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By Chadd Cripe
ccripe@idahostatesman.com
© 2011 Idaho Statesman
Boise State football coach Chris Petersen said Monday it’s time to scrap the Bowl Championship Series system that left Nos. 6 Arkansas, 7 Boise State, 8 Kansas State and 9 South Carolina out of the elite bowls in favor of four teams ranked outside the Top 10.
“The whole thing needs to be changed, there’s no question about it,” he said. “… I think (change) is coming, I really do.”
The Broncos (11-1) were left out of a BCS game with a Top 10 ranking for the fourth time in eight years. This time, they were passed over for a Sugar Bowl matchup that features No. 11 Virginia Tech (11-2) and No. 13 Michigan (10-2). Virginia Tech lost by 28 points Saturday and hasn’t beaten anyone currently ranked.
“Everybody is just very tired of the BCS,” Petersen said. “I think that’s the bottom line. Everybody is frustrated. Everybody doesn’t really know what to do anymore. It doesn’t make sense to anybody. I don’t think anybody is happy anywhere.”
Petersen votes in the USA Today Coaches’ Poll and ranked Boise State No. 5, Michigan No. 15 (outside the top 14, which is what the Wolverines needed to be eligible) and TCU No. 18 (outside the top 16, which is what the Horned Frogs needed to get an automatic berth). Here is his ballot.
He admitted he voted in Boise State’s interest.
“I haven’t seen any of the voting,” he said. “I know how I voted and I know what I’m trying to do, which is make the best case for Boise State to get in there, so I probably shouldn’t be a voter.”
Besides, Petersen said, the standings don’t seem to matter for who gets selected. He pointed to the four Top 10 teams left out.
“Why are we even voting if they’re all left out of games like that?” he said. “It doesn’t make any sense. … I don’t know who it makes sense to. I haven’t heard anybody say, ‘This is pretty good.’ Everybody goes, ‘This is really bad.’ ”
Petersen’s suggestion: use a committee like the men’s basketball tournament to rank the teams, trim some of the bowls and implement a “plus-one” system that gives the top four teams a shot at the national title.
“That’s still subjective, but at least it’s closer,” he said.
In the past, Petersen has chosen not to slam the BCS for his team getting snubbed.
“It just seems like each year it’s getting further and further away from anybody understanding what’s going on,” he said.
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Last year, and in years prior, Petersen chose not to attack the system.
“Good karma,” Petersen said when last year's MAACO Bowl matchup with Utah was announced. “You’ve just gotta keep believing. … The last few years, it has worked out well for the Broncos. That’s really the message that we’ve preached to our guys — we take care of what we can control and good things will happen.”
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As for this year's MAACO Bowl Las Vegas matchup with Arizona State, Petersen said:
“We sure enjoyed our time down there last year in Las Vegas. I think our players, our fans, everybody had a real good time. It’s a well-run bowl, a good location, there’s a lot to do. Our players handled it well last time. … It’s a nice matchup.”
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Junior linebacker/fullback Tommy Smith will miss the bowl game with a broken leg, Petersen said. He wasn’t sure if other injured players would return.
Read more: http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2011/12/05/ccripe/boise_state_coach_chris_petersen_rips_bowl_system_everybody_just#ixzz1fhVaOOXA
Normally I'd put in a "You Mad" gif for Boise State, but considering that Boise State is 72-6 since Peterson took over and undefeated in BCS bowl games, he has a point. Why was Boise State left out?
If the BCS was honest about being solely about money, I wouldn't be as critical.
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Meh, fuck him. He voted his own team 5th and voted TCU 18th. Guess who Boisie's only loss was against? You know. Look I understand that TCU lost two games and one to a not so good SMU team, but his butthurt is strong if he is voting the only team that beat his behind 3 loss, Clemson, Michigan St, Oklahoma, UGA and 2 loss Michigan. I think TCU could compete and beat any of those teams.
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Leave it to Bama to be the ones to have such an outrageously inequitable invite to the BCS game that it finally causes people who have been politely biting their tongue about the BCS to come right and say, "YOU KNOW WHAT?!?!? FUCK IT!!! THIS IS STUPID BEYOND FUCKING WORDS!!!"
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Leave it to Bama to be the ones to have such an outrageously inequitable invite to the BCS game that it finally causes people who have been politely biting their tongue about the BCS to come right and say, "YOU KNOW WHAT?!?!? FUCK IT!!! THIS IS STUPID BEYOND FUCKING WORDS!!!"
Well, you fuckers couldn't get it done in 2004. Just say thanks and move along.
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Well, you fuckers couldn't get it done in 2004. Just say thanks and move along.
Us being left out is the reason your in.
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No matter what system you go to, SOMEBODY is going to get left out. And there will be outrage somewhere that they got left out. With that said, the BCS certainly isn't perfect. But no matter what system you have, it will have flaws.
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Meh, fuck him. He voted his own team 5th and voted TCU 18th. Guess who Boisie's only loss was against? You know. Look I understand that TCU lost two games and one to a not so good SMU team, but his butthurt is strong if he is voting the only team that beat his behind 3 loss, Clemson, Michigan St, Oklahoma, UGA and 2 loss Michigan. I think TCU could compete and beat any of those teams.
Tcu had 2 losses though. That counts. Boise only had 1 and it was a fluke really. They need a fg kicker about as bad as bammer.
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No matter what system you go to, SOMEBODY is going to get left out. And there will be outrage somewhere that they got left out. With that said, the BCS certainly isn't perfect. But no matter what system you have, it will have flaws.
Jessica Alba has flaws.
Doesn't mean I'd marry Kathy Griffin over her given the choice.
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Jessica Alba has flaws.
Doesn't mean I'd marry Kathy Griffin over her given the choice.
I have nipples are you going to try to milk me?
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He admitted he voted in Boise State’s interest.
Just another reason this system is completely fucked up. Everyone has their own agenda. I say we set this bitch ablaze using pieces from RWS's trailer.
Burn motherfucker burn!
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Meh, fuck him. He voted his own team 5th and voted TCU 18th. Guess who Boisie's only loss was against? You know. Look I understand that TCU lost two games and one to a not so good SMU team, but his butthurt is strong if he is voting the only team that beat his behind 3 loss, Clemson, Michigan St, Oklahoma, UGA and 2 loss Michigan. I think TCU could compete and beat any of those teams.
That was his point.
He didn't vote based on anything other than his own interests. That's exactly what everyone else did too.
And then in the end, it didn't matter except for the BCSCG, which was highly influenced by personal interests.
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That was his point.
He didn't vote based on anything other than his own interests. That's exactly what everyone else did too.
And then in the end, it didn't matter except for the BCSCG, which was highly influenced by personal interests.
Exactly.
First thing....the very first thing they need to do is cut out all of the bowl tie-ins for the Top-Tier Bowls. Championship Bowl #1 vs #2, next Bowl #3 vs #10, the next #4 vs #9, the next #5 vs #8 and the last top-tier bowl #6 vs #7....the others? They can have their tie-ins, no one really gives a shit about the Poulan Weedeater Bowl or the na-na-na-NAPA Know How Bowl.
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No matter what system you go to, SOMEBODY is going to get left out. And there will be outrage somewhere that they got left out. With that said, the BCS certainly isn't perfect. But no matter what system you have, it will have flaws.
No one would have been left out this year. Alabama already fucking lost to LSU. It doesn't have to fucking be played again...jesus christ how is this so difficult...
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No one would have been left out this year. Alabama already fucking lost to LSU. It doesn't have to fucking be played again...jesus christ how is this so difficult...
Because WE the first game didn't count. They was just trying to get gooder, so when they win they could say they was the best team in the history of the world.
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That was his point.
He didn't vote based on anything other than his own interests. That's exactly what everyone else did too.
And then in the end, it didn't matter except for the BCSCG, which was highly influenced by personal interests.
He did and he didn't. He voted himself high, yes. If TCU beat his team then why not vote them over 3 loss, Clemson, Michigan St, Oklahoma, UGA and 2 loss Michigan? Easy to justify a vote above UGA. By voting TCU who beat them so low was stupid.
"Yup they are my only loss and I am so butthurt I am not going to vote them higher, even though if they were ranked higher it would help my SOS in the computers." He is a fucking tard for voting like that.
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He did and he didn't. He voted himself high, yes. If TCU beat his team then why not vote them over 3 loss, Clemson, Michigan St, Oklahoma, UGA and 2 loss Michigan? Easy to justify a vote above UGA. By voting TCU who beat them so low was stupid.
"Yup they are my only loss and I am so butthurt I am not going to vote them higher, even though if they were ranked higher it would help my SOS in the computers." He is a fucking tard for voting like that.
Actually he is not, the reason he voted them low is because had they been in the top 16 they would have had a shot to get picked for an at large. He was worried they would get picked over Boise because they beat Boise.
Bottom line he had his own agenda. How can this be a fair system if everyone has their own agenda. Its bullshit.
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Actually he is not, the reason he voted them low is because had they been in the top 16 they would have had a shot to get picked for an at large. He was worried they would get picked over Boise because they beat Boise.
Bottom line he had his own agenda. How can this be a fair system if everyone has their own agenda. Its bullshit.
I thought it was the top 14 teams. My bad, then.
I am not saying that he didn't have his own agenda, he did and so do others, that is why the coaches poll should be out. I was saying "fuck him" b/c his team doesn't deserve to be there in my mind. His team can play with anyone once a year (see UGA game), let his team play a LSU, Bama, UGA, USCe, ARK, Clemson, UF and MSU and he wouldn't be in a position to have a gripe imo.
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No one would have been left out this year. Alabama already fucking lost to LSU. It doesn't have to fucking be played again...jesus christ how is this so difficult...
My point is, there will be a cutoff. Whether you're going to take the top 4, 8, 16, or how many ever teams. Some team is going to be on the other side of that cutoff. At some point there will be outrage that whatever team didn't get in should have been ranked higher and included, etc etc. Somebody will always bitch and moan that some team got left out, and should have been included for how many ever reasons.
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My point is, there will be a cutoff. Whether you're going to take the top 4, 8, 16, or how many ever teams. Some team is going to be on the other side of that cutoff. At some point there will be outrage that whatever team didn't get in should have been ranked higher and included, etc etc. Somebody will always bitch and moan that some team got left out, and should have been included for how many ever reasons.
True. And that is why the BCS was made. To differentiate between those teams. It was not made to differentiate between teams that have already fucking played each other...
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My point is, there will be a cutoff. Whether you're going to take the top 4, 8, 16, or how many ever teams. Some team is going to be on the other side of that cutoff. At some point there will be outrage that whatever team didn't get in should have been ranked higher and included, etc etc. Somebody will always bitch and moan that some team got left out, and should have been included for how many ever reasons.
That may be, but # 5 sure as hell does not have the same weighted argument as #3 being left out. After 4 its a toss up anyway. even letting #4 in is just a filler for #1 to beat up on. So having a plus one is the best of both worlds at this time. It will cause the least amount of change and will allow for those that have their own interests in mind.
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True. And that is why the BCS was made. To differentiate between those teams. It was not made to differentiate between teams that have already fucking played each other...
BOOOOOM.
RWS is (intentionally) ignoring the obvious fact that with each additional team added to the playoffs it becomes exponentially more fair.
A 2 team playoff, where on any given year 2-3 teams have legitimate arguments that they belong in the game? Obviously not fair. A 16 team playoff, where roughly 2/3 (am I doing it right?) of teams ranked in the current system get a chance to play for it all, is infinitely more fair.
That ain't happening any time soon, but a +1 game is considerably more fair than what we have now, and so on and so on.
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Been said before. Get everyone in a conference. 8 total. Winner of each conference goes to playoff. Fuck #9 and their wack ass argument.
Sugar, Rose, Fiesta, Orange host the 8 teams. 1 vs. 8 2 vs. 7 3 vs. 6 and 4 vs. 5
2 more weeks of games. Rotate the bowls each year...easy...$$$$$$$...bada bing bada boom
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Been said before. Get everyone in a conference. 8 total. Winner of each conference goes to playoff. Fuck #9 and their wack ass argument.
Sugar, Rose, Fiesta, Orange host the 8 teams. 1 vs. 8 2 vs. 7 3 vs. 6 and 4 vs. 5
2 more weeks of games. Rotate the bowls each year...easy...$$$$$$$...bada bing bada boom
Something like this would have the minimum bitching. You have a hard line drawn, that it has to be a conference champion. Not something subjective like "we're taking the top 8 teams in the rankings". Only flaw to it might be you have the same two teams playing for a NCG two or three years in a row. MAYBE.
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Chris Peterson - feel free to take one of the 40 better jobs you are offered each year.
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Been said before. Get everyone in a conference. 8 total. Winner of each conference goes to playoff. Fuck #9 and their wack ass argument.
Sugar, Rose, Fiesta, Orange host the 8 teams. 1 vs. 8 2 vs. 7 3 vs. 6 and 4 vs. 5
2 more weeks of games. Rotate the bowls each year...easy...$$$$$$$...bada bing bada boom
You would have to cut the regular season back to 10 games. That is lost revenue for schools and less home games for fans. Ain't happening.
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You would have to cut the regular season back to 10 games. That is lost revenue for schools and less home games for fans. Ain't happening.
Por que?
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Por que?
Butter
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Por que?
Barbequed?
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Por que?
Cody?
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Been said before. Get everyone in a conference. 8 total. Winner of each conference goes to playoff. Fuck #9 and their wack ass argument.
Sugar, Rose, Fiesta, Orange host the 8 teams. 1 vs. 8 2 vs. 7 3 vs. 6 and 4 vs. 5
2 more weeks of games. Rotate the bowls each year...easy...$$$$$$$...bada bing bada boom
I think you can do that with the 6 BCS conference Champions, and then take the two highest rated non-BCS conference Champions, so we can stop hearing the bitching about how they don't ever get included, and have your 8 team playoff. Notre Dame? Go fuck yourself and join a conference.
Start the quarter finals the week of Christmas, the semis on New Years, and then the final the week after. Since it takes place during Christmas break, you don't have the argument from the academia about it interfering with school.
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I think you can do that with the 6 BCS conference Champions, and then take the two highest rated non-BCS conference Champions, so we can stop hearing the bitching about how they don't ever get included, and have your 8 team playoff. Notre Dame? Go fuck yourself and join a conference.
Start the quarter finals the week of Christmas, the semis on New Years, and then the final the week after. Since it takes place during Christmas break, you don't have the argument from the academia about it interfering with school.
This is the simple solution. I've been saying it since '04.
If Notre Dame doesn't nut up and join a conference, they can compete with the "fly in the ointment" teams for the "at large" spots.