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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: AUChizad on October 24, 2011, 02:29:49 PM
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http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/10/alabama_injuries_cyrus_kouandj.html
First Brent Calloway gets busted for smokin dope, then Cyrus Kouandjio has to have season-ending knee surgery.
All leading up to the biggest game college football has ever seen in its history.
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All leading up to the biggest game college football has ever seen in its history.
of the universe...
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Also senior starting linebacker Alex Watkins broke his arm.
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Holy shit...whatever will happen to the Super Bowl v.1*?
*v.2 is reserved for the rematch in January.
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Welp...that's two more on the "out processed" watch list. Brent Calloway & Arie Kouandjio is higher up that list than Cyrus.
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Mother faker we suck again!
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Welp...that's two more on the "out processed" watch list.
Watkins is a senior, dipshit. He's gone at the end of this season regardless of injury.
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Also senior starting linebacker Alex Watkins broke his arm.
Watkins isn't a starter. Jerrell Harris is the starting SAM LB.
Losing Cyrus will hurt more long term than short.
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Watkins isn't a starter. Jerrell Harris is the starting SAM LB.
Does he play in the 'dell' formation?
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Does he play in the 'dell' formation?
Correct, sailor.
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Watkins is a senior, dipshit. He's gone at the end of this season regardless of injury.
Seriously? Stupid fuckin' retard, I wasn't talking about Alex Watkins (he's not a scholarship player...note I said player). Calloway & Cyrus makes two. Reading is apparently hard for inbreds.
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Seriously? Stupid fuckin' retard, I wasn't talking about Alex Watkins (he's not a scholarship player...note I said player). Calloway & Cyrus makes two. Reading is apparently hard for inbreds.
Well, technically speaking, per Kaos - they fuck goats, not relatives.
Or maybe both????
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How come the dope smoking Calloway arrest has not earned a single mention anywhere?
Had it been an Auburn signee, Joe Schad would still be on campus dodging rocks and bottles.
How did "Mr. Discipline" handle it? Second chance? Ice cream? Mentoring? Off the team? Pass me one?
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How come the dope smoking Calloway arrest has not earned a single mention anywhere?
Had it been an Auburn signee, Joe Schad would still be on campus dodging rocks and bottles.
How did "Mr. Discipline" handle it? Second chance? Ice cream? Mentoring? Off the team? Pass me one?
He was doing an on camera interview for ESPN before the UGA game last year near where the players enter the Stadium during Tiger Walk on that hill going up to where the student gates are. The Cam stuff had just came out. A mob was starting to gather around the bastard and his camera man. I walked up on it and as soon as I saw who it was, I started yelling shit about his mom being a whore and what not. All that frustration I had from the last couple of days got let out on his ass. There were several state troopers there basically shielding Schad from getting attacked. He just stood there with a smug ass look on his face the whole time. The only thing better would have been if Thayer had been with him.
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How come the dope smoking Calloway arrest has not earned a single mention anywhere?
Had it been an Auburn signee, Joe Schad would still be on campus dodging rocks and bottles.
How did "Mr. Discipline" handle it? Second chance? Ice cream? Mentoring? Off the team? Pass me one?
Dragging bammer through the mud in the middle of a championship run isn't fun for Finebaum, nor would it be safe.
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Dragging bammer through the mud in the middle of a championship run isn't fun for Finebaum, nor would it be safe.
Naaa...you never try to drag somebody through the mud when it looks like they have a legit shot at the MNC. That's just not done. There's an unwritten rule in the sports media about that. I'm sure of it.
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How come the dope smoking Calloway arrest has not earned a single mention anywhere?
Had it been an Auburn signee, Joe Schad would still be on campus dodging rocks and bottles.
How did "Mr. Discipline" handle it? Second chance? Ice cream? Mentoring? Off the team? Pass me one?
Call in.
Tell the screener that you want to praise Paul for going to see Robert in Iowa.
Then when you get on, say, "Hey Paul. I hear Calloway got in trouble. Could you speak on that for a second? I'll hang up and listen."
Of course, he'll just say, "You know I heard something. Does Calloway play for Alabama? Isn't he just a recruit? Oh he's a freshman? Redshirting? Are you sure? Alex, are we sure about that? What about you, Dallas? You heard of him? No? I can't really figure out what's going on with this story. Let's just move on."
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Call in.
Tell the screener that you want to praise Paul for going to see Robert in Iowa.
Then when you get on, say, "Hey Paul. I hear Calloway got in trouble. Could you speak on that for a second? I'll hang up and listen."
Of course, he'll just say, "You know I heard something. Does Calloway play for Alabama? Isn't he just a recruit? Oh he's a freshman? Redshirting? Are you sure? Alex, are we sure about that? What about you, Dallas? You heard of him? No? I can't really figure out what's going on with this story. Let's just move on."
Or...
"I don't really understand any of it...it's a lot of nothing, and it's confusing, not sure what it means."
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Call in.
Tell the screener that you want to praise Paul for going to see Robert in Iowa.
Then when you get on, say, "Hey Paul. I hear Calloway got in trouble. Could you speak on that for a second? I'll hang up and listen."
Of course, he'll just say, "You know I heard something. Does Calloway play for Alabama? Isn't he just a recruit? Oh he's a freshman? Redshirting? Are you sure? Alex, are we sure about that? What about you, Dallas? You heard of him? No? I can't really figure out what's going on with this story. Let's just move on."
^^^Knows the Finebaum format^^^
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Alabama's compliance department dealt with this swiftly and it's a non-story at this point. Let's go to Bubba in Prattville...
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Alabama's compliance department dealt with this swiftly and it's a non-story at this point. Let's go to Bubba in Prattville...
Let's go to Pop's
Hey Pawl, Hey Pawl, Hey Pawl, dem Aubs done cheated didn't they Pawl. Hey Pawl, Hey Pawl, Hey Pawl
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I wish Pop would dislodge that hairball that's affecting his speech.
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Seriously? Stupid fuckin' retard, I wasn't talking about Alex Watkins (he's not a scholarship player...note I said player). Calloway & Cyrus makes two. Reading is apparently hard for inbreds.
I'm just not even going to deal with your dumb ass.....I'm guessing at this point, you probably have done a little research and figured out why.
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How come the dope smoking Calloway arrest has not earned a single mention anywhere?
Had it been an Auburn signee, Joe Schad would still be on campus dodging rocks and bottles.
How did "Mr. Discipline" handle it? Second chance? Ice cream? Mentoring? Off the team? Pass me one?
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7132428/alabama-crimson-tide-rb-brent-calloway-charged-marijuana-possession
Was on the ESPN College Football front page.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/10/brent_calloways_arrest_will_be.html
Was on the front page of al.com/mobile
Just to name a few. It was also mentioned during the sports segment on WKRG one night. The kid is going to redshirt this season, so I'm not sure what exactly you think should be done. I'm sure anything short of kicking him off of the team will be ridiculous to you. I'm sure you can find something to bitch and moan about.
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7132428/alabama-crimson-tide-rb-brent-calloway-charged-marijuana-possession
Was on the ESPN College Football front page.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/10/brent_calloways_arrest_will_be.html
Was on the front page of al.com/mobile
Just to name a few. It was also mentioned during the sports segment on WKRG one night. The kid is going to redshirt this season, so I'm not sure what exactly you think should be done. I'm sure anything short of kicking him off of the team will be ridiculous to you. I'm sure you can find something to bitch and moan about.
Your mother is sorry she went full term.
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Your mother is sorry she went full term.
Unless she didn't
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Unless she didn't
Would explain a lot, wouldn't it?
Here's his last birthday card.
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Alabama's compliance department dealt with this swiftly and it's a non-story at this point. Let's go to Bubba in Prattville...
Hey, I resemble that!
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Call in.
Tell the screener that you want to praise Paul for going to see Robert in Iowa.
Then when you get on, say, "Hey Paul. I hear Calloway got in trouble. Could you speak on that for a second? I'll hang up and listen."
Of course, he'll just say, "You know I heard something. Does Calloway play for Alabama? Isn't he just a recruit? Oh he's a freshman? Redshirting? Are you sure? Alex, are we sure about that? What about you, Dallas? You heard of him? No? I can't really figure out what's going on with this story. Let's just move on."
You just nailed it. You should just send him that response so he won't actually have to think it himself.
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7132428/alabama-crimson-tide-rb-brent-calloway-charged-marijuana-possession
Was on the ESPN College Football front page.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/10/brent_calloways_arrest_will_be.html
Was on the front page of al.com/mobile
Just to name a few. It was also mentioned during the sports segment on WKRG one night. The kid is going to redshirt this season, so I'm not sure what exactly you think should be done. I'm sure anything short of kicking him off of the team will be ridiculous to you. I'm sure you can find something to bitch and moan about.
Shutup now.
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Shutup now.
Yeah, it got reported, but where's the hue and cry from the "jackass chorus" about "what kind of program is he running down there anyway?" "That program is out of control!"
No, when a bammer player gets arrested, it's an opportunity for Nick to show what kind of disciplinarian he is. When it's an Auburn player, it's proof there's no discipline in the program.
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Yeah, it got reported, but where's the hue and cry from the "jackass chorus" about "what kind of program is he running down there anyway?" "That program is out of control!"
No, when a bammer player gets arrested, it's an opportunity for Nick to show what kind of disciplinarian he is. When it's an Auburn player, it's proof there's no discipline in the program.
This despite the irony that to this point, when an Auburn player is arrested, they are swiftly permanently dismissed from the football team within a day.
How many arrests have their been under Saban? How many of those were actually removed from the team due to the arrests? I seriously can't keep up. I want to say that at least 10 times more players get arrested and play the next week than players who actually get "processed". The only one that comes to mind is Jimmy Johns, but it would have been awful hard for him to play from his prison cell. That is reserved for those that break "undisclosed team rules" or suffer injury, or just don't turn out to be as good as advertised.
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This despite the irony that to this point, when an Auburn player is arrested, they are swiftly permanently dismissed from the football team within a day.
How many arrests have their been under Saban? How many of those were actually removed from the team due to the arrests? I seriously can't keep up. I want to say that at least 10 times more players get arrested and play the next week than players who actually get "processed". The only one that comes to mind is Jimmy Johns, but it would have been awful hard for him to play from his prison cell. That is reserved for those that break "undisclosed team rules" or suffer injury, or just don't turn out to be as good as advertised.
And God forbid a reporter ask about it. It's painted as trying to distract while he's trying to get ready for a game Saturday.
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And God forbid a reporter ask about it. It's painted as trying to distract while he's trying to get ready for a game Saturday.
Lord knows the media would never try to distract the coaches and players from an upcoming game. The state media has never done anything like that! It's all about the game, yes sirree.
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when an Auburn player is arrested, they are swiftly permanently dismissed from the football team within a day.
Every player?
So, no matter what a player is charged with, he should be kicked off the team by the next day. Otherwise, it's not meeting the AU standard?
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Every player?
No, not every single violation results in immediate dismissal. And it shouldn't. But if Chiz had a player caught with dope, which he hasn't yet, I can pretty much assure you he'd be gone.
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Every player?
So, no matter what a player is charged with, he should be kicked off the team by the next day. Otherwise, it's not meeting the AU standard?
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I said nothing about what should or should not happen. I said to this point, the only sample size we have are the HBO 4 (all dismissed within a day), and Eric Smith (also dismissed). In Smith's case he was involved in a fight outside of a bar over a girl, and there are conflicting reports over who started the incident, but most witnesses reported it was the other guy. Regardless, he was immediately suspended for that. He got arrested again for a similar incident and he was permanently dismissed.
The sample size is much smaller at Auburn. I'm not saying a player couldn't get arrested tomorrow for smoking dope or something and Chizik "handles it internally", but I highly doubt the player sees anything less than a one game suspension.
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The sample size is much smaller at Auburn.
I snickered. This is true.
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How many arrests have their been under Saban? How many of those were actually removed from the team due to the arrests? I seriously can't keep up. I want to say that at least 10 times more players get arrested and play the next week than players who actually get "processed". The only one that comes to mind is Jimmy Johns, but it would have been awful hard for him to play from his prison cell. That is reserved for those that break "undisclosed team rules" or suffer injury, or just don't turn out to be as good as advertised.
The first year was pretty rough, but since then, they seem to be few and far between. Off the top of my head, I can think of Calloway, Barron, Elder (dismissed within a week of the arrest), Rashad Johnson, Upshaw, Johns....probably 1 or 2 more I'm missing.
Shit, AU had 5 just this year if we're going to throw stones here. Oh, and you can't give credit for kicking the 4-pack off the team, because it would have been awful hard for them to play from their prison cells. Why wasn't OMac kicked off the team? He was arrested earlier this year. I mean, that's the standard that you set, right? Why did it take like half a year to boot Eric Smith? Where was the next day swiftness?
Just saying, I think your perception of shit is a little skewed. Am I saying it's OK for guys to get arrested? No. But, I don't believe in kicking them off the team right then and there just because they got arrested for something like simple marijuana possession, etc. It doesn't matter if we're talking about Alabama, Auburn, St. Mary's School of the Blind, or whoever. I think every arrest is situational. Not to mention the fact that we're talking about 18-21 year old kids who are going to to dumb shit in the first place. If the AU standard is to kick every guy off the team that gets arrested (which it isn't), then that's great. More power to Chizik. I just don't think it should be the automatic answer, depending on the situation.
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St. Mary's School of the Blind
Wouldn't it be medicinal for them?
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I know it's not the same regime but Tubs seemed to be pretty straightforward. Anyone recall what the Lemarcus Rowell (LB from Opelika) discipline was? He got popped with a sac and a gun on a traffic stop. If memory serves, Tubs suspended him for a year but gave him a second chance, which I think he blew.
Fortunately, Chiz hasn't had to address too much to this point. The 4 arrested was a decision made for him. No brainer.
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Why wasn't OMac kicked off the team? He was arrested earlier this year. I mean, that's the standard that you set, right?
I didn't set shit. I never once said a player should be arrested immediately following an arrest completely agnostic to the circumstances surrounding it. OMac, as I'm sure you know, was "arrested" for the misdemeanor of not having his driver's license on him and for having outdated tags. No one with a trace of sanity would suggest a player be kicked off of a football team for an offense like that.
Robbery? Drugs? Even fights, considering the circumstances. Those are different stories.
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The first year was pretty rough, but since then, they seem to be few and far between. Off the top of my head, I can think of Calloway, Barron, Elder (dismissed within a week of the arrest), Rashad Johnson, Upshaw, Johns....probably 1 or 2 more I'm missing.
Shit, AU had 5 just this year if we're going to throw stones here. Oh, and you can't give credit for kicking the 4-pack off the team, because it would have been awful hard for them to play from their prison cells. Why wasn't OMac kicked off the team? He was arrested earlier this year. I mean, that's the standard that you set, right? Why did it take like half a year to boot Eric Smith? Where was the next day swiftness?
Just saying, I think your perception of shit is a little skewed. Am I saying it's OK for guys to get arrested? No. But, I don't believe in kicking them off the team right then and there just because they got arrested for something like simple marijuana possession, etc. It doesn't matter if we're talking about Alabama, Auburn, St. Mary's School of the Blind, or whoever. I think every arrest is situational. Not to mention the fact that we're talking about 18-21 year old kids who are going to to dumb shit in the first place. If the AU standard is to kick every guy off the team that gets arrested (which it isn't), then that's great. More power to Chizik. I just don't think it should be the automatic answer, depending on the situation.
5 huh?
How many before them?
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How do windows in patrol cars feel about this topic?
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How do windows in patrol cars feel about this topic?
What was the disciplinary action on that again? I forget?
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What was the disciplinary action on that again? I forget?
A very stern talking to and no sprinkles on his ice cream...FOR A WEEK!!!!
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Considering 2 of the Wire Road posse are already playing juco ball out west, the point of them being suspended easily because they were never getting out of jail is invalid. ($aban probably could have gotten all four back out to play)
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I didn't set shit. I never once said a player should be arrested immediately following an arrest completely agnostic to the circumstances surrounding it. OMac, as I'm sure you know, was "arrested" for the misdemeanor of not having his driver's license on him and for having outdated tags. No one with a trace of sanity would suggest a player be kicked off of a football team for an offense like that.
Robbery? Drugs? Even fights, considering the circumstances. Those are different stories.
You said:
to this point, when an Auburn player is arrested, they are swiftly permanently dismissed from the football team within a day.
Eric Smith was arrested. Not dismissed within a day. Suspended the first game, and finished out the rest of the season on the team.
Onterio McCalebb was arrested on some traffic bullshit. Still on the team.
You didn't mention shit about variables, situations, etc etc. You flat out said ^^ that. Maybe you meant to word it differently. I don't know. I'm simply reading exactly what you said. I'm not saying that the two situations should have been handled differently, FWIW. Nobody questioned AU discipline procedures. You introduced the above quote (even though it was factually wrong) as if you felt that was the standard, or an example of correct discipline.
Do you think Calloway should be kicked off the team? Mark Barron?
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A very stern talking to and no sprinkles on his ice cream...FOR A WEEK!!!!
Come on.......can't we talk about this? Maybe only the first half of the week?
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I never once said a player should be arrested immediately following an arrest completely agnostic to the circumstances surrounding it.
What in the flying fuck does that even mean?
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What in the flying fuck does that even mean?
Agnostic = independent of.
It is not strictly a theological term.
I guess it is used more in the tech world.
Platform agnostic, language agnostic, system agnostic, protocol agnostic, etc.
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Agnostic = independent of.
It is not strictly a theological term.
I guess it is used more in the tech world.
Platform agnostic, language agnostic, system agnostic, protocol agnostic, etc.
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I've heard of it before. I'd always heard it explained that the term arose because the program wasn't aware (or didn't "know") what platform it was on; it ran regardless. Not literally, of course...it's just a way of describing software that runs independently from the platform it's on, but it's a relative metaphorical bastardization of the word that doesn't work well in non-tech situations.
At any rate, that was only part of it...
I never once said a player should be arrested immediately following an arrest completely agnostic to the circumstances surrounding it.