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Title: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Ogre on May 01, 2008, 02:29:48 PM
I'll list just the SEC teams.  For the full article, click here. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/stewart_mandel/05/01/spring.rankings/index.html?bcnn=yes)

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Georgia exits spring as No. 1

I've been writing these end-of-spring power rankings for several years now, and for once, I actually feel confident that I know what I'm talking about.

Why? Because the unprecedented amount of coverage surrounding spring football these days -- televised spring games, Saturday-night highlights and near-daily stories in certain parts of the country -- means that what takes place during those 15 practices is no longer top-secret information. (Except at Alabama, of course.)

On the pages that follow, you'll find a brief recap of developments that took place during each team's spring camp, as well as a "spring star" -- a young player or career reserve that turned heads during practices/scrimmages and will likely make an impact in the fall.

It's no coincidence, by the way, that my colleague Andrew Perloff's recent 2009 NFL mock draft included a whole bunch of players from Ohio State and USC and a No. 1 overall pick from Georgia. It's becoming increasingly clear to me that those three teams are absolutely loaded heading into this season and therefore sit atop this poll, but I certainly wouldn't sneeze at Missouri, LSU, Oklahoma or Florida, either.

1.  Georgia Bulldogs (11-2 in 2007)
Returning starters: 17 (Offense: 8 Defense: 9)

Key returnees: QB Matthew Stafford, RB Knowshon Moreno, DT Geno Atkins, LB Danell Ellerbe, CB Asher Allen.

Spring star: RB Caleb King. The redshirt freshman was impressive in Georgia's spring game and should provide a nice complement to Moreno in the fall.

Spring recap: Stafford, entering his third season, showed continued development, and may have found a new go-to receiver in freshman Tavarres King. (Stud recruit A.J. Green also arrives in the fall.) LB Rennie Curran drew consistent praise from coach Mark Richt.

5.  LSU Tigers (12-2)
Returning starters: 12 (Offense: 7 Defense: 5)

Key returnees: WRs Brandon LaFell and Demetrius Byrd, DE Tyson Jackson, DT Ricky Jean Francois, LB Darry Beckwith.

Spring star: RB Richard Murphy. The sophomore exploded for 145 yards on 11 carries in the spring game, though Keiland Williams is the expected No. 1 tailback.

Spring recap: The overriding storyline of LSU's spring was the absence of suspended QB Ryan Perrilloux, who has since been reinstated. The Tigers' offensive line is shaping up to be dominant. Coach Les Miles is still looking for two reliable cornerbacks.

7.  Florida Gators (9-4)
Returning starters: 16 (Offense: 8 Defense: 8)

Key returnees: QB Tim Tebow, WRs Percy Harvin and Louis Murphy, LB Brandon Spikes, S Major Wright.

Spring star: DE Carlos Dunlap. The sophomore asserted himself as Florida's next great pass-rusher, notching four sacks in the Gators' spring game.

Spring recap: The Tebow-led passing game looked explosive as ever. RBs Chris Rainey and Emmanuel Moody showed big-play potential but lack consistency. Coach Urban Meyer cited the secondary as the most improved area on the team.

9.  Auburn Tigers (9-4)
Returning starters: 15 (Offense: 8 Defense: 7)

Key returnees: QB Kodi Burns, RBs Ben Tate and Brad Lester, DE Antonio Coleman, DT Sen'Derrick Marks.

Spring star: WR Terrell Zachary. The sophomore, who was ineligible for most of last season, showed signs of becoming a big-time playmaker.

Spring recap: Burns made strides in new coordinator Tony Franklin's spread offense, going 26-of-36 for 355 yards in his last two scrimmages. The Tigers are still adjusting to playing at a hurry-up tempo. LB Tray Blackmon emerged as a leader on defense.

12.  Tennessee Volunteers (10-4)
Returning starters: 14 (Offense: 8 Defense: 6)

Key returnees: RB Arian Foster, WR Lucas Taylor, G Anthony Parker, S Eric Berry.

Spring star: WR Gerald Jones. The athletic sophomore merited his own package -- "the G-Gun" -- in which he lines up at QB and can throw or run.

Spring recap: The Vols adjusted to eight new assistants, most notably offensive coordinator Dave Clawson, who experimented with both Jones and Berry in the shotgun. Jonathan Crompton looks ready to take over for Erik Ainge at QB.

24.  Alabama Crimson Tide (7-6)
Returning starters: 15 (Offense: 9 Defense: 6)

Key returnees: QB John Parker Wilson, RB Terry Grant, T Andre Smith, S Rashad Johnson.

Spring star: WR Mike McCoy. The junior, who caught six balls for 101 yards in the spring game, could step into the go-to role vacated by D.J. Hall.

Spring recap: Wilson looked sharp in the spring game, with Grant stepping up in the passing attack. Several promising youngsters provided depth for the D-line. The status of LBs Prince Hall (suspension) and Zeke Knight (illness) are up in the air.

Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: BLS on May 01, 2008, 04:20:25 PM
Georgia has a lot of talent in Stafford and Moreno. Two key positions. If they can handle the preseason hype and keep the focus on one game at a time, they have the tools to do it.

Same with Florida and LSU. The pieces are there.
Florida and Georgia will play for the east and I think Georgia gets in.
The west is a mess. I see Alabama, Auburn and LSU very close. LSU might edge into the SEC game on talent alone. I know they lost Bo but unless Miles really fucks it up, they are still solid. The only thing that can throw that out is if either Bama has a run of luck, because right now we have to many holes in our team depth wise and we will be young at a few positions, or Auburn gets in tune with the new offense quickly. Auburn's O'line is the key to much of the success and Burns is going to have to play his ass off and play smart. If that happens you could get in. . LSU has it talent wise but they'll begin to start slipping up soon. It's a very good chance that starts happening this year.

All three west teams have enough questions of their own to answer for and each has just as good a chance as the other, which ever one can get it together early and hold the momentum will have their chance to try and give Georgia all they can handle.
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Buzz Killington on May 01, 2008, 04:23:42 PM
I'm sorry, but I just don't see LSU or Florida with any less than 3 losses this year.
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Lurking Tiger on May 01, 2008, 04:59:53 PM
LSU ...lost Bo

This will help them, not hurt them.


unless When one of Miles fuck ups finally catches up with him.

A little closer to the truth.
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: BLS on May 01, 2008, 06:28:03 PM
This will help them, not hurt them.


A little closer to the truth.


I stand corrected sir!       :clap:
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Hogwally on May 01, 2008, 11:56:00 PM
There are more than three teams in the West.  I wouldn't write off my Hogs.
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Saniflush on May 02, 2008, 07:48:02 AM
There are more than three teams in the West.  I wouldn't write off my Hogs.

He wasn't writing them off.  He just mistakenly listed Alabama in lieu of Arkansas.  Easy to understand since bama stole Arkansas's script A.
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: BLS on May 02, 2008, 08:55:00 AM
He wasn't writing them off.  He just mistakenly listed Alabama in lieu of Arkansas.  Easy to understand since bama stole Arkansas's script A.


Hogwally, I think Arky has a year to build and get the staff messed. Next year is when we'll start seeing you guys taking shape. I'm not saying  the Hogs won't pull out some wins this year, that's a given. You guys just have a year or so to catch up. Petrino will add another quality coaching staff to the already tough SEC.

Saniflush that fucking script A sucks. I wish we would quite using it.
LSU would like to have their Tiger back.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Saniflush on May 02, 2008, 09:49:29 AM
LSU would like to have their Tiger back. 

"The ocean called and said they are out of shrimp."
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Buzz Killington on May 02, 2008, 12:36:20 PM
"The ocean called and said they are out of shrimp."
Oh yeah?  Well, the jerk store called and they are running out of you!
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 02, 2008, 01:32:37 PM
Oh yeah?  Well, the jerk store called and they are running out of you!

Wooooo...you told him.  He's reeling right now.
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Hogwally on May 03, 2008, 03:14:45 AM
     I am usually accused of drinking the pork flavored kool-aid, but I don't think we're going to be down nearly as much as some believe.  If I was an Alabama fan (thank you baby Jesus and Tom Cruise for not inflicting that on me), I wouldn't be chalking the trip to Fayetteville up in the easy win column.
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: ssgaufan on May 03, 2008, 08:41:50 AM
I actually agree with Hogwally.  Arky should have a good O line, and the RB Smith doesn't look to shabby.  And looking at post spring tng results, you can see that Dick can throw the ball.  That's something that Nutt couldn't figure out.  Petrino will be tough to beat starting this year.  I do hope that Tubbs lights his ass up though. 
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: BLS on May 03, 2008, 09:01:44 AM
     I am usually accused of drinking the pork flavored kool-aid, but I don't think we're going to be down nearly as much as some believe.  If I was an Alabama fan (thank you baby Jesus and Tom Cruise for not inflicting that on me), I wouldn't be chalking the trip to Fayetteville up in the easy win column.

I'm sure Bama fans feel the same way. We're happy that you’re blessed in such a way.

The shape Bama is in right now, no win will come easy. One great recruiting class does not make a team. We are about two years from being serious contenders in the SEC, on a consistent basis. I do believe that the way things have shaken up in the west this year that Auburn, Alabama and LSU have the best shot at it.

Could the Hogs luck up and get in the SEC? Sure but in my opinion, I think Petrino will need a year to get things ironed out. I just feel like Bama Auburn and LSU have a better chance to make it happen.
Yes, you may beat Alabama this year. It was a close game last year. I look for us to be a little better than we were then. At least I hope we will be.
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Buzz Killington on May 05, 2008, 08:29:43 AM
     I am usually accused of drinking the pork flavored kool-aid, but I don't think we're going to be down nearly as much as some believe.  If I was an Alabama fan (thank you baby Jesus and Tom Cruise for not inflicting that on me), I wouldn't be chalking the trip to Fayetteville up in the easy win column.
I would never count out an offense coached by Petrino in the College ranks.  I just don't know what kind of D they will actually have this year, but if it is decent, they WILL surprise several teams this fall.  I just hope Auburn is not one of them.
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Tidesucksass on May 07, 2008, 02:48:22 PM
I would never count out an offense coached by Petrino in the College ranks.  I just don't know what kind of D they will actually have this year, but if it is decent, they WILL surprise several teams this fall.  I just hope Auburn is not one of them.

Tubbs never really tried to stick it to the pigs because he is from there. Win, yes. Humiliate, no.

But he and the new sheriff out there are not exactly best friends. So I think he will keep the pedal pressed all the way down until the forth quarter is finished.

Love for the state of Arkansas < Hate for Petrino
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Hogwally on May 07, 2008, 08:33:45 PM
Yes he's always taken it kind of easy on the hogs, with his 6-7 record against them.  Probably a good thing, if he didn't like Ark so much, he may have gotten that record all the way up to .500 and really embarrassed us.
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 07, 2008, 09:08:39 PM
Yes he's always taken it kind of easy on the hogs, with his 6-7 record against them.  Probably a good thing, if he didn't like Ark so much, he may have gotten that record all the way up to .500 and really embarrassed us.

Now you're gettin' the picture.  Don't make us go all .500 on your ass. 
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Tidesucksass on May 08, 2008, 12:39:37 AM
Yes he's always taken it kind of easy on the hogs, with his 6-7 record against them.  Probably a good thing, if he didn't like Ark so much, he may have gotten that record all the way up to .500 and really embarrassed us.

Which UA boards do you post on ?
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Saniflush on May 08, 2008, 08:48:42 AM
Tubbs never really tried to stick it to the pigs because he is from there. Win, yes. Humiliate, no.

But he and the new sheriff out there are not exactly best friends. So I think he will keep the pedal pressed all the way down until the forth quarter is finished.

Love for the state of Arkansas < Hate for Petrino


I doubt highly that even Petrino will reach the hated heights of Jackie Sherrill during Tubs first couple of years.  I enjoyed every touchdown that was called with time running out during his tenure at Mississippi St.

<wipes tear from eye>
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Hogwally on May 08, 2008, 01:29:01 PM
The only other board I post on is the Scout-Hawgsillustrated insider board.
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 08, 2008, 01:53:52 PM
I wonder just how much animosity there really is, if any, between CTT and Petrino.  Yes, it would seem logical that a guy who was all but accepting an offer to boot you out would be on the shit list.  But, who knows if these guys have talked since then or what Petrino was told by the nut sacks that flew up there?
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: BLS on May 08, 2008, 02:53:02 PM
I wonder just how much animosity there really is, if any, between CTT and Petrino.  Yes, it would seem logical that a guy who was all but accepting an offer to boot you out would be on the shit list.  But, who knows if these guys have talked since then or what Petrino was told by the nut sacks that flew up there?


I'm sure they've talked but, I doubt they are on each other's Christmas list either. Now that Petrino is in the SEC ,especially at Arky, they'll develope a bit of rivalry hate. Once the media puts it's fucked up claws into the first thing that is the least bit controversial between the two it will grow a life of it's own.

Rotten son of a bitches.
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 08, 2008, 03:11:29 PM
I agree.  They may really hate each other's guts but who really knows besides them?  But either way, the media will paint it to be Wrestlemania XII
Title: Re: Stewart Mandel's Post-Spring Rankings
Post by: Jumbo on May 08, 2008, 04:29:44 PM
I wonder just how much animosity there really is, if any, between CTT and Petrino.  Yes, it would seem logical that a guy who was all but accepting an offer to boot you out would be on the shit list.  But, who knows if these guys have talked since then or what Petrino was told by the nut sacks that flew up there?
I would imagine that Tubbs hates Petrino's ass, I would hate the asshole trying to take my job.