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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: AUTailgatingRules on October 07, 2011, 04:09:47 PM
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Watch all 23 minutes, it is well worth your time on 2 points:
1. The media is so blatantly biased against the right
2. Herman has his shit together and can take all the heat that is going to come his way.
I especially loved the attack on his "dodging" service in Vietnam that comes about the 18 minute mark
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/06/fireworks_msnbcs_lawrence_odonnell_hostile_interview_with_herman_cain.html
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I prefer Gary Johnson and Jon Huntsman, but that appears to be a lost cause at this point.
Devil's advocate. Genuinely curious.
If many of you guys gave Obama shit for his only experience being a "community organizer", (and Illinois & US Senates, & Foreign Relations Committee), how is the Godfather's Pizza guy more qualified?
He is definitely a no-bullshit straight-talker, but is that enough? Is he just another talking-points machine ala Palin?
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Just watched the clip.
O'Donell's a douche. Especially the draft question you were talking about.
You'd think his answer about how his draft board telling him he was best served working for the Navy with rocket assisted projectiles during the war, would be enough to STFU, but instead he goes full asshole by shouting about how he's offended that he didn't enlist to be on the front line overseas.
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I prefer Gary Johnson, that appears to be a lost cause at this point.
Devil's advocate. Genuinely curious.
If many of you guys gave Obama shit for his only experience being a "community organizer", (and Illinois & US Senates, & Foreign Relations Committee), how is the Godfather's Pizza guy more qualified?
He is definitely a no-bullshit straight-talker, but is that enough? Is he just another talking-points machine ala Palin?
I reside in the vote all the career politician bums out of office club. Therefore a guy like Cain is just what is needed. He is a no nonsense, straight shooter that believes in smaller gov't and personal responsibility. If you believe that all Herman has done is be the CEO of Godfathers, you are buying the liberal mainstream definition of him. Herman is a true businessman, he took the worst region of Burger King and turned it into the most profitable division, as well as many other corporate accomplishments.
The biggest thing that Herman has that Barack never had.....He has actually had a job in the real world. Screw career politicians, it's time to get our house in order.
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Ok, the Godfathers and Burger King guy.
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Ok, the Godfathers and Burger King guy.
As opposed to the organizer in chief?
In all reality, with all his flaws, I would rather have Newt. However, he seems to be labeled unelectable. Newt is the only person on either side with the knowledge and experience to move us in the right direction (he knows how the system works).
A person like Romney (whom I voted for last time) is still a "government can solve all our problems type" (see Romneycare). I'm tired of that mentality.
I would love to see a Cain Gingrich ticket.
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Cain definitely has his shit together. This is the first time I've seen him talk, and it's the first I've heard about the tax plan. I'll most likely be voting for him.
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"If you don't have a job, and you're not rich, blame yourself." - Herman Cain.
I like Herman Cain for comments like this, but they also turn me off.
This is what we all want to say to those people who are on welfare and are mooching off of the government and are expecting people with money to be forced to give it to them.
But there are also people out there without jobs and without money because of the state of the economy.
So I appreciate the gall, but I'm still desiring a plan of action.
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That MSNBC guy is a douche of the highest order - he's going to take offense on behalf of those who volunteered during Vietnam, yet what the hell was he doing then? At least Cain was assisting the war effort, and was obviously more valuable with a slide rule than a rifle.
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CEO of 2 corporations + rocket scientist + mathmetician > community organizer.
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That MSNBC guy is a douche of the highest order - he's going to take offense on behalf of those who volunteered during Vietnam, yet what the hell was he doing then? At least Cain was assisting the war effort, and was obviously more valuable with a slide rule than a rifle.
Every question he asked was an attempt to back Cain into a corner.
"What were you doing during the Freedom Riders movement? Why didn't you participate?"
"How do you feel about Hank Williams Jr. comparing Obama to Hitler?"
Cain handled the questions rather well.
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Every question he asked was an attempt to back Cain into a corner.
"What were you doing during the Freedom Riders movement? Why didn't you participate?"
"How do you feel about Hank Williams Jr. comparing Obama to Hitler?"
Cain handled the questions rather well.
Asking the questions can be attributed to "just doing his job" - being a petulant puss when Cain doesn't fail in his response is just being a douche
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Ok, the Godfathers and Burger King guy.
The difference is pretty clear. Do you think that a community agitator and committee member is more capable of leading the country, or do you think that a leader from the free-market system is better able? I'm going with the leader...
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I prefer Gary Johnson and Jon Huntsman, but that appears to be a lost cause at this point.
Devil's advocate. Genuinely curious.
If many of you guys gave Obama shit for his only experience being a "community organizer", (and Illinois & US Senates, & Foreign Relations Committee), how is the Godfather's Pizza guy more qualified?
He is definitely a no-bullshit straight-talker, but is that enough? Is he just another talking-points machine ala Palin?
He's run a fucking business and been successful at it in a difficult and competitive market. He's had to figure out how to keep him and his employees fed and clothed.
He's had to look at his staff and make hard decisions in order to maintain productivity and morale. He's had to adapt in order to keep his businesses going.
He's had to learn how to manage his money so that it is applied to the places it does the most good.
If you've never owned your own business and had to rely on your own wits to survive; had to deal with the daily stresses of people and financial management; had to rely only on what you earn; had to work and work hard..... you have no idea what that's like and what it takes to survive every day.
A fucking "community organizer" takes other people's money, money they did nothing to earn, and shoves it up a wild hog's ass.
Big difference.
A business guy -- one who's successful -- understands economic realities because the pennies were his. A "community organizer" doesn't because in his mind, they just appear by magic (or after you shake down somebody who has money).
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That MSNBC guy is a douche of the highest order - he's going to take offense on behalf of those who volunteered during Vietnam, yet what the hell was he doing then? At least Cain was assisting the war effort, and was obviously more valuable with a slide rule than a rifle.
Every question he asked was an attempt to back Cain into a corner.
"What were you doing during the Freedom Riders movement? Why didn't you participate?"
"How do you feel about Hank Williams Jr. comparing Obama to Hitler?"
Cain handled the questions rather well.
Just now got around to watching this video. Was great. I agree with the above post. He was asked loaded questions, kept his cool, never got angry and answered all the questions very well.
Of course it was an MSNBC interview and I didn't expect any different and I didn't expect them to fact check everything. You would have thought would have learned their lesson after Mo Brooks bitch slapped Contessa Brewer. Guess not.
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Just now got around to watching this video. Was great. I agree with the above post. He was asked loaded questions, kept his cool, never got angry and answered all the questions very well.
Of course it was an MSNBC interview and I didn't expect any different and I didn't expect them to fact check everything. You would have thought would have learned their lesson after Mo Brooks bitch slapped Contessa Brewer. Guess not.
You have been reported to AttackWatch.com
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You have been reported to AttackWatch.com
:thumsup:
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I've been on the Cain Train since Day 1. Here's Herman discussing the OWS protests:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPiSzCDChX4
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I've been on the Cain Train since Day 1. Here's Herman discussing the OWS protests:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPiSzCDChX4
Bunch of freaking John Lennon's "Imagine" loving, commie retards that want everything free and easy. Screw them. I hope they all catch teh goat aids or fall off a bridge and do society a favor.
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Here's Herman on Hannity last night:
Part 1 (http://video.foxnews.com/v/1212549869001/cain-under-attack-from-prominent-african-americans#/v/1211592941001/herman-cain-takes-on-occupy-wall-street-part-1/?playlist_id=87485)
Part 2 (http://video.foxnews.com/v/1211582932001/herman-cain-takes-on-occupy-wall-street-part-2)
I love this man.
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I've been on the Cain Train since Day 1. Here's Herman discussing the OWS protests:
Yes you have. I have liked him since the SC debates on Fox. (I think SC was the first ones they aired) I knew nothing about him other than reading his bio before the debate. He impressed me that night, but I never thought he would gain any momentum. Figured it was Romney all the way, but he is gaining and I am happy for that.
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You guys are seeing what i saw a while ago. I used to listen to Herman on the radio coming home from work at night. When I first heard him, I kept waiting for the librul black victim agenda. It never materialized. The more I listened, the more I heard a man who thought like me. A BLACK man who thought like me. For years I have worked with all races and have found that when you get to a certain level of professionalism, the issues become stability and money. Not race.
Herman epitomizes these ideas and can approach the race issue from a been there done that perspective. I have no problem at all voting for him as a conservative. The black part of it gives the ideas more acceptance. There is no racial agenda attached. Unlike the ONE, who used race to get to white house. If Cain and Newt were to team up, that would make a very stout conservative duo.
I love to hear him answer the critics. Politics as usual does not describe him.
My son was 13 (15 now) when he first heard Herman. He looked at me and said, "Dad. That guy makes perfect sense. I can't argue with anything he said." If a kid can get it, maybe a nation can too.
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You guys are seeing what i saw a while ago. I used to listen to Herman on the radio coming home from work at night. When I first heard him, I kept waiting for the librul black victim agenda. It never materialized. The more I listened, the more I heard a man who thought like me. A BLACK man who thought like me. For years I have worked with all races and have found that when you get to a certain level of professionalism, the issues become stability and money. Not race.
Herman epitomizes these ideas and can approach the race issue from a been there done that perspective. I have no problem at all voting for him as a conservative. The black part of it gives the ideas more acceptance. There is no racial agenda attached. Unlike the ONE, who used race to get to white house. If Cain and Newt were to team up, that would make a very stout conservative duo.
I love to hear him answer the critics. Politics as usual does not describe him.
My son was 13 (15 now) when he first heard Herman. He looked at me and said, "Dad. That guy makes perfect sense. I can't argue with anything he said." If a kid can get it, maybe a nation can too.
Racist...
"Herb" really needs to step it up, if there is any chance. I have no doubt that he'd beat O'bama silly in a debate, and if given the opportunity, he'd win the White House. I don't trust Newt anymore. He's no longer the Conservative that he was during 90s. He's not really serious about this anyway. I'm guessing that he's just doing this for a TV show, sort of like Huck...
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Well, I didn't catch the debate in it's entirety, but I'm a little disappointed that "Herb" announced his support for the first TARP. He explained his position fairly well, but I don't fully agree with him. Most government spending is foolish... And Barry's execution of TARP II was smoke-and-mirrors and Leftist socio-economic engineering.
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Well, I didn't catch the debate in it's entirety, but I'm a little disappointed that "Herb" announced his support for the first TARP. He explained his position fairly well, but I don't fully agree with him. Most government spending is foolish... And Barry's execution of TARP II was smoke-and-mirrors and Leftist socio-economic engineering.
I didn't get to watch, but heard that Cain was bashed pretty hard for the 9-9-9 plan and looked weak, Bachman nailed it, and Romney basically danced around questions and threw out his accomplishments, pimped himself and threw out a bunch of promises as well. Any truth to that?
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I didn't get to watch, but heard that Cain was bashed pretty hard for the 9-9-9 plan and looked weak, Bachman nailed it, and Romney basically danced around questions and threw out his accomplishments, pimped himself and threw out a bunch of promises as well. Any truth to that?
Cain was challenged on the 9-9-9 plan, but in an adolescent way. None of it seemed really serious, and the attacks were weak and shallow. I do believe that Cain should have come out stronger, but even if Cain were to win, I don't think this 9-9-9 plan would ever become reality, which may be the reason for the silly attacks.
Bachman just needs to stay home at this point. She doesn't have a chance. Huntsman and Johnson have nothing useful to say either. Perry... Why is he even up there? At this point, it seems to be more for Romney, Cain and <gulp> Paul. Newt is always the "smartest man in the room", but he would never be elected.
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I didn't get to watch, but heard that Cain was bashed pretty hard for the 9-9-9 plan and looked weak, Bachman nailed it, and Romney basically danced around questions and threw out his accomplishments, pimped himself and threw out a bunch of promises as well. Any truth to that?
I felt just the opposite. Cain DID mention 999 a lot but...In Cain's defense, he was invoked a lot in others' responses about the 999 plan. So he had to respond.
Bachmann looked as weak as she ever has IMHO. She is starting to sound like a broken record with the same politician talking points every debate.
Romney was polished as usual. He looked good to me.
Perry - he's done. The condescending facial expressions are getting old. He seemed lost. And contradicted himself 2-3 times. Plus, most of his statements were factually inaccurate.
Hunstman - nice guy but I think way to liberal in some facets to win over the GOP Primary base.
Santorum - guy needs to get off the moral train. You cant legislate morality - someone tell him this.
Paul - I understand his message on the Fed and he is correct. But he is seriously flawed in how he conveys his message. He comes across looking like a moonbat as Tarheel says. He has no shot.
Newt - I think would make a great economic advisor or VP. Super high economic IQ. I enjoy listening to him. But he has no shot and he knows it.
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Yeah, I need to go back and watch. I was reading what some others were saying and that seemed to be the case, but from here it seems they were off.
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I felt just the opposite. Cain DID mention 999 a lot but...In Cain's defense, he was invoked a lot in others' responses about the 999 plan. So he had to respond.
Bachmann looked as weak as she ever has IMHO. She is starting to sound like a broken record with the same politician talking points every debate.
Romney was polished as usual. He looked good to me.
Perry - he's done. The condescending facial expressions are getting old. He seemed lost. And contradicted himself 2-3 times. Plus, most of his statements were factually inaccurate.
Hunstman - nice guy but I think way to liberal in some facets to win over the GOP Primary base.
Santorum - guy needs to get off the moral train. You cant legislate morality - someone tell him this.
Paul - I understand his message on the Fed and he is correct. But he is seriously flawed in how he conveys his message. He comes across looking like a moonbat as Tarheel says. He has no shot.
Newt - I think would make a great economic advisor or VP. Super high economic IQ. I enjoy listening to him. But he has no shot and he knows it.
This is pretty much spot on.