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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Kaos on December 11, 2011, 03:06:32 AM
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Dyer suspended. Rumors abound. Some say it's a one game deal others that suspension would extend into next season.
Not a good situation for him or for the team. Bad juju.
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Dyer suspended. Rumors abound. Some say it's a one game deal others that suspension would extend into next season.
Not a good situation for him or for the team. Bad juju.
It was already tough to get excited about this game.
Now Dyer can't run the wildcat and we have no one to protect our stable of QBs before the pocket collapses. We desperately needed his 12 or so carries to help sell our dashes toward the boundaries. Kristi Malzahn tried to warn us but we wouldn't listen and now hands are writhing with anxiety. And sadly, Trey Smith has no more elligibility.
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It was already tough to get excited about this game.
Now Dyer can't run the wildcat and we have no one to protect our stable of QBs before the pocket collapses. We desperately needed his 12 or so carries to help sell our dashes toward the boundaries. Kristi Malzahn tried to warn us but we wouldn't listen and now hands are writhing with anxiety. And sadly, Trey Smith has no more elligibility.
Yes, but Tre Mason does.
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Yes, but Tre Mason does.
...as does Laddie Phillips.
Whatayousay we switch to the I with Mason as the feature back behind the plowing efforts of Phillips with our youthful but inexperienced offensive line for a little three yards and a heap of bodies?
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Thats the best thing that could happen for this Auburn team.....sarcasm included.
Ima thinking its a grade issue.
Never mind, it seems to be a failed drug test.
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Never mind, it seems to be a failed drug test.
Welcome to 12 hours ago.
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Welcome to 12 hours ago.
I was off smoking pot.
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I'm just catching up to all of this but their seems to be a large contingency that believes he will not be back next year either. Supposedly Dyer has been cutting a lot of classes.
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I'm just catching up to all of this but their seems to be a large contingency that believes he will not be back next year either. Supposedly Dyer has been cutting a lot of classes.
A friend of mine that teaches at Auburn had Dyer for a couple of classes. He told me that his attitude changed after last year, like being MVP of the national championship game went to his head. He also mentioned that he was not going to class and had a fear that he was going to become academically ineligible. Dyer was already talking about his NFL career, like he really did not need to be in school anymore to play ball. There were also rumors about him hitting the weed. I had filed the rumors, about him using pot, away in the back of my mind as hopefully being just college campus gossip. Now that is looking like more than rumor. Sad if Dyer has really let last year turn him into a tool.
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A friend of mine that teaches at Auburn had Dyer for a couple of classes. He told me that his attitude changed after last year, like being MVP of the national championship game went to his head. He also mentioned that he was not going to class and had a fear that he was going to become academically ineligible. Dyer was already talking about his NFL career, like he really did not need to be in school anymore to play ball. There were also rumors about him hitting the weed. I had filed the rumors, about him using pot, away in the back of my mind as hopefully being just college campus gossip. Now that is looking like more than rumor. Sad if Dyer has really let last year turn him into a tool.
Damn man. I really don't know what to say except for FUCK! This is teh suxxors. I'm still holding out hope the kid will suffer through the drug suspension and stick with the team but if he has indeed been skipping classes then none of that even matters. This is a seriously stupid move on Dyers part. We'll have to wait and see what the real deal is once the dust settles but I don't have a good feeling about this.
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...as does Laddie Phillips.
Whatayousay we switch to the I with Mason as the feature back behind the plowing efforts of Phillips with our youthful but inexperienced offensive line for a little three yards and a heap of bodies?
This. Mason is your best back anyway. Kid is a star.
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This. Mason is your best back anyway. Kid is a star.
Oh is he now? Besides his work as a return specialist, what makes you think he's a star?
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Oh is he now? Besides his work as a return specialist, what makes you think he's a star?
Mason had been handed the ball some also and has looked promising. Stats show he has 19 rushes for a net of 97 yards (102 gained minus 5 lost), averaging 5.1 yards a carry. Sounds like a potential star to me that could replace Dyer.
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I really like Dyer, but if he is smoking weed and not going to class then I agree with the decision to bench his ass. If he decides to straighten up and keep working he could be one of if not the best back to come out of Auburn.
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So is this the reason he hasn't been toting the rock as much?
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Mason had been handed the ball some also and has looked promising. Stats show he has 19 rushes for a net of 97 yards (102 gained minus 5 lost), averaging 5.1 yards a carry. Sounds like a potential star to me that could replace Dyer.
Was wanting to see him used somewhat like Watkins and Gus tried it twice v. Clemson but Mason had two easy drops. Dyer didn't get second half carries in that game to help keep our D off the field and we never recovered from that point nor did we upon falling behind in succeeding games. There were a variety of weaknesses exposed that day but none more than stubborness by our OC to fail to employ Dyer as he was intended. There were questions in the Spring as to Dyer's health but today's revelation might be connected in the form of a second offense which of course is only speculation.
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"Attention in the plant, attention in the plant! David Ward, you have a call on EOTTC line 1. David Ward, please proceed to drill press 17 for an extremely important phone call."
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"Attention in the plant, attention in the plant! David Ward, you have a call on EOTTC line 1. David Ward, please proceed to drill press 17 for an extremely important phone call."
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T.J. Yeldon, please pick up the white courtesy
phone bag.
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T.J. Yeldon, please pick up the white courtesy phone bag.
Give me Hamm on 5 hold the Mayo.
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Give me Hamm on 5 hold the Mayo.
The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only.
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The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only.
Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.
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Jay G Tate, who I don't always agree with, predicted this 2 weeks ago. Which would lead me to believe it's more of a grade Issue. I'm thinking it was widely known that MD has been cutting/slacking on classwork and chizik probably couldn't suspend him until it was evident or official when grades were official after finals.
Finals were last week. Just sayin....might not be true but it def makes more sense.
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Didn't JGT tweet, after the Iron Bowl, that he'd be surprised if Dyer was on the team next year? It could be a culmination of the three, grades, marjiuana, attitude...idk. All I know is that a bad apple will spoil the bunch and needs to be removed, unless he's able to change and become humble (maybe him sitting will do the trick). I don't think Dyer has always been a "bad apple", he might've let the National Champion MVP go to his head or something, idk.
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Didn't JGT tweet, after the Iron Bowl, that he'd be surprised if Dyer was on the team next year? It could be a culmination of the three, grades, marjiuana, attitude...idk. All I know is that a bad apple will spoil the bunch and needs to be removed, unless he's able to change and become humble (maybe him sitting will do the trick). I don't think Dyer has always been a "bad apple", he might've let the National Champion MVP go to his head or something, idk.
Whatever the case may be, the best course of action is always rampant speculation, and rumor mongering by those who don't have the first fucking clue.
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I'm thinking it was widely known that MD has been cutting/slacking on classwork and chizik probably couldn't suspend him until it was evident or official when grades were official after finals.
I don't buy that. Chizik and the staff would have known he was cutting class. The Athletics Dept. hires students to sit outside of the classrooms where athletes are registered and check them in on one of those mini laptops for each class. Him missing excessive classes would have been reported to his advisor who would have informed his position coach about the issue. They would have known if he was cutting a lot of classes.
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Whatever the case may be, the best course of action is always rampant speculation, and rumor mongering by those who don't have the first fucking clue.
True that but I do think that the cat is out of the bag on this one. I know that there hasn't been "official" word on this but I'm sure you don't expect Chizik to say anything other than an "undisclosed team rule".
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I don't buy that. Chizik and the staff would have known he was cutting class. The Athletics Dept. hires students to sit outside of the classrooms where athletes are registered and check them in on one of those mini laptops for each class. Him missing excessive classes would have been reported to his advisor who would have informed his position coach about the issue. They would have known if he was cutting a lot of classes.
And maybe not cutting class exactly, moreless speculation the last couple of weeks that maybe he wasn't doing so hot. Chizik couldnt discipline the guy based off speculation because you can always bring a grade up before the semester ends. When grades became official after Finals last week, it was no longer speculation or rumor, and action was taken. My guess (and I could be wrong) is that he is ineligible due to this.
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Why are Mike Dyer and Trent Richardson alike?
Neither of them go to class at Auburn.
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Oh is he now? Besides his work as a return specialist, what makes you think he's a star?
Just a hunch... He has incredible vision and he is electric. He just needs a tiny crease. If he could follow lad Phillips between the tackles, he could get to the second level of the defense, and that's where he could shine. He can make people miss and he is durable. Not as big as dyer, but he doesn't have to be. Maybe Mason isn't as proven as Dyer right now, but he is as good or better. Bright career ahead of him for sure.
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Just a hunch... He has incredible vision and he is electric. He just needs a tiny crease. If he could follow lad Phillips between the tackles, he could get to the second level of the defense, and that's where he could shine. He can make people miss and he is durable. Not as big as dyer, but he doesn't have to be. Maybe Mason isn't as proven as Dyer right now, but he is as good or better. Bright career ahead of him for sure.
Concurrence....
If Mason played with Cam, Mason would be the stud and not Dyer...
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Concurrence....
If Mason played with Cam, Mason would be the stud and not Dyer...
If mason played with Cam, AU probably wouldn't have had so many close games last year. Not just from the offensive standpoint with multiple legitimate homerun threats on the field at the same time, but field position. Field position in the SEC is huge. If mason was returning punts and luckless last year, cam wouldve had even less trouble scoring.
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If mason played with Cam, AU probably wouldn't have had so many close games last year. Not just from the offensive standpoint with multiple legitimate homerun threats on the field at the same time, but field position. Field position in the SEC is huge. If mason was returning punts and luckless last year, cam wouldve had even less trouble scoring.
Auburn should have a first rate offensive line that any third teamer can run behind with success. Michael Dyer is a fucking beast, and OMac is generally the fastest guy on the field. I've been critical of the way Gus has performed as OC this season but I have no doubt that we see our best on the field and if we have someone on the roster that can light it up that guy would be on the field like TZak was. There have just been too many chances to insert Mason in the lineup in place of Reed, Bray or Stallworth. We aren't saving anyone up just for his special teams play alone. Gus tried to use Mason like Watkins in the second quarter of the Clemson game and he dropped two easy passes. And perhaps there are practice habits that keep him out of the plan. I don't know but there is a reason he is not in the rotation as a regular.
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Auburn should have a first rate offensive line that any third teamer can run behind with success. Michael Dyer is a fucking beast, and OMac is generally the fastest guy on the field. I've been critical of the way Gus has performed as OC this season but I have no doubt that we see our best on the field and if we have someone on the roster that can light it up that guy would be on the field like TZak was. There have just been too many chances to insert Mason in the lineup in place of Reed, Bray or Stallworth. We aren't saving anyone up just for his special teams play alone. Gus tried to use Mason like Watkins in the second quarter of the Clemson game and he dropped two easy passes. And perhaps there are practice habits that keep him out of the plan. I don't know but there is a reason he is not in the rotation as a regular.
If only our coaches could tutor and develop players. *sigh*
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If only our coaches could tutor and develop players. *sigh*
Remains to be seen. ie. I'm interested to see what Grimes does with the line. Here's a guy who doesn't raise his voice (sort of a "big ugly" whisperer) who was highly sought after before Auburn landed him. There has to be as much improvement from this unit as any other on the team for Auburn to thrive on offense next season.
And I know you say it mockingly but no one had to develop Cam, Dyer, Blake or Lutz.
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Remains to be seen. ie. I'm interested to see what Grimes does with the line. Here's a guy who doesn't raise his voice (sort of a "big ugly" whisperer) who was highly sought after before Auburn landed him. There has to be as much improvement from this unit as any other on the team for Auburn to thrive on offense next season.
And I know you say it mockingly but no one had to develop Cam, Dyer, Blake or Lutz.
Right, no credit for the good, all the blame for the bad, got it.
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Right, no credit for the good, all the blame for the bad, got it.
Actually I'm poised to heap some praise on this staff in the near future. But for now...
Jay Boulware was outstanding this season as special teams coordinator. Tremendous turnaround.
He fixed problem areas across the board and raised the performance level of his units.
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Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.
It's really the only sensible thing to do, if its done safely. Therapeutically there's no danger involved.
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"We know coach Chizik is a great coach and he sets guidelines and we have to follow them," Frazier said. "If we get off those guidelines we will be disciplined."
^^That's what the fuck I'm talking about^^
If you fuck around and fuck around....you won't be around.
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And I know you say it mockingly but no one had to develop Cam, Dyer, Blake or Lutz.
How do you figure? There was plenty of development time in spring ball, summer workouts, and fall practice before those guys took the field.
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Remains to be seen. ie. I'm interested to see what Grimes does with the line. Here's a guy who doesn't raise his voice (sort of a "big ugly" whisperer) who was highly sought after before Auburn landed him. There has to be as much improvement from this unit as any other on the team for Auburn to thrive on offense next season.
And I know you say it mockingly but no one had to develop Cam, Dyer, Blake or Lutz.
Totally disagree on Blake. It took him a couple of years to develop into a #1 WR.
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How do you figure? There was plenty of development time in spring ball, summer workouts, and fall practice before those guys took the field.
You didn't hear? Malzahn just tossed Cam the playbook then took the 2010 season off. He then forgot how to tutor and develop players.
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You didn't hear? Malzahn just tossed Cam the playbook then took the 2010 season off. He then forgot how to tutor and develop players.
That's what I said. I mean heard.
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You didn't hear? Malzahn just tossed Cam the playbook then took the 2010 season off. He then forgot how to tutor and develop players.
No that's what it LOOKED like.