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Title: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Kaos on December 02, 2011, 11:12:56 AM
But will it be enough?

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http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7302138/rick-reilly-no-rematch-bcs-title-game

Been there done that

Man, these SEC fans are good. The hate email came in before the column was even finished.

Hey Reilly:

I hope you get gangrene on your nose. Your so-called "article" ridiculing an LSU-Alabama rematch for the national championship was stupid. Just because you thought the first one was "boring" does not mean these are not the two best teams. Go back to your spider hole.

--Jimmy Tomjack, Birmingham, Ala.


The first LSU-Alabama game was more boring than Tim Tebow's porn stash. To play another one will be like remaking "J. Edgar" or attending a goiter convention.

But that's not why there should be no Dullapalooza II on Jan. 9 in the Superdome. There shouldn't be one because it makes the BCS honchos liars. This is their Twitter handle: @EveryGameCounts. But how can every game count if it doesn't matter who won the first one?

If you remember, LSU won the first game -- which resembled hippos taking a mud bath -- 9-6 (in OT, no less), in Tuscaloosa. Didn't hurt the Tide any. They're going to get a mulligan if we don't stop it. You have to figure, too, that, if Alabama had won, then LSU would only have one loss and the Tigers would get the redo. This is because, apparently, no conference can really play football in this country except the SEC, which invented the sport in 2006.

Meanwhile, four one-loss teams that didn't get two shots at the title will be playing in the Black Friday Pepper Spray Bowl. Afterward, they'll tweet about it at @EveryGameCountsUnlessAnSECTeamLoses.


Dear Communist:
You have the brains of half a worm. It's true that Alabama didn't qualify for their own conference title game, but they're still the second-best team in the country by a country mile. Go drink a can of Raid.

--Jacktom Jimmy, Tuscaloosa, Ala.


Sorry. Alabama playing in the title game is bonkers. A team that didn't even make its conference title game will be playing in the national title game? It's like Rick Perry withdrawing from the primaries and then going up against President Obama.

But imagine how idiotic this system is through LSU's binoculars. While the Bayou Bengals are beating their brains out against Georgia in the conference title game this Saturday at the Georgia Dome -- aka, the crime scene -- Alabama will be enjoying chicken wings and "Tosh.0" reruns and resting up.

"I won't lie to you," Alabama linebacker Dont'a Hightower told The Associated Press. "It's going to be good to get a week off. A lot of guys are banged up."

Welcome to BCS logic.

Of course, if Alabama wins Walking Dead II, the Tide will be … what? National champions? How? They'll have one loss, same as all the other contenders. They'll have split the home-and-home series with LSU. They won't even have won their SEC division, much less their conference. Yet they could wind up petting the crystal football.

Wouldn't that be special?

Yo, jackwagon:

You rail against a rematch, but who would you rather have play LSU? There's nobody else. Even No. 3 Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy said this week that he wouldn't vote his team No. 2. Go pound tumbleweeds.

--Tommy Jim, Jackson, Ala.


Whom would I rather see? Any team that hasn't already blown its chance.


Because of a flawed BCS system, we may never know if Kellen Moore and Boise State could hang with LSU.
LSU vs. Oklahoma State (if the Cowboys beat Oklahoma on Saturday) would be tasty. And Gundy did say he'd consider his team for No. 2 if it beat OU.

Just to introduce you to OSU. An offense that scores approximately every 11.3 seconds. A strength of schedule ranked 10th, compared with Alabama's at 38th. A team whose only loss was in double overtime to Iowa State the same week an OSU school plane crashed, killing two women's basketball coaches. A school that beat five teams with winning records to Alabama's three. A team with four wins over BCS top 25 teams to Alabama's two. Hello?

Or what about Stanford-LSU? Like the Houndstooths, the Cardinal only have one loss, theirs to an Oregon team faster than 4G. You don't think a Stanford team led by Heisman Trophy shoo-in QB Andrew Luck wouldn't make any SEC defense wonder whether to scream or go bowling?

What about LSU-Virginia Tech? The Hokies' only loss was to Clemson, which they could avenge Saturday in the ACC title game.

Or LSU vs. one-loss Boise State? The Broncos fell to TCU by just one point. You SEC fans remember Boise State, right? It went down south in Week 1 and beat Georgia? Georgia, the team that's one win from claiming your most holy and exalted SEC title?

With all these deserving teams, you still think Alabama should get another chance? You want Kris Humphries and Kim Kardashian to remarry, too?

This SEC bias has to stop. The world of college football doesn't end at the Louisiana border.

The Rematch should make you want to Regurgitate. Two-thirds of the rankings are based on humans. Voters, be fair. We played this one already, and Alabama lost.

What, your TiVo broke?
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: AUChizad on December 02, 2011, 11:25:11 AM
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Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: GH2001 on December 02, 2011, 11:33:00 AM
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Yo, jackwagon

If you are gonna address the article like that in public, then please don't put that you are from AL....PLEASE!
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: djsimp on December 02, 2011, 11:35:47 AM
Funny

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If you remember, LSU won the first game -- which resembled hippos taking a mud bath
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: AUChizad on December 02, 2011, 11:44:38 AM
Only gripe is he is lumping all SEC fans together with what is clearly exclusively Bammer dipshits.

The rest of us don't want a rematch either.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: AUChizad on December 02, 2011, 02:23:07 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/12/2/2605339/alabama-stands-alone-for-sanity-and-reason

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Alabama Stands Alone For Sanity And Reason

by Spencer Hall • Dec 2, 2011 8:55 AM EST

The BCS is one of the most successful events in the history of college football. I know this because I read their website, and if it is on the internet, it must be true. If you don't believe this, you can "check your facts," another thing I saw someone say on the internet to an argument they did not like. The internet is great at rhetorical flourishes like this, along with pictures of dogs bathing and informative arguments about religion.

It's a shame that so many people do not think the BCS works, but there is one place that has not forsaken sanity, reason, and the rule of logic. It's after the jump, but when you see it, you will not be surprised.

(http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/908456/oHEaW_medium.png)

As always, Alabama must take the rest of the country by the nose and lead it to the future. It's not easy taking the unpopular stand, especially when it benefits you in no way whatsoever, but the Yellowhammer State has never been about what's right for them. It's about what's right for America, and if you don't understand that there's a frozen moose parlor called Canada you might wanna look into, buddy.*

*This has nothing to do with Alabama getting a rematch against LSU in the BCS. Hush, you.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: JR4AU on December 02, 2011, 02:33:51 PM
It's not paranoia when everybody else is really against you. 

Being alone in your stance doesn't de facto make you right because you say so. 
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on December 02, 2011, 02:46:40 PM
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Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Kaos on December 03, 2011, 07:03:13 PM
Nobody wants it. 

By a wide margin people would prefer Saints/Packers again in the Superbowl

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=frontpage&pollId=128016
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 07:14:55 PM
LSU winning doesn't help.

Oklahoma State still has a shot to jump them if Virginia Tech loses and Oklahoma State wins convincingly. 

Look at how close Oklahoma State is to Alabama:

Computer Rankings:

Alabama - .950
Oklahoma St - .930

You have to think Oklahoma State jumps Alabama if they win. 

Harris Poll:

Alabama - 2 (2715 points which equals .9586)
Oklahoma St - 5 (2414 points which equals .8397)

Coaches Poll:

Alabama - 2 (1411 points which equals .9566)
Oklahoma St - 5 (1245 points which equals .8441)

This averages out to Alabama - .9551 and Oklahoma St - .8712.

I doubt the coaches poll does a lot of thinking when it votes.  If Virginia Tech loses, Oklahoma State moves up to #4 and gets a few more points.

But the Harris Poll is where the drama can happen.  Teams get more points for having #2 rankings.  So if a few voters really want Oklahoma State to play LSU, they can vote Oklahoma State #2 even if they don't believe it's accurate. 

All Oklahoma State has to do is win and sway a few Harris Poll voters to put them at #2. 

I'm holding out hope........
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2011, 07:31:48 PM
I'm not too terribly worried about OSU. They haven't beaten Oklahoma since 2002. Even if they win, I don't see it being an ass beating. What will be really interesting is if OSU loses, who some of you will propose to play LSU out of the 1 loss teams. Especially seeing as how some have been screaming about how OSU's SOS is better than Bama's, so that's why they should go ahead of Bama. There will be no other 1 loss teams in the top 25 with a SOS better than Bama's if OSU loses.

If OSU wins and the voters decide they should go? Well, so be it.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Kaos on December 03, 2011, 07:45:00 PM
I'm not too terribly worried about OSU. They haven't beaten Oklahoma since 2002. Even if they win, I don't see it being an ass beating. What will be really interesting is if OSU loses, who some of you will propose to play LSU out of the 1 loss teams. Especially seeing as how some have been screaming about how OSU's SOS is better than Bama's, so that's why they should go ahead of Bama. There will be no other 1 loss teams in the top 25 with a SOS better than Bama's if OSU loses.

If OSU wins and the voters decide they should go? Well, so be it.

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Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2011, 08:28:54 PM
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Your vote still for Houston?
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2011, 09:27:32 PM
Might have jinxed the whole damn thing. OSU is about to go up 17-0 on OU. Their stadium is fucking INSANE right now.

I still think OU will come back in the second half and make a game out of it, though. Not sure if they can pull out a win.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Godfather on December 03, 2011, 09:39:58 PM
Might have jinxed the whole damn thing. OSU is about to go up 17-0 on OU. Their stadium is fucking INSANE right now.

I still think OU will come back in the second half and make a game out of it, though. Not sure if they can pull out a win.
Worried yet bro?

Btw my only other team would be Virginia Tech if they win their conference. bammer would go after those two. Imo
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Ogre on December 03, 2011, 09:41:36 PM
 OSU goes up 24-0 with 1:05 left in the first half. Could be interesting if they post a 45-7 type whipping on No. 10 Oklahoma.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2011, 09:48:26 PM
OSU goes up 24-0 with 1:05 left in the first half. Could be interesting if they post a 45-7 type whipping on No. 10 Oklahoma.
If that happens, taking the Crimson glasses off for a minute, I just can't see them putting Bama ahead of OSU. Bama is idle, and OSU is depantsing the #10 team in the country. If they curb stomp OU, that will take away some of the negative from the ISU loss. The question is, how much? I think OU can come back and make a game out of this, but I'm just not so sure they can pull out a win.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 09:58:19 PM
I think the media wants to avoid this -

But how much was the death of the women's basketball coach a factor in the Iowa St loss?  Didn't it happen on the same day as the game? 

Should that be considered when casting a vote? 

And what about that field goal in overtime of that game?  Looked good to me.  Called no good by the refs.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2011, 10:05:13 PM
I think the media wants to avoid this -

But how much was the death of the women's basketball coach a factor in the Iowa St loss?  Didn't it happen on the same day as the game? 

Should that be considered when casting a vote? 

And what about that field goal in overtime of that game?  Looked good to me.  Called no good by the refs.
If Alabama had somebody that could kick a field goal, they could have won. Should that be considered? Alabama's long snapper Carson Tinker lost his girlfriend in the tornado. Should that be considered? Oh, and an Alabama football player died before the season started as well. That INT by LSU in Tuscaloosa? Didn't look like an INT to me.

I see where you're coming from, I just don't see why things like that should be considered. If you're going to make that kind of consideration for one team, you have to do it for everybody.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 10:12:06 PM
You realize your points are entirely different from mine?

A tragedy struck that athletic department the same day as a game?  (maybe the day before)

vs.

Tragedy striking in April? 

Missing a field goal?  Is that a tragedy?
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: JR4AU on December 03, 2011, 10:19:13 PM
OU will be lucky to keep them under 50 it appears.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2011, 10:22:14 PM
You realize your points are entirely different from mine?

A tragedy struck that athletic department the same day as a game?  (maybe the day before)

vs.

Tragedy striking in April? 

Missing a field goal?  Is that a tragedy?
I realize that. I'm just saying, where do we stop with that? If it affects a team, it affects a team. Or are we just narrowing it down to only if something tragic happens on gameday?

I know I'm being silly, but it's silly in the first place, IMO. I just don't see where a voter should say "Well, we will forgive that loss because they had a tragedy." Really, I don't think it matters. OSU is beating the fuck out of OU.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 10:31:18 PM
I'm not saying they should forgive the loss.

It wouldn't matter except we're down to the wire and there's no real way to determine who deserves to be #2.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2011, 10:34:13 PM
Worried yet bro?

Btw my only other team would be Virginia Tech if they win their conference. bammer would go after those two. Imo
Clemson is up by 21 on them. Not looking good for Va Tech or Bama.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2011, 10:36:51 PM
41-3. This shit is beyond over with.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: JR4AU on December 03, 2011, 10:37:30 PM
Ok. State up 41-3 with 5:23 left in third.  Is it possible the make enough noise to sway the voters?
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: JR4AU on December 03, 2011, 10:45:26 PM
Gundy pouring it on.  44-3
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 10:49:09 PM
"Here's a studio update for you guys in ACC country, Oklahoma State pounding Oklahoma up 34-3 after a fumble recovery for a touchdown.  Guys back to you."

"And if that holds up, Oklahoma State will head to the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl," Brent Musburger.

 :sad:
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 10:49:57 PM
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JHokanson Justin Hokanson
RT @DanWetzel: Oklahoma St trying to make a statement, unfortunately most Harris voters asleep, most coaches drunk
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: JR4AU on December 03, 2011, 10:52:11 PM
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JHokanson Justin Hokanson
RT @DanWetzel: Oklahoma St trying to make a statement, unfortunately most Harris voters asleep, most coaches drunk

                                                                   
      :haha:  This guy knows.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2011, 10:53:52 PM
Gundy pouring it on.  44-3
If they're smart, they will hang a hundred on OU. At this point, the score will be whatever the fuck Gundy says it will be.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Token on December 03, 2011, 10:57:32 PM
OSU made a statement tonight.  So much that if the voters feel they played their way into the BCS, I'll be fine with it. 

Which means it will be easier for me to get Sugar Bowl tickets vs Boise State TCU.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: JR4AU on December 03, 2011, 10:58:19 PM
Actually, the message being sent is by what has been a dismal defense.  They're flat shutting down a good offense.  Any voters paying attention will notice that.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 10:59:49 PM
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HARRIS POLL VOTERS
Bobby Aillet   Former Louisiana Tech player
Trev Alberts   Analyst, CBS College Sports Network, Former Nebraska player
Denn Aldridge   Former college assistant, Texas player
Bill Arnsparger   Florida athletic director 1986-92, LSU coach 1984-86
Mike Bartrum   Former Marshall player
Sammy Batten   Reporter, The Fayetteville (N.C.) Observer
Dick Bestwick   Georgia administrator 1986-88, South Carolina athletic director 1988, Virginia coach 1976-81
Joe Biddle   Columnist, The Tennessean
Blaine Bishop   Radio analyst, Nashville, Former Ball State player
Jeff Blake   Former East Carolina player
Gil Brandt   NFL.com analyst, Former Cowboys director of player personnel
Earle Bruce   Iowa State coach 1973-78, Ohio State coach 1979-78, Colorado State coach 1989-92
Brenston Buckner   Former Clemson player
Chris Carlin   Radio host, WFAN New York
Bob Casciola   National Football Foundation/College Football Hall of Fame president 1995-2005
Charlie Cagnaro   UNLV athletic director 1995-2001, Memphis athletic director 1982-95
Michael Cleary   Executive director, National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics
Tony Collins   Former East Carolina player
Jim Copeland   Utah athletic director 1985-87, Virginia athletic director 1987-1995, SMU athletic director 1995-2006
Gene Corrigan   Notre Dame athletic director 1981-87, Virginia athletic director 1971-80, ACC commissioner 1987-97
Don Criqui   Television broadcaster, CBS
Fran Curci   Miami coach 1971-72, Kentucky coach 1973-81
Lori Dann   Reporter, Fort Worth Star-Telegram
Pete Dawkins   1958 Heisman winner at Army, former CEO of Primerica Financial Services
Al Del Greco   Radio broadcaster, WJOX Birmingham, Ala., Former Auburn player
Mark Dienhart   Senior Vice President, University of St. Thomas, Minnesota athletic drector 1995-2000
Brian Dohn   Reporter, Los Angeles Daily News
Boots Donnelly   Middle Tennessee State coach 1979-2000, MTSU athletic director 2001-05
John Dorsey   Green Bay Packers director of college scouting, Connecticut player 1980-83
Kevin Duhe   Former Louisiana-Monroe player
Bob Dunlevy   Former West Virginia player
Chuck Ealey   Former Toledo player
Boomer Esiason   NFL analyst, CBS Sports, Former Maryland player
Rondo Fehlberg   BYU athletic director 1995-99
Bob Fredrick   Kansas athletic director 1987-2001
Robert Gagliardi   Reporter, Wyoming Tribune-Eagle
Fred Goldsmith   Current Lenoir-Rhyne head coach, Rice coach 1989-93, Duke coach 1993-98
Mike Grace   Founder of College Football Radio network
Bob Grim   Radio Analyst, Oregon State radio network, Former Oregon State player
Lee Grosscup   Former Utah player
Chad Hennings   Former Air Force player
Tommy Hicks   Columnist, Mobile (Ala.) Press-Register
Clarkston Hines   Former Duke player
David Housel   Auburn athletic director 1990-2004
J.J. Joe   Radio analyst, Baylor; Former Baylor quarterback
Charley Scott   New Mexico State faculty member, Former New Mexico State player
Scott Johnson   Fresno State athletic director 2001-05
Robert Jones   Former East Carolina player
Joe Kearney   Washington athletic director 1969-76, Michigan State 1976-80, Arizona State athletic director 1980, WAC Commisoner 1980-84
Larry Keech   Former sports writer, Greensboro (NC) News & Record
Blair Kerkhoff   Reporter, The Kansas City Star
Mike Kern   Reporter, The Philadelphia Daily News
Roy Kramer   SEC Commissioner, 1990-2002
Jesse Kurtz   Reporter, KKTV Colorado Springs
Jim Lachey   Radio analyst, Ohio State; Former Ohio State player
George Lapides   Radio host, AM560 Memphis
David Lawrence   Radio analyst, Kansas
Bobby Leach   Former SMU player
James Lessig   Bowling Green athletic director 1978-82, MAC Commisioner 1982-90, Sun Belt Commissioner 1990-91
Mike Lucas   Reporter, Capital Times of Madison, Wis.
Mike Lude   Auburn athletic director 1992-93, Washington athletic director 1975-91
Tom Luicci   Reporter, Newark Star Ledger
Cindy Luis   Reporter, Honolulu Star-Bulletin
John Mallory   Former West Virginia player
Jim Mandich   Radio host, AM560 in Miami, former Michigan player
Loren Matthews   Former ABCSports Senior Vice President
Joe McConnell   Radio broadcaster, Purdue
Mike McGee   Duke coach 1971-78, Cincinnati athletic director 1979-84, USC athletic director 1984-93
Lance McIlhenny   Fomer SMU player
Bill McLellan   Clemson athletic director 1971-85, Southern Miss athletic director 1985-99
Ray Melick   Columnist, The Birmingham (Ala.) News
John Minko   Radio broadcaster, WFAN New York
Cedric Minter   Former Boise State player
Darrell Moody   Reporter, Nevada Appeal in Reno
Jim Morse   Former Notre Dame player
Craig Morton   Former Cal player
Jack Moss   Former Sports Editor, Kalamazoo (Mich.) Gazette
Tim Neverett   Radio host, UNLV/Mountain West
Denny O'Brien   Reporter on East Carolina for Bonesville.net
David Paschall   Reporter, Chattanooga (Tenn.) Free-Press
George Perles   Michigan State trustee, Michigan State coach 1983-94; Founder Motor City Bowl
Allen Pinkett   Radio analyst, Notre Dame, Former Notre Dame player
Gene Ponti   Radio host, KMLB in Monroe, La.
Steve Preece   Former Oregon State player
Travis Prentice   Former Miami (Ohio) player
Pat Quinn   Former Oklahoma State sports information director
Pat Richter   Wisconsin athletic director 1989-2004
Earle Robinson   Radio Host, AM870 East Lansing, Mich.
Kenny Roda   Radio host WKNR 850 in Cleveland
Jerry Sandusky   Penn State assistant coach 1969-99
Harvey Schiller   CEO of GlobalOptions Group, SEC Commissioner 1986-90, Former VP at TBS, former CEO of YankeeNets
Dr. Terry Schmidt   Former Ball State player
Paul Schneider   Radio host, 670 KBOI in Boise
Jackie Sherrill   Washington State coach 1976, Pittsburgh coach 1977-81, Texas A&M coach 1982-88, Mississippi State coach 1991-2003
Corky Simpson   Former columnist, The Tucson (Ariz.) Citizen
Irwin Smallwood   Former sports writer, Greensboro (NC) News & Record
Joe Smigiel   Former Arizona player
Ron Stephenson   Big Sky Conference Commissioner 1981-95
Budd Thalman   Former Penn State sports information director
Dick Tharp   Colorado athletic director 1995-2004
Thurman Thomas   Former Oklahoma State player
Ron Thulin   Radio host, Oklahoma City; TV announcer (Vs. network)
John Toner   Connecticut athletic director 1969-87
Charlie Trotman   Former Auburn player
Max Urick   Iowa State athletic director 1983-93, Kansas State athletic director 1993-2001
Roger Valdisierri   Former Notre Dame sports information director
Tommy Vardell   Former Stanford player
Jim Vruggink   Former Purdue sports information director
Bob Wagner   Hawaii coach 1988-95
Jim Walden   Iowa State coach 1987-94, Washington State coach 1978-86
Jack White   Former Louisiana-Lafayette assistant coach, director PGA Tour's ShotLink
Frank Windegger   TCU athletic director 1975-98
George Wine   Former Iowa sports information director
Hugh Yoshida   Hawaii athletic director 1992-2002

Harris Poll voters I think could vote against Alabama and for Oklahoma State. 
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 11:00:30 PM
Good contribution, Cake Boy:

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CecilHurt Cecil Hurt
Alabama was .9551 in the rankings, OK State was .8712. That's a substantial gap.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 11:02:10 PM
Herp eh derp derp herp:

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AndrewJBone Andrew Bone
Prattville would have given Ok State a more competitive game tonight than Oklahoma.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Token on December 03, 2011, 11:02:26 PM
Harris Poll voters I think could vote against Alabama and for Oklahoma State.

I honestly wouldn't have a problem with those who jump OSU to #2.  BUT, if they vote Bama below #3 just to help offset anyone who doesn't, I'll be pissed.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: JR4AU on December 03, 2011, 11:03:00 PM
THS, unfortunately, from what I hear from Del Greco, he'd vote for bammer.   I think Housel would do "the right thing". 
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 11:05:37 PM
I forgot Del Greco is a Jay Barker puppet. 
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: GH2001 on December 03, 2011, 11:05:52 PM
Actually, the message being sent is by what has been a dismal defense.  They're flat shutting down a good offense.  Any voters paying attention will notice that.

I hope so.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 11:06:18 PM
I'm hardheaded:

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WhitlockJason Jason Whitlock
No. Alabama is clear No. 2 RT @TheRealGrizz35: come on man you have to put OK State at 2 after tonight!
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 11:08:57 PM
"Boy, I, why I thought, well golly gee, I thought there was no way."

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YahooForde Pat Forde
OK State is now invited to try and beat OU by 40. Otherwise, the deal is done and the rematch is on.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 11:11:11 PM
Can we call and wake those assholes up and explain to them that Auburn fans don't like Alabama and want them to go to the Sugar Bowl?

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BradEdwards_BCS Brad Edwards
Pokes will need approximately 45 of 174 voters to rank them No. 2. Most anti-rematch sentiment will be in Harris poll.

Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: JR4AU on December 03, 2011, 11:12:17 PM
Ok. State just got another pick.  They need to get a TD.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 11:14:29 PM
Who's the real Honey Badger?

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BFeldmanCBS Bruce Feldman
With 4 more TOs forced tonight, OK State has now forced 41 this yr, most since 2007 when Cincy & USF had 42 in 13 games.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: JR4AU on December 03, 2011, 11:14:32 PM
Fuck!
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 11:22:05 PM
Are the announcers seriously blowing Alabama's nuts right now and talking about Oklahoma State making a statement about future championships? 

Fuck ESPN. 
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Token on December 03, 2011, 11:25:07 PM
Are the announcers seriously blowing Alabama's nuts right now and talking about Oklahoma State making a statement about future championships? 

Fuck ESPN.

I see it differently.  I see everyone saying, without a doubt, that Alabama is in.  They are saying it in a manner to provoke anger from everyone...especially the voters. 
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: JR4AU on December 03, 2011, 11:29:55 PM
I see it differently.  I see everyone saying, without a doubt, that Alabama is in.  They are saying it in a manner to provoke anger from everyone...especially the voters.

You see it wrong.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Token on December 03, 2011, 11:31:40 PM
Ok, I can appreciate Gundy being up on his team.  I expect him to say his team deserves it.  Honestly, I'm not sure they don't.  But to predict that his team could score 36 or 39 on LSU's defense?  Pffft.  Pfffffffffffffft.   PFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTT.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2011, 11:37:20 PM
From the flats:

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bradsmelley Brad Smelley
I have no time for Mike Gundy. Dude just claimed Ok state would score 35 points on LSU..pass me what your drankin coach
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2011, 11:43:31 PM
From the flats:
Can't really argue too much with that statement, though. Nobody has scored more than 27 on them this season, and that was the first game against Oregon.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2011, 01:42:03 AM
National sentiment overwhelmingly against it.  More than 70% oppose.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=frontpage&pollId=128419

Who's paying attention?
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Jumbo on December 04, 2011, 03:38:02 AM
Hmmmmmm.
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BCSKnowHow BCSKnowHow.com
Projected #BCS rankings: 1. LSU 2. Oklahoma State. That's all you'll need. Analysis, more on the way: bit.ly/smxCow
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slmandel Stewart Mandel
My column from Bedlam: Oklahoma State earned the right to face LSU. Make it happen, voters. bit.ly/ryHaYp
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Jimmy_Burch Jimmy Burch
OSU officials have sent blast email to poll voters, stating the Cowboys' case to be No. 2 in the BCS and play LSU for ntl title
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RPendergraft Rick Pendergraft
#okstate fans Bob Stoops said he'll vote LSU #1 and OSU #2 in tomorrow coaches poll. #bcs #sooners
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Jumbo on December 04, 2011, 03:39:44 AM
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BCSGuru BCS Guru
Coaches will have Bama at No. 2 as will Harris voters. BUT ... I'm projecting OSU to be at No. 2 in the BCS standings.
Bama Guy???
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BFeldmanCBS Bruce Feldman
Gonna turn my Heisman ballot in. It's gonna have a Baylor player in the #1 spot. Not sure I'd ever imagined that happening.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: RWS on December 04, 2011, 04:00:45 AM
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BCSGuru BCS Guru
Coaches will have Bama at No. 2 as will Harris voters. BUT ... I'm projecting OSU to be at No. 2 in the BCS standings.
Not sure how OSU could be at #2 in the standings if the polls go with Bama. Polls have more weight than the computers.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 04, 2011, 08:49:28 AM
Not sure how OSU could be at #2 in the standings if the polls go with Bama. Polls have more weight than the computers.

Because it's about points.

I can't remember exactly how it works, but teams get extra points for having #2 rankings.

And it's the point combination of the three polls that gives a team its BCS ranking.

So for example, it doesn't matter if a team wins the Harris and Coaches poll ranking but loses the computer poll ranking.  If enough Harris/Coaches voters voted a team #1 and #2, that could help them jump teams that technically have won more parts of the BCS. Those #1 and #2 votes give them extra points. 

I literally rolled out of bed three minutes ago, so I wish I could explain this better.  Although, knowing the lunacy of the BCS, I don't think I could accurately explain how it works even if it was noon. 
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 04, 2011, 09:07:00 AM
This is why the BCS and college football as a whole needs a complete overhaul:

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YahooForde Pat Forde
OK State is now invited to try and beat OU by 40. Otherwise, the deal is done and the rematch is on.

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YahooForde Pat Forde
Said Ok State needed to beat OU by 40 to have a case -- then I watched the game and saw how bad this OU team has become. Nevermind.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 04, 2011, 09:09:37 AM
Mark May said that the reason Alabama should get a rematch against LSU is Alabama played more like LSU on November 5th and LSU played more like Alabama November 5th.

Meaning LSU caught Alabama on a bad day and Alabama caught LSU on a really good day. 

I guess he's assuming if they play again, things will be "normal" and Alabama will win.

ESPN sucks.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 04, 2011, 09:11:13 AM
Brent Musburger said that an Alabama-LSU rematch is a lot like the Giants-Patriots rematch in the Super Bowl.  Patriots were undefeated and a sure-fire victor over the Giants.  But then, the Giants shocked the world. 

Then he compared the rematch to Rocky-Apollo from a fucking fictional movie. 

ESPN enjoys splooge from elephants. 
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: JR4AU on December 04, 2011, 09:53:01 AM
From the flats:

Hey, Saban was on TV stumping today, which, by the way, is SUPPOSED to be completely out of character for him.  Fucking ESPN gave him a gig at the SECCG where LSU was playing.  He had no business there when he's going to be facing LSU in 6 weeks for all the marbles.  Why can't Gundy?  And he's hitting the right button.  SEC fans may love smash mouth 9-6 games, but the rest of the country doesn't.  Truth be told, even most SEC fans enjoy a shootout.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: jmar on December 04, 2011, 11:06:39 AM
Hey, Saban was on TV stumping today, which, by the way, is SUPPOSED to be completely out of character for him.  Fucking ESPN gave him a gig at the SECCG where LSU was playing.  He had no business there when he's going to be facing LSU in 6 weeks for all the marbles.  Why can't Gundy?  And he's hitting the right button.  SEC fans may love smash mouth 9-6 games, but the rest of the country doesn't.  Truth be told, even most SEC fans enjoy a shootout.
Can't wait for our kiddies to get some live ammo.
I know...that was uncalled for.

Maybe Gundy (bridesmaid) gets to do the show in New Orleans since Saban will be preoccupied. That would be interesting. Maybe Paul Rhoades gets an invite too.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: RWS on December 04, 2011, 08:48:38 PM
I think the media wants to avoid this -

But how much was the death of the women's basketball coach a factor in the Iowa St loss?  Didn't it happen on the same day as the game? 

Should that be considered when casting a vote? 
Something else I didn't really think about with this. OSU was up 24-7 in the 3rd quarter. At exactly what point did this sadness and grief kick in?
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: ssgaufan on December 04, 2011, 09:03:13 PM
Something else I didn't really think about with this. OSU was up 24-7 in the 3rd quarter. At exactly what point did this sadness and grief kick in?

In the 2nd overtime.
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 04, 2011, 09:40:04 PM
Something else I didn't really think about with this. OSU was up 24-7 in the 3rd quarter. At exactly what point did this sadness and grief kick in?

That was the point where they thought, "I guess we can make the funeral arrangements now." 
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Kaos on December 05, 2011, 09:02:49 AM
Something else I didn't really think about with this. OSU was up 24-7 in the 3rd quarter. At exactly what point did this sadness and grief kick in?

Have another pack of Newports, Shane, you insensitive fucking goat fucker. 
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: Kaos on December 05, 2011, 09:12:46 AM
At least the national hate grows:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=frontpage&pollId=128441
Title: Re: The momentum begins to swing...
Post by: AUChizad on December 05, 2011, 09:35:14 AM
At least the national hate grows:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=frontpage&pollId=128441
I'm sick of seeing these things have Alabama so strong in favor of the Gumps. Alabama residents, fucking vote in these things.