish lists?

DC:
I've heard conflicting reports on whether or not the Mark Stoops deal is completely dead or not. Still holding out hope? If not, any other realistic options being mentioned?

OC:
Would Al Borges return? He coached alongside Chizik in 04. I gotta believe he's in his Roladex. He liked it here. I remember seeing him at baseball games like 2 years after he was let go, before he took the job at San Diego State. Other candidates?
Al Borges is currently the OC at Michigan.  He would be in his second year next year and I don't think he would leave.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: djsimp on December 14, 2011, 11:42:38 AM
Skreetz keep saying Stoops.


Baylor OC, Phil Montgomery
Hogs OL Coach, Chris Klenakis (Think back to Nevadas offense two years ago....was bad ass)
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 14, 2011, 05:14:54 PM
Saw where Chad Morris just got a contract extension at Clemson.  Coincidence? 

Heard one of the Auburn website dudes on Finebaum talking OC names.  Can't recall the names, but one was the OC at Texas when Chiz was there, and the other is the guy that is the OC at So. Miss, though he may get the HC gig there. 
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: djsimp on December 14, 2011, 05:29:15 PM
Names being tossed out there:

former Texas OC Greg Davis Sr.
Curtis Luper
USM OC Blake Anderson
BYU OC  Brandon Doman
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 14, 2011, 06:07:25 PM
Texas fans loathed Davis while he was there. 
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 14, 2011, 06:27:43 PM
Texas fans loathed Davis while he was there.

And? 
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: wesfau2 on December 14, 2011, 06:32:01 PM
And?

Agree that fan opinion shouldn't rule the day, but absent the Young/McCoy years, Davis hasn't been very impressive.  Would be, in my uneducated opinion a very "meh" hire.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 14, 2011, 06:36:55 PM
Agree that fan opinion shouldn't rule the day, but absent the Young/McCoy years, Davis hasn't been very impressive.  Would be, in my uneducated opinion a very "meh" hire.

From 98 to 2009, he produced consistently high scoring offenses.  He didn't even experience a drop off post VY. 
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: wesfau2 on December 14, 2011, 06:40:10 PM
  post VY.

You mean the McCoy years...covered that already.  My biggest concern is the complete lack of a run game of note.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 14, 2011, 06:43:19 PM
You mean the McCoy years...covered that already.  My biggest concern is the complete lack of a run game of note.

He was pretty good prior to VY too.  That said, I wouldn't like the hire, but because this guy is older, and not HC material.  One short gig at Tulane.  Nobody is clamoring to hire this guy.  He's older, and more likely to be contrary to authority, and just say "fuck it" when things go bad.   I'd much prefer a guy with a hunger to be a HC...a guy full of piss and vinegar with something to prove.   
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Godfather on December 14, 2011, 06:48:46 PM
JR4AU would be on my short list of OC candidates.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: wesfau2 on December 14, 2011, 06:55:26 PM
He was pretty good prior to VY too.  That said, I wouldn't like the hire, but because this guy is older, and not HC material.  One short gig at Tulane.  Nobody is clamoring to hire this guy.  He's older, and more likely to be contrary to authority, and just say "fuck it" when things go bad.   I'd much prefer a guy with a hunger to be a HC...a guy full of piss and vinegar with something to prove.

Agree with your take on his age/hunger.  To his credit, Tubs always wanted ambitious assistants.  I hope that Chizik took that lesson to heart.

I'm starting to come around to the school of thought that the spread, while once a success in the SEC, has run its course here.  You aren't going to surprise anyone with speed in this league.  I think Saban and Miles are showing that a big, fast defense (focus on the front 7) and a power running game/play action offense are the reliable and consistent ways to win in this league.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 14, 2011, 06:56:47 PM
JR4AU would be on my short list of OC candidates.

I know enough to know I'm not the man for the job.  Nobody would like it when I called a quick kick on 3rd and long. 
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 14, 2011, 06:58:58 PM
I know enough to know I'm not the man for the job.  Nobody would like it when I called a quick kick on 3rd and long.

No way...that is the most underrated play in college football.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 14, 2011, 07:03:19 PM
Agree with your take on his age/hunger.  To his credit, Tubs always wanted ambitious assistants.  I hope that Chizik took that lesson to heart.

I'm starting to come around to the school of thought that the spread, while once a success in the SEC, has run its course here.  You aren't going to surprise anyone with speed in this league.  I think Saban and Miles are showing that a big, fast defense (focus on the front 7) and a power running game/play action offense are the reliable and consistent ways to win in this league.

There is nothing that won't work if you have the players, and nothing that produces yards and points without players.   

In the end, if you can't block, you can't run an offense effectively.   If your QB can't run your system, you're pretty well fucked. 
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: wesfau2 on December 14, 2011, 07:15:22 PM
There is nothing that won't work if you have the players, and nothing that produces yards and points without players.   

In the end, if you can't block, you can't run an offense effectively.   If your QB can't run your system, you're pretty well fucked.

Sort of agree....

Auburn ran Oregon off the field (though the scoreboard didn't properly reflect it) because we could match their speed with superior size.

Auburn did not run many SEC teams off the field, because they matched our speed AND size.  Auburn caught the SEC after it had a few years to adjust to UF's spread/speed.  Without #2 to bail us out with freakish play, that offense wasn't nearly the comeback juggernaut it became.

In other words: an SEC team running the spread can whip the dog piss out of just about any non-SEC team in the nation.  It's a brutal combination of size and speed.  All things being equal in the SEC, a spread team just doesn't provide the complete mismatch anymore.  The scheme has been bested.  The trend will turn and one day the spread will work again, but for now it's day is done.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 14, 2011, 07:28:04 PM
Sort of agree....

Auburn ran Oregon off the field (though the scoreboard didn't properly reflect it) because we could match their speed with superior size.

Auburn did not run many SEC teams off the field, because they matched our speed AND size.  Auburn caught the SEC after it had a few years to adjust to UF's spread/speed.  Without #2 to bail us out with freakish play, that offense wasn't nearly the comeback juggernaut it became.

In other words: an SEC team running the spread can whip the dog piss out of just about any non-SEC team in the nation.  It's a brutal combination of size and speed.  All things being equal in the SEC, a spread team just doesn't provide the complete mismatch anymore.  The scheme has been bested.  The trend will turn and one day the spread will work again, but for now it's day is done.

Many coaches believe that if you run something radically different from what the rest of your league runs, you can have some success with lesser players, but it won't last forever. 

I can assure you, bammer and LSU present zero surprises to opposing defenses.  For that matter neither does Spurrier, Richt or Petrino.  In a sense, at least at LSU and Bammer they require more and better players, because they both rely on physically pushing you around.   As long as they have big, mature experienced OLs, they can be successful.   It's easy to give all the credit to Cam, but Auburn had that ability last season with our OL.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: jmar on December 14, 2011, 09:26:25 PM
Many coaches believe that if you run something radically different from what the rest of your league runs, you can have some success with lesser players, but it won't last forever. 

I can assure you, bammer and LSU present zero surprises to opposing defenses.  For that matter neither does Spurrier, Richt or Petrino.  In a sense, at least at LSU and Bammer they require more and better players, because they both rely on physically pushing you around.   As long as they have big, mature experienced OLs, they can be successful.   It's easy to give all the credit to Cam, but Auburn had that ability last season with our OL.
I prefer the spread but would think a run based West Coast gives us more choices for a top coordinator...assuming we intend to move toward a pro-style attack with our current skill players.     
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 14, 2011, 09:57:06 PM
I prefer the spread but would think a run based West Coast gives us more choices for a top coordinator...assuming we intend to move toward a pro-style attack with our current skill players.   

huh?
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: jmar on December 14, 2011, 10:11:31 PM
huh?
Still sore that I scuffed-up Malzahn huh?
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 14, 2011, 10:25:02 PM
And?

Do you think all fan opinion is disqualified from being part of a discussion?
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Godfather on December 14, 2011, 11:24:49 PM
Sort of agree....

Auburn ran Oregon off the field (though the scoreboard didn't properly reflect it) because we could match their speed with superior size.

Auburn did not run many SEC teams off the field, because they matched our speed AND size.  Auburn caught the SEC after it had a few years to adjust to UF's spread/speed.  Without #2 to bail us out with freakish play, that offense wasn't nearly the comeback juggernaut it became.

In other words: an SEC team running the spread can whip the dog piss out of just about any non-SEC team in the nation.  It's a brutal combination of size and speed.  All things being equal in the SEC, a spread team just doesn't provide the complete mismatch anymore.  The scheme has been bested.  The trend will turn and one day the spread will work again, but for now it's day is done.

Now I know why you are my hero.  This is exactly my thought.  MY problem with the spread, is that I do think it is an awesome system....if you have the right players.  Otherwise I think it pales in comparison to just running a a Pro-Style offense.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: The Prowler on December 15, 2011, 01:22:02 AM
IMO, I'd promote Coach Loop to OC/RB Coach and bring in Rhett Lashley as the QB Coach.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 15, 2011, 04:13:50 AM
Still sore that I scuffed-up Malzahn huh?

You did what?
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 15, 2011, 04:16:25 AM
Do you think all fan opinion is disqualified from being part of a discussion?

Yep.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 15, 2011, 04:18:02 AM
Now I know why you are my hero.  This is exactly my thought.  MY problem with the spread, is that I do think it is an awesome system....if you have the right players.  Otherwise I think it pales in comparison to just running a a Pro-Style offense.

Clearly, it turned out spectacular for Florida this season.

And don't forget Auburn 2005-2007 either. 
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: The Prowler on December 15, 2011, 05:31:17 AM
Clearly, it turned out spectacular for Florida this season.

And don't forget Auburn 2005-2007 either.
Florida is trying to convert from the speed/spread to the pro style, that will take atleast 2 years to transition. Auburn had some good teams from '05-'07, so I'm not sure why you brought them up...plus, most of the starters left after the '04 season.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 15, 2011, 07:19:55 AM
Yep.

But your opinion is always substantiated. 

I think I've figured this out:

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Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: djsimp on December 15, 2011, 08:32:03 AM
IMO, I'd promote Coach Loop to OC/RB Coach and bring in Rhett Lashley as the QB Coach.

This may be actually what happens....

.....then Luper part anyway. Lashlee to Ark St. with Malzahn.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: GH2001 on December 15, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
Now I know why you are my hero.  This is exactly my thought.  MY problem with the spread, is that I do think it is an awesome system....if you have the right players.  Otherwise I think it pales in comparison to just running a a Pro-Style offense.

Agree totally. Ive accepted the fact that Malzahn's offense will only beat VERY GOOD Defenses with superior talent. Anyone ever documented his record against Top 20 Defenses - W/L, PPG? It's not pretty. People talk about the records set in 2009 with Chris Todd but notice it was always against teams that were inferior in talent. All of the good teams we played in 09? The O sputtered. Even with Cam last year, the O would have its moments against a sound defense.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: GH2001 on December 15, 2011, 09:21:42 AM
Florida is trying to convert from the speed/spread to the pro style, that will take atleast 2 years to transition.

It's like I thought it out and you wrote it.

Square pegs in a round hole is what comes to mind at Florida.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 15, 2011, 09:30:19 AM
Florida is trying to convert from the speed/spread to the pro style, that will take atleast 2 years to transition. Auburn had some good teams from '05-'07, so I'm not sure why you brought them up...plus, most of the starters left after the '04 season.

Wait, you mean they can't just tutor them, and develop them in one season?

If Auburn was so good 05-07, why did Borges get axed?
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 15, 2011, 09:31:53 AM
Agree totally. Ive accepted the fact that Malzahn's ANY offense will only beat VERY GOOD Defenses with superior talent. Anyone ever documented his record against Top 20 Defenses - W/L, PPG? It's not pretty. People talk about the records set in 2009 with Chris Todd but notice it was always against teams that were inferior in talent. All of the good teams we played in 09? The O sputtered. Even with Cam last year, the O would have its moments against a sound defense.

Fixed
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: djsimp on December 15, 2011, 09:43:39 AM
I don't really see Auburn changing the offensive philosophy at this time, the spread type that is. We will probably see Auburn go after a spread type OC that likes to run the football to set up the pass; which is what Malzahn did minus the crazy gimmick plays. I don't have any problems with that at all really, I just would prefer seeing an offense to be balanced but grind out a 1st down when needed instead of some stupid WR screen. Its all well documented that our players are young and need to grow in both strength and experience; I'm tired of hearing that as an excuse though. Maybe Malzahn thought that some of these gimmick plays could make up for inexperience, I don't know. What I do know is that more times than not, that shit just isn't gonna work long.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: AUTiger1 on December 15, 2011, 10:47:39 AM
IMO, I'd promote Coach Loop to OC/RB Coach and bring in Rhett Lashley Dameyune Craig as the QB Coach.

Kiss and make up, then let him recruit for us, like he has been against us. 

Wait, you mean they can't just tutor them, and develop them in one season?

If Auburn was so good 05-07, why did Borges get axed?

Anyone realize what AU's record was when Borges was OC?  41-9.  9 L's in 4 seasons, how fucking dare his shitty offense cost us a little over 2 wins a year!!!  I think he got shit canned for two reasons.  We lost 4 games in 07, seat was a little warm, he was the scapegoat.   Not enough smoke there to warrant it if you ask me.  I also believe that he wasn't part of the BBQ gang and Tubs was always way more loyal to his assistants than he ever was an OC.   Since he wasn't part of the gang, he got got.   
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 15, 2011, 11:04:32 AM
Kiss and make up, then let him recruit for us, like he has been against us. 

Anyone realize what AU's record was when Borges was OC?  41-9.  9 L's in 4 seasons, how fucking dare his shitty offense cost us a little over 2 wins a year!!!  I think he got shit canned for two reasons.  We lost 4 games in 07, seat was a little warm, he was the scapegoat.   Not enough smoke there to warrant it if you ask me.  I also believe that he wasn't part of the BBQ gang and Tubs was always way more loyal to his assistants than he ever was an OC.   Since he wasn't part of the gang, he got got.

Tubs was more savvy than given credit for.  He knew the evil eye of the fans was always pointed at schemes, and that OCs and DCs were always blamed for losses most.  Poor play calling, you know.  "His scheme requires superior athletes".   That kind of shit.   So, he kept Coordinators at arm's length, while he kept his trusted core of ACs close.  When things go bad, save face, can a coordinator, and everybody thinks you've solved the problem, until it becomes clear that the real problem is you've stopped recruiting. 
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 15, 2011, 11:05:07 AM
Kiss and make up, then let him recruit for us, like he has been against us. 

Anyone realize what AU's record was when Borges was OC?  41-9.  9 L's in 4 seasons, how fucking dare his shitty offense cost us a little over 2 wins a year!!!  I think he got shit canned for two reasons.  We lost 4 games in 07, seat was a little warm, he was the scapegoat.   Not enough smoke there to warrant it if you ask me.  I also believe that he wasn't part of the BBQ gang and Tubs was always way more loyal to his assistants than he ever was an OC.   Since he wasn't part of the gang, he got got.

Little Jimmy says you gonna' get got.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: GH2001 on December 15, 2011, 11:17:15 AM
Fixed

Chris Peterson thinks you are full of shit. Pease and before him, Harsin, both ran a Multiple. They are successful by being fundamentally sound and they execute perfectly most of the time. They rarely make mistakes. They beat teams with better talent more times than not.

Pease coached under Guy Morriss, who coached with Mumme and Leach, which I find odd. But there's something about Peterson that is fundamentally sound.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: GH2001 on December 15, 2011, 11:19:01 AM
Kiss and make up, then let him recruit for us, like he has been against us. 

Anyone realize what AU's record was when Borges was OC?  41-9.  9 L's in 4 seasons, how fucking dare his shitty offense cost us a little over 2 wins a year!!!  I think he got shit canned for two reasons.  We lost 4 games in 07, seat was a little warm, he was the scapegoat.   Not enough smoke there to warrant it if you ask me.  I also believe that he wasn't part of the BBQ gang and Tubs was always way more loyal to his assistants than he ever was an OC.   Since he wasn't part of the gang, he got got.

Never agreed with the firing of Borges. He was meddled with and was never part of the inner circle. When he was allowed to do his thing, his Offenses were fantastic.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: AUChizad on December 15, 2011, 11:28:27 AM
Been hearing several times that the Stoops thing is not dead yet.

Could be complete bullshit, and I may have heard it here, I can't remember, but heard something about Stoops not wanting to coach where Malzahn was running the offense because their philosophies conflicted.

Supposedly, the jet's back in Tallahassee today...

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Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 15, 2011, 11:37:06 AM
Chris Peterson thinks you are full of shit. Pease and before him, Harsin, both ran a Multiple. They are successful by being fundamentally sound and they execute perfectly most of the time. They rarely make mistakes. They beat teams with better talent more times than not.

Pease coached under Guy Morriss, who coached with Mumme and Leach, which I find odd. But there's something about Peterson that is fundamentally sound.

They don't win due to scheme.  You pretty much admitted that, and I KNOW that YOU know that if they played 8 SEC games a season, they'd have an off day or 2 offensively. 

Why do you find Pease's coaching tree odd?

Is Pease the OC for realz, or just in name?  I ask, because I truly don't know if Peterson REALLY runs the offense or not. 
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: RWS on December 15, 2011, 11:42:06 AM
Clearly, it turned out spectacular for Florida this season.

And don't forget Auburn 2005-2007 either.
It's been working out quite well for Alabama lately. And it's not like they have a great QB or receivers. Pretty good OL, thought. UF is a bad example, because this is their first year running pro-style. As Prowler mentioned, it will take them a few years to get the right personnel for that, compared to the offense they have the shelves stocked for.

Part of the problem is I don't think you quite understand some folks' argument. I think everybody understands, and concedes, that AU has alot of youth on both sides of the ball; particularly on offense. Nobody expected results like last season. From most people, I've found the following arguments to be the most valid:

1. There are two upperclassmen at QB who have been in the system numerous years. It shouldn't have been a big surprise this season that that neither are worth a shit. Obviously having a shitty QB and youth on the OL don't mix. One can act as a crutch for the other to an extent. But WHY are there two upperclassmen that are shitty, and more importantly, WHY wasn't this identified sooner and players (JUCO?) recruited to fix that? Everybody knows you're not going to get good results with a shitty QB. Nobody can understand WHY there are shitty QBs with no valid replacements.

2. Youth in large quantities will result in some losses. But when you have the youth that has been recruited at the talent level that AU has been recruiting at the past 3 years, there should be something to show for it. It shouldn't look like a Chinese fire drill every Saturday, and shouldn't result in 30 point blowouts against any team halfway worth a shit.

I know that, given the opportunity, you would suck Malzahn's cock. That's cool. But from the outside looking in, those arguments above aren't really that unreasonable. Everybody knows Malzahn is somewhat limited when you don't have the players to run it. But everybody wants to know, given the players that have been recruited (after factoring in youth), why he doesn't have something that looks halfway decent. The reason why some are looking at the coaches, I think, is because of the QB situation and how that seems to have been mishandled. There is no way in hell they didn't know that Trotter/Moseley weren't going to be good. They couldn't be this shitty on the field, but showing extreme talent on the practice field the past two years. No way. That's why they wanted Cam.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: GH2001 on December 15, 2011, 11:44:37 AM
They don't win due to scheme.  You pretty much admitted that, and I KNOW that YOU know that if they played 8 SEC games a season, they'd have an off day or 2 offensively. 

Why do you find Pease's coaching tree odd?

Is Pease the OC for realz, or just in name?  I ask, because I truly don't know if Peterson REALLY runs the offense or not.

I find it odd he runs a multiple (which is Peterson's O really) coming from the Mumme Air Raid tree. He seems to have came to his senses from that Mickey Mouse bullshit of Mumme's.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: djsimp on December 15, 2011, 11:56:08 AM
Been hearing several times that the Stoops thing is not dead yet.

I have read in places that Auburn has offered Stoops 1.2 mil and FSU is not gonna match it although Nebraska is in the mix for Stoops.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 15, 2011, 11:59:37 AM
It's been working out quite well for Alabama lately. And it's not like they have a great QB or receivers. Pretty good OL, thought. UF is a bad example, because this is their first year running pro-style. As Prowler mentioned, it will take them a few years to get the right personnel for that, compared to the offense they have the shelves stocked for.

Part of the problem is I don't think you quite understand some folks' argument. I think everybody understands, and concedes, that AU has alot of youth on both sides of the ball; particularly on offense. Nobody expected results like last season. From most people, I've found the following arguments to be the most valid:

1. There are two upperclassmen at QB who have been in the system numerous years. It shouldn't have been a big surprise this season that that neither are worth a shit. Obviously having a shitty QB and youth on the OL don't mix. One can act as a crutch for the other to an extent. But WHY are there two upperclassmen that are shitty, and more importantly, WHY wasn't this identified sooner and players (JUCO?) recruited to fix that? Everybody knows you're not going to get good results with a shitty QB. Nobody can understand WHY there are shitty QBs with no valid replacements.

2. Youth in large quantities will result in some losses. But when you have the youth that has been recruited at the talent level that AU has been recruiting at the past 3 years, there should be something to show for it. It shouldn't look like a Chinese fire drill every Saturday, and shouldn't result in 30 point blowouts against any team halfway worth a shit.

I know that, given the opportunity, you would suck Malzahn's cock. That's cool. But from the outside looking in, those arguments above aren't really that unreasonable. Everybody knows Malzahn is somewhat limited when you don't have the players to run it. But everybody wants to know, given the players that have been recruited (after factoring in youth), why he doesn't have something that looks halfway decent. The reason why some are looking at the coaches, I think, is because of the QB situation and how that seems to have been mishandled. There is no way in hell they didn't know that Trotter/Moseley weren't going to be good. They couldn't be this shitty on the field, but showing extreme talent on the practice field the past two years. No way. That's why they wanted Cam.

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Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: RWS on December 15, 2011, 12:05:27 PM
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Of course you didn't. It's the same reason why you can't even understand what exactly people are upset about in regards to Malzahn. You see that it's something critical of him, so you plug your ears and loudly and hum a merry little tune.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 15, 2011, 12:07:59 PM
I have read in places that Auburn has offered Stoops 1.2 mil and FSU is not gonna match it although Nebraska is in the mix for Stoops.

Heard today that FSU is only paying him $400 or $450K.  If Auburn wants him, they aint gonna have to pay him that much IMO. 
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on December 15, 2011, 12:09:36 PM
Heard today that FSU is only paying him $400 or $450K.  If Auburn wants him, they aint gonna have to pay him that much IMO.

There's no kill quite like overkill.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 15, 2011, 12:11:17 PM
Of course you didn't. It's the same reason why you can't even understand what exactly people are upset about in regards to Malzahn. You see that it's something critical of him, so you plug your ears and loudly and hum a merry little tune.

You're stupid. 
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: GH2001 on December 15, 2011, 12:12:18 PM
Heard today that FSU is only paying him $400 or $450K.  If Auburn wants him, they aint gonna have to pay him that much IMO.

FSU's Athletic Dept is broke compared to Auburn's. I was told this yesterday and went and looked it up. Their FB program profited 2 million last calender year. Auburn's profited almost 39 million.

FSU's Athletic Dept as a whole made NO PROFIT - the lowest in the ACC.

They can't afford to pay Stoops anymore. Much like the situation Texas Tech was in when they were looking for a coach after Leach. IMHO, we can "out Texas" them with $$. We have the upper hand here if we want him bad enough.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: GH2001 on December 15, 2011, 12:13:07 PM
You're stupid.

Oh yeah... oh yeah.....well you're a poo-poo stinkey head.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: djsimp on December 15, 2011, 12:13:22 PM
Heard today that FSU is only paying him $400 or $450K.  If Auburn wants him, they aint gonna have to pay him that much IMO.

They shouldn't but I think FSU was willing to match the original $850k that was offered. Not sure why it would jump to $1.2 mil. They obviously have never watched "The Price is Right".
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: GH2001 on December 15, 2011, 12:16:24 PM
They shouldn't but I think FSU was willing to match the original $850k that was offered. Not sure why it would jump to $1.2 mil. They obviously have never watched "The Price is Right".

They obviously have forgotten that their Ath Dept is strapped for cash.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 15, 2011, 12:17:13 PM
Heard today that FSU is only paying him $400 or $450K.  If Auburn wants him, they aint gonna have to pay him that much IMO.

A mere fan's opinion?

(http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/2/24/Waldorf_and_Statler_2.JPG)
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: GH2001 on December 15, 2011, 12:18:50 PM
A mere fan's opinion?

(http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/2/24/Waldorf_and_Statler_2.JPG)

We're you being facetious? Because I need to know. Quickly.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 15, 2011, 12:21:05 PM
We're you being facetious? Because I need to know. Quickly.

No apostrophe needed. 
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 15, 2011, 12:40:21 PM
A mere fan's opinion?

(http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/2/24/Waldorf_and_Statler_2.JPG)

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSFQ4zPhiHPbQxU3Xrgr9c9la1-rMkzymt6026GnCWWp3z5_0qKqw)
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: RWS on December 15, 2011, 12:48:18 PM
You're stupid.
Perhaps, but the more you run around from thread to thread making sarcastic posts mocking everybody's opinion of Malzahn, the dumber you look. Again, you don't even understand the point anybody is making. You simply see something you perceive as negative about Malzahn, and automatically place cock in mouth. That's great that you're an offensive genius and you know all there is of football, but some of the opinions of these mere mortal fans that have been brought up here are pretty valid.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on December 15, 2011, 12:50:44 PM
It's Chopper 3.0...
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: JR4AU on December 15, 2011, 12:56:32 PM
Perhaps, but the more you run around from thread to thread making sarcastic posts mocking everybody's opinion of Malzahn, the dumber you look. Again, you don't even understand the point anybody is making. You simply see something you perceive as negative about Malzahn, and automatically place cock in mouth. That's great that you're an offensive genius and you know all there is of football, but some of the opinions of these mere mortal fans that have been brought up here are pretty valid.

You can keep trying to make is something personal about Malzahn if that makes you think that invalidates my opinions.  And you can go fuck a goat too. 
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 15, 2011, 01:20:33 PM
that invalidates my opinions. 

(http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/1/19/Statler-waldorf-portal.jpg)
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: AUChizad on December 15, 2011, 01:46:56 PM
No apostrophe needed.
No he was saying that both he and Statler are in fact you being facetious.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: GH2001 on December 15, 2011, 01:50:17 PM
No he was saying that both he and Statler are in fact you being facetious.

Winner. Chizad may mess his fractions up but he knows him some Ingles!
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 15, 2011, 02:11:16 PM
Winner. Chizad may mess his fractions up but he knows him some Ingles!

Yep.  Loves me some Julio Inglesius too.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: AUChizad on December 15, 2011, 03:26:04 PM
Winner. Chizad may mess his fractions up but he knows him some Ingles!
Thanks, Waldorf.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 15, 2011, 03:29:51 PM
Yep.  Loves me some Julio Inglesius too.

Feliz Nacogdoches
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: AUChizad on December 15, 2011, 03:33:26 PM
Feliz Nacogdoches
And Feliz Navidad from the Mayor of San Juan

(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/12/14/1226221/879680-news.jpg)

(Real) (http://www.news.com.au/features/christmas/san-juan-mayor-jorge-santorini-sends-christmas-card-with-taxidemied-animal-death-scene/story-fn77atzo-1226221901592)
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Kaos on December 15, 2011, 03:35:26 PM
Perhaps, but the more you run around from thread to thread making sarcastic posts mocking everybody's opinion of Malzahn, the dumber you look. Again, you don't even understand the point anybody is making. You simply see something you perceive as negative about Malzahn, and automatically place cock in mouth. That's great that you're an offensive genius and you know all there is of football, but some of the opinions of these mere mortal fans that have been brought up here are pretty valid.

RWS visits a farm...

(http://canitbesaturdaynow.com/images/fpics/2258/8_22_09_13.jpg)
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: DnATL on December 15, 2011, 08:26:30 PM
Feliz Nacogdoches
For the Lousiana theme,
Feliz Natchitoches
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on December 15, 2011, 10:27:55 PM
And Feliz Navidad from the Mayor of San Juan

(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/12/14/1226221/879680-news.jpg)

(Real) (http://www.news.com.au/features/christmas/san-juan-mayor-jorge-santorini-sends-christmas-card-with-taxidemied-animal-death-scene/story-fn77atzo-1226221901592)

The jaguar is so going on our Hannukah cards next year.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: djsimp on December 16, 2011, 04:57:59 PM
Blake Anderson, OC at So Miss, seems to be the leading candidate for Auburns new OC.
Title: Re: So...What Now?
Post by: Kaos on December 16, 2011, 05:02:13 PM
Blake Anderson, OC at So Miss, seems to be the leading candidate for Auburns new OC.

What the fuck does that have to do with jaguars, mexicans or fucked goats?