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Title: Face....Palm
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 17, 2011, 01:47:48 PM
I didn't post the whole article, which was twice this long..so I wouldn't get any TL;DR.  Anyway, this old world never ceases to amaze me.

A lesbian couple in California who say their 11-year-old son Tommy who wants to be a girl named Tammy are giving their child hormone blockers that delay the onset of puberty -- so that he can have more time that he can have more time to decide if he wants to change his gender.

The couple’s supporters say the Hormone Blocking Therapy has only minor side effects and is appropriate for a child who is unsure of his gender. "This is definitely a changing landscape for transgender youth," said Joel Baum, director of education and training for Gender Spectrum, a California-based non-profit group. "This is about giving kids and their families the opportunity to make the right decision."

But critics of the treatment say 11-year-olds are not old enough to make life-altering decisions about changing their gender, and parents should not be encouraging them. They say it’s too soon to tell what the side effects of the treatments may be, and they say Tommy’s parents, Pauline Moreno and Debra Lobel, are irresponsible for seeking them and allowing them to be administered.

"This is child abuse. It's like performing liposuction on an anorexic child," said Dr. Paul McHugh, professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University.

"It is a disorder of the mind. Not a disorder of the body. Dealing with it in this way is not dealing with the problem that truly exists.

“We shouldn't be mucking around with nature. We can’t assume what the outcome will be," McHugh said.

Dr. Manny Alvarez, senior managing health editor of FoxNews.com, said the hormone blockers also may pose a medical risk. "I think that it’s highly inappropriate to be interfering with natural hormonal growth patterns,” Alvarez said. “There are significant potential problems necessary for growth and development.

"Potential long-term effects can include other abnormalities of hormones, vascular complications and even potential cancer. I think that if this child – as he finishes his puberty and teenage years – decides to undergo a transgender procedure – then there are proper channels to do so.

“But to do it at the age of 11 -- to me -- could be potentially dangerous to the health of this child," he said.

Tommy's parents, Moreno and Lobel, say they support their child and feel this is the best way for him to find an answer to a question he’s been asking all his life. They say Tommy – whom they now call Tammy – began taking GnRH inhibitors over the summer so that he will remain a prepubescent boy until he turns 14 or 15. They say they want to give him more time to explore the female gender identity that he associates with.

Thomas began saying he was a girl when he was 3 years old, his parents said in an interview with the Daily Mail. He was learning sign language due to a speech impediment, and one of the first things he told his mothers was, “I am a girl.” They say they thought he was confused or mistaken, and signed back, 'No. No. Thomas is a boy."

But Thomas insisted, they said. He shook his head “no” and repeated what he had signed.
They said Thomas threatened to mutilate his genitals when he was 7, and psychiatrists diagnosed a gender identity disorder.

One year later, he began transitioning to Tammy.

After much deliberation with family and therapists, the child began taking hormone blockers a few months



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/17/controversial-therapy-for-young-transgender-patients-raises-questions/#ixzz1b3tp1bBl
Title: Re: Face....Palm
Post by: GH2001 on October 17, 2011, 01:51:42 PM
"It is a disorder of the mind. Not a disorder of the body. Dealing with it in this way is not dealing with the problem that truly exists.

“We shouldn't be mucking around with nature. We can’t assume what the outcome will be," McHugh said.

Dr. Manny Alvarez, senior managing health editor of FoxNews.com, said the hormone blockers also may pose a medical risk. "I think that it’s highly inappropriate to be interfering with natural hormonal growth patterns,” Alvarez said. “There are significant potential problems necessary for growth and development.


This is really the main point in the whole thing. Don't mess with nature.
Title: Re: Face....Palm
Post by: djsimp on October 17, 2011, 02:23:37 PM
This is really the main point in the whole thing. Don't mess with nature.

I think we may have the reason for the future Zombie outbreak.
Title: Re: Face....Palm
Post by: GH2001 on October 17, 2011, 02:33:08 PM
I think we may have the reason for the current Bammer outbreak.

FIXT
Title: Re: Face....Palm
Post by: Vandy Vol on October 17, 2011, 05:12:00 PM
FIXT

Bammer trannies...

That's some scary shit.
Title: Re: Face....Palm
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 17, 2011, 06:03:31 PM
Bammer trannies...

That's some scary shit.

Shut yore fucking mouf

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Title: Re: Face....Palm
Post by: Kaos on October 17, 2011, 09:44:43 PM
Is it just me or am I having serious deja?  Wasn't this a topic like weeks ago?  And wasn't honey badger up there like weeks ago?  Am I dreaming?
Title: Re: Face....Palm
Post by: AUJarhead on October 18, 2011, 10:04:09 AM
Is it just me or am I having serious deja?  Wasn't this a topic like weeks ago?  And wasn't honey badger up there like weeks ago?  Am I dreaming?

http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=15882.0
Title: Re: Face....Palm
Post by: Saniflush on October 18, 2011, 10:28:51 AM
It takes me longer to accept the ghey shit than it does most of you.
Title: Re: Face....Palm
Post by: JR4AU on October 19, 2011, 09:07:12 AM
This is really the main point in the whole thing. Don't mess with nature.

Yeah, but none of that matters.  What matters is Jr., who was fucked in the head by being brought in to a fucked up parenting sitution, is now so addled and confused that he thinks he's supposed to be a girl, and since everyone around him is totally fucked up in the head, they encourage him instead of beating the notion out of him. 
Title: Re: Face....Palm
Post by: DnATL on October 26, 2011, 06:48:46 AM
It takes me longer to accept the ghey shit than it does most of you.
AWK and VV only need one appletini (with two straws)
Title: Re: Face....Palm
Post by: CCTAU on October 26, 2011, 09:46:49 AM
Yeah, but none of that matters.  What matters is Jr., who was fucked in the head by being brought in to a fucked up parenting sitution, is now so addled and confused that he thinks he's supposed to be a girl, and since everyone around him is totally fucked up in the head, they encourage him instead of beating the notion out of him.

Had this been a straight couple tying to stop the child, or God forbid a Christian family telling the child that he is not a she, the media would have been all over this. The child would have been immediately removed from the home. And the supreme court would have been convened.

We are such an open and accepting society. So enlightened we are...... :puke:
Title: Re: Face....Palm
Post by: Vandy Vol on October 26, 2011, 09:55:05 AM
AWK and VV only need one appletini dick (with two straws balls)

Fixtorz.