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Title: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: Tiger Wench on November 10, 2011, 11:30:38 PM
Not on sidelines for Saturday's game due to serious threats against his personal safety.

And Sandusky is actually out on $100K bail.  Hope he has found a serious rock to hide under. 
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: Godfather on November 10, 2011, 11:36:48 PM
My bet is he kills himself before this gets to trial.
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: Token on November 10, 2011, 11:37:33 PM
The problem is, their lives are in serious danger for the wrong reasons.
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: RWS on November 10, 2011, 11:37:57 PM
Not on sidelines for Saturday's game due to serious threats against his personal safety.

And Sandusky is actually out on $100K bail.  Hope he has found a serious rock to hide under.
Honestly, this GA should be fired as well. Even though he probably put in more effort to stop this than anybody else involved, anything short of going to the police when the administration did not is unacceptable IMO. In a way, it's worse than Joe Pa not following through, because this guy actually saw it happen.
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: Token on November 10, 2011, 11:40:54 PM
My bet is he kills himself before this gets to trial.

If he does, I hope it's horrendous.  12 gauge in the mouth horrendous. 
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: Tiger Wench on November 10, 2011, 11:44:29 PM
Honestly, this GA should be fired as well. Even though he probably put in more effort to stop this than anybody else involved, anything short of going to the police when the administration did not is unacceptable IMO. In a way, it's worse than Joe Pa not following through, because this guy actually saw it happen.

Bullshit.  Put forth effort?  He GOT SUPOENAED!!!  That is the only reason he told his story after nearly ten years.  HE LEFT A KID TO BE RAPED.  And he was not some impressionable young person in awe of some authority figure.  HE WAS 28 YEARS OLD WHEN HE SAW A CHILD BEING RAPED.  AND HE WALKED AWAY.

He fails as a human being.  Completely and totally. 
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: RWS on November 10, 2011, 11:46:24 PM
Bullshit.  Put forth effort?  He GOT SUPOENAED!!!  That is the only reason he told his story after nearly ten years.  HE LEFT A KID TO BE RAPED.  And he was not some impressionable young person in awe of some authority figure.  HE WAS 28 YEARS OLD WHEN HE SAW A CHILD BEING RAPED.  AND HE WALKED AWAY.

He fails as a human being.  Completely and totally.
I'm talking about as far as telling Joe Pa, meeting with the AD, etc etc. Other than that, like you said, fuck this guy. He's no better than Joe Pa, and probably worse since he actually saw it.
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: The Prowler on November 11, 2011, 05:54:18 AM
Bullshit.  Put forth effort?  He GOT SUPOENAED!!!  That is the only reason he told his story after nearly ten years.  HE LEFT A KID TO BE RAPED.  And he was not some impressionable young person in awe of some authority figure.  HE WAS 28 YEARS OLD WHEN HE SAW A CHILD BEING RAPED.  AND HE WALKED AWAY.

He fails as a human being.  Completely and totally.
Exactly.
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: Kaos on November 11, 2011, 06:35:38 AM
Honestly, this GA should be fired as well. Even though he probably put in more effort to stop this than anybody else involved, anything short of going to the police when the administration did not is unacceptable IMO. In a way, it's worse than Joe Pa not following through, because this guy actually saw it happen.

Finally agree on something, goat fucker. 

It's not "worse in a way"  it's worse PERIOD.  Why?  Because we don't know what he told Paterno.  Everybody wants to assume he did, but that's not in evidence at all.

Given that Sandusky was his boss, given that he didn't call the cops or punch Sandusky out, given that he went to his dad and asked advice on what to do, it's highly probable that he kept the details to himself and/or minimized it when he did later make the report. 

Should have been fired with or before Paterno. 
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: Kaos on November 11, 2011, 06:37:36 AM
If he does, I hope it's horrendous.  12 gauge in the mouth horrendous.

I don't want that. 

I don't want it because I want to know who knew, what they knew and when they knew. 

But if he does off himself I'd rather he do it slowly.  Razor blade slow.
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: Kaos on November 11, 2011, 06:38:55 AM
Bullshit.  Put forth effort?  He GOT SUPOENAED!!!  That is the only reason he told his story after nearly ten years.  HE LEFT A KID TO BE RAPED.  And he was not some impressionable young person in awe of some authority figure.  HE WAS 28 YEARS OLD WHEN HE SAW A CHILD BEING RAPED.  AND HE WALKED AWAY.

He fails as a human being.  Completely and totally.

I get behind this, too.  1000%. 

Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: Saniflush on November 11, 2011, 07:33:38 AM
But if he does off himself I'd rather he do it slowly.  Razor blade slow.

Yes.  Let's teach him that it's "across the street" rather than "up the road".
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: AUJarhead on November 11, 2011, 08:07:37 AM
Given that Sandusky was his boss

Actually, Sandusky retired in 98/99.  I'm sure, however, McQ would have felt intimidated by him.
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: JR4AU on November 11, 2011, 09:09:27 AM
Not on sidelines for Saturday's game due to serious threats against his personal safety.

And Sandusky is actually out on $100K bail.  Hope he has found a serious rock to hide under.

The ones that want to, will blame McQueary for ever reporting this in the first place.  Sad.
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: CCTAU on November 11, 2011, 09:35:56 AM
The ones that want to, will blame McQueary for ever reporting this in the first place.  Sad.

How do you see something like this happen and not go blind batshit crazy and kill someone?

I'm sure the decision not to beat the hell out of Sandusky will haunt this guy forever.
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: Tiger Wench on November 11, 2011, 12:41:32 PM
Part of an article.  The underlined part is what I don't get.

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Penn State's Board of Trustees made the correct decision in firing Paterno and Spanier for their roles in this case. But if Paterno and Spanier had to go, so do McQueary and Curley. They all share in the blame for failing to contact the police to start an investigation that might have caught Sandusky before, as several young people alleged to the grand jury, he struck again. Trustees should not allow either man to remain on the books another day.

McQueary's situation is the most curious. The next paragraph comes directly from the grand jury presentment, which was prepared using McQueary's under-oath testimony. Be warned; the account is graphic.

"As the graduate assistant entered the locker doors, he was surprised to find the lights and showers on. He then heard, rhythmic, slapping sounds. He believed the sounds to be those of sexual activity. As the graduate assistant put his sneakers into his locker, he looked into the shower. He saw a naked boy, Victim 2, whose age he estimated to be 10 years old, with his hands up against the wall, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant was shocked but noticed that Victim 2 and Sandusky saw him. The graduate assistant left immediately, distraught."

In other words, McQueary told the grand jury he saw a boy being raped, and he ran away. McQueary told the grand jury that he next told his father, who told McQueary to report what he saw to Paterno. McQueary made his report at Paterno's home.

What happened next has been parsed endlessly this week. Bottom line, nothing happened. No one followed up. No one tried to identify the boy.

McQueary's handling of the situation has prompted outrage, and with good reason. He was a graduate assistant, a low man on Penn State's totem pole, but he was 28 years old. What kind of human being would watch a boy being raped and do nothing to stop it? A scared one, sure. Sandusky was a pillar of the Penn State football community. But human decency should trump loyalty to a football program or to a coach. And how could McQueary stand the sight of Sandusky, a frequent visitor to the football complex for years who was spotted there as recently as last week?

There are a few possible explanations for why McQueary remains employed. As the Penn State football employee who was the most forthcoming to the grand jury, he could present a different kind of PR nightmare for the university if fired. If McQueary got canned and decided to spill his guts to the media, who knows what revelations might pour forth? An already nasty situation could get even nastier.

The other possibility is that McQueary's job is protected by Pennsylvania's Whistleblower Law, which prohibits public employees from having their jobs threatened following a "good-faith report" of wrongdoing. McQueary did go to his supervisor, after all. Asked if the Whistleblower Law was the reason for McQueary's continued employment, Penn State spokesman Jeff Nelson said "I honestly can't answer that question."


Meanwhile, Curley's continued employment can only be explained by a fear of a lawsuit from a man who might say he was fired for being accused of a crime. It was Curley who told the grand jury McQueary told him that he saw Sandusky "horsing around" with the boy. According to the presentment, McQueary told the grand jury that he told Curley he had seen what he believed to be anal sex. The grand jury believed McQueary.

McQueary has remained silent. His father, citing the ongoing investigation, has stayed quiet. A lot of people want to know how McQueary could simply leave the locker room. That includes the mother of one of Sandusky's alleged victims. "I don't even have words to talk about the betrayal that I feel," the mother of Victim Six told the Harrisburg Patriot-News this week. "[McQueary] was a grown man, and he saw a boy being sodomized ... He ran and called his daddy?"



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/11/10/penn-state-mike-mcqueary/index.html#ixzz1dQ4sQcYC
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: noxin on November 11, 2011, 02:36:37 PM
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The other possibility is that McQueary's job is protected by Pennsylvania's Whistleblower Law, which prohibits public employees from having their jobs threatened following a "good-faith report" of wrongdoing.

The Whistleblower Law trumps the Pre-pubescent Boy Blower Law
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on November 11, 2011, 02:49:11 PM
The Whistleblower Law trumps the Pre-pubescent Boy Blower Law

They don't call him the best 22 post member for nothing folks...
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: AUChizad on November 11, 2011, 02:52:57 PM
The Whistleblower Law trumps the Pre-pubescent Boy Blower Law
Pale Rider take note: THIS is how you do low post counts.
Title: Re: PSU's former GA/current wide receivers coach MCQuery...
Post by: JR4AU on November 11, 2011, 02:53:24 PM
How do you see something like this happen and not go blind batshit crazy and kill someone?

I'm sure the decision not to beat the hell out of Sandusky will haunt this guy forever.

His reaction is beyond me too.  Can't understand it.