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Title: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: AUChizad on October 07, 2011, 09:58:56 AM
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Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 07, 2011, 11:00:28 AM
Softening the blow
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: AUChizad on October 07, 2011, 11:14:11 AM
Softening the blow
I see it as "Look how inexperienced we are!!! Send kids here!!!"

And I love it.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 07, 2011, 12:00:08 PM
I see it as "Look how inexperienced we are!!! Send kids here!!!"

And I love it.

I like your take better than mine.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: The Prowler on October 07, 2011, 07:04:06 PM
It's the little things that count the most. It keeps Auburn fresh in the HS Coach's mind.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: War Eagle!!! on October 08, 2011, 11:03:01 AM
It's the little things that count the most. It keeps Auburn fresh in the HS Coach's mind.

This.

Kudos Chiz.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: JR4AU on October 09, 2011, 12:36:58 PM
I see it as "Look how inexperienced we are!!! Send kids here!!!"

And I love it.

Yep!  It's recruiting, nothing more, but it's good recruiting.  Why the fuck would HS coaches give a fuck about "softening the blow"? 
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: RWS on October 09, 2011, 02:45:24 PM
I see it as "Look how inexperienced we are!!! Send kids here!!!"
I thought that was the problem with AU right now? The talent is there, but not enough experience? You don't fix inexperience with inexperience, unless the new inexperience is highly talented. Which would mean your current talent wasn't that talented to begin with.


Which is it?

Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: AWK on October 09, 2011, 03:58:29 PM
Looks bush league to me.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: War Eagle!!! on October 09, 2011, 04:10:37 PM
I thought that was the problem with AU right now? The talent is there, but not enough experience? You don't fix inexperience with inexperience, unless the new inexperience is highly talented. Which would mean your current talent wasn't that talented to begin with.


Which is it?

You're a dumb ass...
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: Townhallsavoy on October 09, 2011, 05:08:58 PM
Looks bush league to me.

100% agreed.

Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: RWS on October 09, 2011, 05:23:38 PM
You're a dumb ass...
I know that's your default answer, but the point is valid. Beyond speculation, I have no idea what it's purpose is, but Chizad's take on it doesn't make alot of sense. If your current problem is inexperience, you're not sending something out to HS coaches saying "Send your inexperienced kids here because we're inexperienced and we need more inexperienced kids to help our inexperience problem!". 
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: JR4AU on October 09, 2011, 09:11:38 PM
I know that's your default answer, but the point is valid. Beyond speculation, I have no idea what it's purpose is, but Chizad's take on it doesn't make alot of sense. If your current problem is inexperience, you're not sending something out to HS coaches saying "Send your inexperienced kids here because we're inexperienced and we need more inexperienced kids to help our inexperience problem!".

Jesus Hoobastank Christ, I was gonna refrain from calling you a dumbass, but I can't now.  Fuckin' shit man...

IT'S A FUCKING RECRUITING TOOL!  SHOULD HE BE SENDING OUT LETTERS SAYING WE DON'T NEED THEIR KIDS?  ARE THEIR ANY "EXPERIENCED" HS KIDS WE CAN RECRUIT?  FUCK'S SAKE MAN, GET WITH IT!
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: RWS on October 09, 2011, 11:44:54 PM
IT'S A FUCKING RECRUITING TOOL! 
I never said it wasn't.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: War Eagle!!! on October 10, 2011, 09:37:59 AM
100% agreed.

Why?

It's equivalent to a birthday card or a thank you note. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's the same as a business weekly newsletter from a company just keeping the "brand" fresh in people's mind. Nothing more, nothing less.

I like it.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: AWK on October 10, 2011, 10:46:01 AM
Why?

It's equivalent to a birthday card or a thank you note. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's the same as a business weekly newsletter from a company just keeping the "brand" fresh in people's mind. Nothing more, nothing less.

I like it.
It makes us appear as if we are not accustomed to winning.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: JR4AU on October 10, 2011, 11:23:48 AM
It makes us appear as if we are not accustomed to winning.

No!  No it doesn't.   :facepalm: 
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: JR4AU on October 10, 2011, 11:46:35 AM
No!  No it doesn't.   :facepalm:

This tells me that I can trust Chizik on how to properly recruit: http://rivals.yahoo.com/auburn/football/recruiting/teamrank/2012/all/all

2 top 10 classes in a row, and setting up for the 3rd.  Of 15 commits, 10, that's 2/3 are 4 star recruits.  People scoffed at Tiger Prowl, laughed at Big Cat Weekends, and some here think a simple note that says "we took a young team on the road and got a big win, but we got more work to do, y'all keep working too" looks Bush League.   The more important things on that little note are what's listed on the left, and the little hidden tidbit of "we have room on our roster for kids that want to play now". 
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: War Eagle!!! on October 10, 2011, 12:14:30 PM
It makes us appear as if we are not accustomed to winning.


How? Because we are sending out what is an equivalent to a marketing letter?

You are reading way too much into this I think...
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: War Eagle!!! on October 10, 2011, 12:17:53 PM
It makes us appear as if we are not accustomed to winning.

I tell you what, I know you guys have your own business. Do this:

-Build a database of all clients and potential clients.
-When something good happens to your business, or something good happens to your business, send out a marketing e-mail or letter.
-Use the database to send out birthday and Christmas cards.
-Send out a monthly notice talking about things that are happening in the tax world or whatever.
-Watch your business grow
-Pay War Eagle!!! on residual commission based on that growth.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: AWK on October 10, 2011, 12:21:14 PM
First sentence of the letter:

Quote
HUGE ROAD WIN FOR OUR INEXPERIENCED TIGERS!!!!!!

All caps?  Excessive abuse of exclamation points?  Was this written by an excited teenager?  Where is the professional etiquette? 

That's my point, act like you have been there before.  It appears very unprofessional.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: AWK on October 10, 2011, 12:22:52 PM
I tell you what, I know you guys have your own business. Do this:

-Build a database of all clients and potential clients.
-When something good happens to your business, or something good happens to your business, send out a marketing e-mail or letter.
-Use the database to send out birthday and Christmas cards.
-Send out a monthly notice talking about things that are happening in the tax world or whatever.
-Watch your business grow
-Pay War Eagle!!! on residual commission based on that growth.
We do this, but we do it through our website and other avenues.  And we don't have the first sentence say:

Quote
OUR INEXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS ACTUALLY HELPED RELIEVE A CLIENT OF TAX DEBT!!!!!
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: JR4AU on October 10, 2011, 12:25:01 PM
First sentence of the letter:

All caps?  Excessive abuse of exclamation points?  Was this written by an excited teenager?  Where is the professional etiquette? 

That's my point, act like you have been there before.  It appears very unprofessional.

That is the target demographic.  Big difference in who they're targeting with this vs. your tax clients.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: AUChizad on October 10, 2011, 12:25:43 PM
First of all, this is not completely innovative. Schools do shit like this all the time.

But what I think is obvious to most people not named RWS, is that this is basically saying we've got a young and inexperienced team, if recruits come here, they can be a part of this young team right away. The team that won that trophy Fairley's holding down there on the left just last year.

Didn't expect this thread to get one response, much less spark debate.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: AWK on October 10, 2011, 12:26:40 PM
That is the target demographic.  Big difference in who they're targeting with this vs. your tax clients.
Maybe, but weren't these sent to the High School coaches, not the players?
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: JR4AU on October 10, 2011, 12:41:44 PM
Maybe, but weren't these sent to the High School coaches, not the players?
You don't like it.  Nothing I say will change that.  Thankfully it doesn't make one shit what you think.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: Townhallsavoy on October 10, 2011, 12:51:21 PM
You don't like it.  Nothing I say will change that.  Thankfully it doesn't make one shit what you think.

What he thinks actually did make one shit their pants. 
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: Vandy Vol on October 10, 2011, 12:57:28 PM
Maybe, but weren't these sent to the High School coaches, not the players?

Indeed.  And even if the letters had been sent to the players, they're teenage dudes, not teenage Valley girls who are excited about their first successful blow job.

"OMG!!!!  I FIT THE WHOLE THING IN MY MOUTH WITHOUT PUKING OR ANYTHING!!!"

Show me a high school dude who types in caps and utilizes multiple exclamation marks, and I will show you a dude who will jerk you off under the high school bleachers.

Aside from that, it was a grammatical train wreck.  The third sentence was a rambling mess of a run-on that was probably produced by Rain Man.

Does it achieve the result of keeping the school's program fresh on your mind?  Sure, but can't you do that in a more professional manner?  Why send out something that can be viewed by some as embarrassingly shitty?  Your goal in recruiting is to attract as many schools, coaches, and players as possible; doing anything that may turn off even just a few does not help you achieve that goal.

If you're going to do a letter like this, do it right.  Don't let your water/towel/reach-around girl who's in a sorority write a steaming pile of shit for you and slap your signature on it.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: JR4AU on October 10, 2011, 01:42:58 PM
I'd bet the coaches and players thst see this letter aren't overthinking it near a as much as some here.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: AWK on October 10, 2011, 01:49:02 PM
What he thinks actually did make one shit their pants.
He knows.  Some call it a curse, I call it a gift.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: Vandy Vol on October 10, 2011, 02:07:32 PM
I'd bet the coaches and players thst see this letter aren't overthinking it near a as much as some here.

Most probably don't.  But there are those who would.  My high school coach is one of those who would take into account the quality of the letter.

In the grand scheme of things, this letter isn't going to prevent players from going to Auburn.  But you also have to consider that this letter is not going to cause players to go to Auburn either.  By itself, it's relatively insignificant, but that still doesn't excuse making a half-assed attempt.

My only gripe is with the lackadaisical approach that resulted in a letter of poor quality.  You can argue that the letter keeps Auburn in the minds of these schools, their players, and their coaches, but what if the letter leaves a negative impression?  Visiting a recruit also keeps your program on his mind, but if you show up knowing nothing about the kid and you speak like a bumbling buffoon, then it's going to leave a bad memory.

My opinion on the letter, and on any recruiting matter, is that if you're going to bother doing it, then do it right.  Don't just assume that coaches and players will overlook your lack of professionalism and grammatical abilities.  Don't just assume that all of the pretty awards on the colorful letterhead will distract them from your childlike prose.  Don't just assume that sending them feces in a box with an Auburn logo on it will keep your program fresh on their minds.

Make every impression count.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: The Prowler on October 10, 2011, 02:16:26 PM
Most probably don't.  But there are those who would.  My high school coach is one of those who would take into account the quality of the letter.

In the grand scheme of things, this letter isn't going to prevent players from going to Auburn.  But you also have to consider that this letter is not going to cause players to go to Auburn either.  By itself, it's relatively insignificant, but that still doesn't excuse making a half-assed attempt.

My only gripe is with the lackadaisical approach that resulted in a letter of poor quality.  You can argue that the letter keeps Auburn in the minds of these schools, their players, and their coaches, but what if the letter leaves a negative impression?  Visiting a recruit also keeps your program on his mind, but if you show up knowing nothing about the kid and you speak like a bumbling buffoon, then it's going to leave a bad memory.

My opinion on the letter, and on any recruiting matter, is that if you're going to bother doing it, then do it right.  Don't just assume that coaches and players will overlook your lack of professionalism and grammatical abilities.  Don't just assume that all of the pretty awards on the colorful letterhead will distract them from your childlike prose.  Don't just assume that sending them feces in a box with an Auburn logo on it will keep your program fresh on their minds.

Make every impression count.
These are going out to High Schools in Alabama, no one gives a shit about grammatical errors.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: Vandy Vol on October 10, 2011, 02:19:08 PM
These are going out to High Schools in Alabama, no one gives a shit about grammatical errors.

True...maybe they should have written it in crayon and included references to sexual relations with family members.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 10, 2011, 02:23:55 PM
True...maybe they should have written it in crayon and included references to sexual relations with family members.

HEY COARCHES!!! THAT GIRL CAN FIT A WHOLE COCK IN HER MOUTH!!!  SEND YOUR KIDS TO US!!!
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 10, 2011, 02:25:06 PM
True...maybe they should have written it in crayon and included references to sexual relations with family members.

Works for the Tahd
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: JR4AU on October 10, 2011, 02:55:33 PM
Most probably don't.  But there are those who would.  My high school coach is one of those who would take into account the quality of the letter.

In the grand scheme of things, this letter isn't going to prevent players from going to Auburn.  But you also have to consider that this letter is not going to cause players to go to Auburn either.  By itself, it's relatively insignificant, but that still doesn't excuse making a half-assed attempt.

My only gripe is with the lackadaisical approach that resulted in a letter of poor quality.  You can argue that the letter keeps Auburn in the minds of these schools, their players, and their coaches, but what if the letter leaves a negative impression?  Visiting a recruit also keeps your program on his mind, but if you show up knowing nothing about the kid and you speak like a bumbling buffoon, then it's going to leave a bad memory.

My opinion on the letter, and on any recruiting matter, is that if you're going to bother doing it, then do it right.  Don't just assume that coaches and players will overlook your lack of professionalism and grammatical abilities.  Don't just assume that all of the pretty awards on the colorful letterhead will distract them from your childlike prose.  Don't just assume that sending them feces in a box with an Auburn logo on it will keep your program fresh on their minds.

Make every impression count.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: Saniflush on October 10, 2011, 02:59:46 PM
My high school coach is one of those who would take into account the quality of the letter.


I doubt they are sending them to the flag corps.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: Vandy Vol on October 10, 2011, 03:04:47 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You probably should have typed that as, "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!"

It shows enthusiasm and keeps your comment fresh on my mind.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: Vandy Vol on October 10, 2011, 03:07:23 PM

I doubt they are sending them to the flag corps.

Flag corps?  No, I only shoved flag poles in my asshole.  Despite that fetish, I never joined the flag corps.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: AUJarhead on October 10, 2011, 03:08:58 PM
HEY COARCHES!!! THAT GIRL CAN FIT A WHOLE COCK IN HER MOUTH!!!  SEND YOUR KIDS TO US!!!

Buzz = Brooks?
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 10, 2011, 03:32:19 PM
You probably should have typed that as, "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!"

It shows enthusiasm and keeps your comment fresh on my mind.

I giggled like a young German school girl.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: AWK on October 10, 2011, 04:02:52 PM
I just used my mind power to make one of THS's students shit themselves.
Title: Re: Apparently, These Are Going Out to HS Coaches
Post by: DnATL on October 10, 2011, 06:25:29 PM
I just used my mind power to make one of THS's students shit themselves.
He made a bean burrito