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Title: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Tiger Wench on August 12, 2011, 01:57:02 AM
TOP sports story in Houston tonight. Serious credibility. Special meeting of TAMU board of trustees called for Aug 22. Could be announced as soon as Sept 1.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: jmar on August 12, 2011, 06:15:52 AM
TOP sports story in Houston tonight. Serious credibility. Special meeting of TAMU board of trustees called for Aug 22. Could be announced as soon as Sept 1.
Yes the SEC "to consider" possible additions upon seeing divorce papers from TU.

Wonder what our oil man in Oklahoma is thinking.
How do you feel about Aggies, brother Okies and a mystery team from the west or EAST to make four?

Pawl. PAWL this Tom's Menswear story is getting buried by this Texas two-step. It's a conespiracy Pawl. I'll hang up an lisen.

Then again I'm not so sure the SEC isn't just right as it is.  How many days till kickoff?
 
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: AUJarhead on August 12, 2011, 07:33:42 AM
How do you feel about Aggies, brother Okies and a mystery team from the west or EAST to make four?

Yep, and I think that mystery team will be Mizzou.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Saniflush on August 12, 2011, 07:38:08 AM
Yep, and I think that mystery team will be Mizzou.

I say fuck all of them except aTm.  OU is not coming.  They'll go somewhere they can continue to play a patsy schedule. 
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: AUJarhead on August 12, 2011, 08:02:48 AM
It's all about TV markets, and those 4 teams bring more to the table than aTm and a team like GT or Clemson or FSU, places where the SEC already has a strong TV presence.

You get those 4 from the Big12, you're getting Houston and Dallas, you're getting all of Oklahoma, and you're getting Kansas City and St Louis.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Saniflush on August 12, 2011, 08:19:07 AM
It's all about TV markets, and those 4 teams bring more to the table than aTm and a team like GT or Clemson or FSU, places where the SEC already has a strong TV presence.

You get those 4 from the Big12, you're getting Houston and Dallas, you're getting all of Oklahoma, and you're getting Kansas City and St Louis.

You just want them in so you have an easier time watching games on TV.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: AUJarhead on August 12, 2011, 08:20:43 AM
You just want them in so you have an easier time watching games on TV.

That and I can make an Auburn every now and then.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: djsimp on August 12, 2011, 08:38:09 AM
Yep, and I think that mystery team will be Mizzou.

From what I was told, Mizzou hasn't signed their renewal deal with the Big 12 yet.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: wesfau2 on August 12, 2011, 09:03:45 AM
Fuck expansion.  I like the SEC just the way it is.

Now you kids get off my fuckin lawn.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on August 12, 2011, 09:07:06 AM
Skarbinsky verifying via twitter that Rick Perry (A&M Alum and Tex Gov.) meeting with Bentley tonight in Birmingham.  Says also, "accross the street from the SEC offices."

Sounds like it's coming.   They've GOT to have a partner in this though... I just don't see how we bring in one team and have one division run with a team short on one side.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: djsimp on August 12, 2011, 09:13:15 AM
They've GOT to have a partner in this though... I just don't see how we bring in one team and have one division run with a team short on one side.

Agreed, and I don't think they will only bring one team. This whole thing has been a the dl for a while and I'd bet the SEC knows exactly who the other team is.

I do agree, also, on the fact that the SEC is fine where it is. I would really hate the best conference on the planet to get watered down by teams that have nothing more to offer than what the SEC already has.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on August 12, 2011, 09:16:12 AM
I believe that A&M will come with another team smart enough to keep it under the radar and out of the news... but from outside the Big 12.   My guess?  VA Tech.  They fit the mold, fanbase, success, facilities and creeps us up the East Coast a little bit to balance the Western expansion A&M brings.

Others may follow (like 2 more), but those would seem the most likely to me.  HUGE TOTAL GUESS on my part though....
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 12, 2011, 09:24:52 AM
Fuck expansion.  I like the SEC just the way it is.

Now you kids get off my fuckin lawn.

Agree with my esteemed colleague.....on both counts.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: AUChizad on August 12, 2011, 09:31:19 AM
I could deal with VT.

A&M will probably be on par with the Mississippi schools, at least for a while. Better than the Eastern doormats (UK & Vandy), but not by much.

I like it for the big-picture.

A) They are well-rounded in all sports. Pretty good basketball & baseball teams.
B) Opens up the state of Tejas to the SEC. TV markets, blah blah.
C) As a result of B, I think their football team will eventually become the premiere team in their state. Much like UF eclipsed FSU & Miami. And they've got a hell of a recruiting base to work with. That will actually hurt other SEC teams, although I don't think that negative effect will be too  detrimental.

However, I don't like shaking up what I feel is pretty much the only perfect institution in college football, which is the current SEC divisions & interdivision rivals. The east has been kind of weak as of late, but that's a cyclical thing. Adding two more western teams won't help. Adding 1 more western team is even worse. Fucks up the whole balance.

If they add two more teams from the west, what happens? We'll likely move.

I'm fine with that. Our division rival can be Alabama, and we can still play them and UGA every year.

But what does that do to Bama? They'd have to choose between us and UT. Assuming they go with us, UT will have to take one of the West Teams. I guess UGA gets the other? It'll cause some chaos for sure. Won't fit as well, IMO.

Adding VT is about the only way I can see this making sense...
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: ssgaufan on August 12, 2011, 09:42:11 AM
I fucking HATE VT.  That move would make me sick.  Fuck em, they can keep being the king of the shitty ACC.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on August 12, 2011, 09:49:26 AM
I fucking HATE VT.  That move would make me sick.  Fuck em, they can keep being the king of the shitty ACC.

First... Your new sig is tight...perfect... in many ways.  :thumsup:

Second, VT would probably LOVE to hand over the ACC to teams like Clemson, GT and FSU... Fuck'em.  Beating ANY of those teams does nothing (currently, outside of MAYBE FSU) to bolster your bowl bids, status and chances at a NC run if successful.  The bulk of ACC power happens in March Madness, not in the fall.

I think they know they're a football school in a basketball conference and would jump if they had the chance. 
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Saniflush on August 12, 2011, 09:52:17 AM
  They've GOT to have a partner in this though... I just don't see how we bring in one team and have one division run with a team short on one side.

Fuck it.  13 team SEC.  Everybody plays everybody one time. 

Meatgrinder bitches.  There are no patsies.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 12, 2011, 09:52:55 AM
I vote for no change but if we were going to do anything, I'd vote for kicking out Vandy and then chain locking and bolting the door so they couldn't get back in.....pulling down the shade so they couldn't even look through the window. 

If we were adding two, I'd bring in FSU first and either GT or Clemson.  I think the rivalries between those 3 schools and many SEC teams are already in place and I think they're better fits geographically.  A&M or any other Big 12 school just seems to be a reach.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: CCTAU on August 12, 2011, 09:53:48 AM
Whoever it is, I would still like to think of them as SOUTHERN when I think SEC. Mizzou seems a little outside of that box.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: wesfau2 on August 12, 2011, 09:58:13 AM
Fuck VT and stick a warm cock in Frank Beamer's goiter.  Fucking dirty playing, turkey gobbling knob-slobbers.

Fuck FSU as well.  They had their chance and pussied out.

Fuck any team from Texas or Missour-uh in the SOUTHEASTERN Conference.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on August 12, 2011, 09:58:55 AM
A&M or any other Big 12 school just seems to be a reach.

It's no more a reach than Columbia, SC is to Baton Rouge, LA.  Right?

Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: dallaswareagle on August 12, 2011, 09:59:50 AM
You just want them in so you have an easier time watching games on TV.

And one game I can drive to.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: ssgaufan on August 12, 2011, 10:00:52 AM
If VT came to the SEC we would have to hear about fucking beamer ball all the damn time.  It gets on my nerves as it is now, just hearing about it a couple times a year.   :suicide:
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Saniflush on August 12, 2011, 10:01:27 AM
It's no more a reach than Columbia, SC is to Baton Rouge, LA.  Right?

We shit can KY and pick up whoever we want in Texas. 

I say if you were in the club that formed 150 years ago then you are pre-qualified to be in the SEC.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: ssgaufan on August 12, 2011, 10:02:58 AM
We shit can KY and pick up whoever we want in Texas. 

I say if you were in the club that formed 150 years ago then you are pre-qualified to be in the SEC.

I really wouldn't want to lose our only BBall blueblood though.  And for the record, I would be ok with picking up aTm.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on August 12, 2011, 10:06:04 AM
We shit can KY Vandy and pick up whoever we want in Texas. 

I say if you were in the club that formed 150 years ago then you are pre-qualified to be in the SEC.

Better.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Saniflush on August 12, 2011, 10:19:13 AM
Better.

Nah. 
Gotta have Vandy for GPA standards alone.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Tiger Wench on August 12, 2011, 10:22:45 AM
Like it or not, we NEED Vandy for academic ratings.

I am guessing Mizzou and TAMU, plus GT and TBD.

The funny thing is this:  TAMU fans are all saying how they are going to join the biggest badest muther-effin conference in football, yo... fuck Texas.  We rulz...

But yeah, you Aggie dipshits.  You ARE about to join the biggest badest muther-effin conference in football, yo.  You couldn't win in the Big Twelve - how the FUCK do you think you are gonna compete in the SEC, home of the last FIVE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS? 

Aggies gonna get cornholed.

Local sports media also seem to think that Aggies get no recruiting boost from joining the SEC, since the MooCows and the Okies get first and second pick of anyone and everyone they want in-state - and the ones they don't get go to SEC schools anyway.  UT's athletic department's NET REVENUE last year was more than TAMU's entire athletic department budget, yet all of a sudden these Texas blue chippers are gonna want to go to TAMU instead of UT or OU just because TAMU is a member of the SEC?  These blue chippers want to play FOR a good team in the SEC, not just play AGAINST a good team in the SEC.  And God bless Mike Sherman, but the Ags ain't it. 

Bottom line - I am still not sure why the Aggies think they will get any more respect in the SEC than they did in the Big12.  They will get Miss State and Kentucky kind of respect - in other words, still second class citizens.

Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on August 12, 2011, 10:24:19 AM
Nah. 
Gotta have Vandy for GPA standards alone.

True.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Saniflush on August 12, 2011, 10:25:30 AM
I think deep down they know that their prospects of winning are not increasing but there has to be some satisfaction from them knowing they are about to cut ties with tex-ass.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Tiger Wench on August 12, 2011, 10:41:12 AM
I think deep down they know that their prospects of winning are not increasing but there has to be some satisfaction from them knowing they are about to cut ties with tex-ass.

Never mind that they are going from a lion's den to a gator farm.  The mentality is DEFINITELY "Fuck you, T-sips." 
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Kaos on August 12, 2011, 11:07:22 AM
Skarbinsky verifying via twitter that Rick Perry (A&M Alum and Tex Gov.) meeting with Bentley tonight in Birmingham.  Says also, "accross the street from the SEC offices."

Sounds like it's coming.   They've GOT to have a partner in this though... I just don't see how we bring in one team and have one division run with a team short on one side.

We reach out to A&M and the SEC gets the short end of the deal here.  The Aggies can't carry their weight and other teams will have to do the lifting. 

It's not about the money.  Can't be.  Not like the SEC is broke.  Teams are already spending like crazy in a reckless arms race. 

A&M brings nothing to this wedding.  I'm definitely not toasting it. 

I really think the SEC should quit this idea immediately.  Let A&M go do its own thing on its own dime and see how many people bother to follow them. 

I don't want them.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 12, 2011, 11:11:45 AM
We reach out to A&M and the SEC gets the short end of the deal here.  The Aggies can't carry their weight and other teams will have to do the lifting. 

It's not about the money.  Can't be.  Not like the SEC is broke.  Teams are already spending like crazy in a reckless arms race. 

A&M brings nothing to this wedding.  I'm definitely not toasting it. 

I really think the SEC should quit this idea immediately.  Let A&M go do its own thing on its own dime and see how many people bother to follow them. 

I don't want them.

Agreed. 
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Godfather on August 12, 2011, 11:31:34 AM
We reach out to A&M and the SEC gets the short end of the deal here.  The Aggies can't carry their weight and other teams will have to do the lifting. 

It's not about the money.  Can't be.  Not like the SEC is broke.  Teams are already spending like crazy in a reckless arms race. 

A&M brings nothing to this wedding.  I'm definitely not toasting it. 

I really think the SEC should quit this idea immediately.  Let A&M go do its own thing on its own dime and see how many people bother to follow them. 

I don't want them.

Kaos for SEC Commissioner? On this platform..I say  :thumsup:
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 12, 2011, 11:34:50 AM
This is all for Gene Stallings.  Nothing else, besides being able to "brag" that the SEC now has 3 of Bahr Brynt's former teams as members.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on August 12, 2011, 11:43:46 AM
If A&M doesn't bring along Oklahoma, I agree. Nothing for the SEC to gain by having them in here. Except of course a really close away game for me to go to...
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Kaos on August 12, 2011, 11:51:28 AM
All I got to say is it A&M really does come over?  They better put on their big boy pants and cinch those fuckers up high and tight.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: GH2001 on August 12, 2011, 01:08:50 PM
We reach out to A&M and the SEC gets the short end of the deal here.  The Aggies can't carry their weight and other teams will have to do the lifting. 

It's not about the money.  Can't be.  Not like the SEC is broke.  Teams are already spending like crazy in a reckless arms race. 

A&M brings nothing to this wedding.  I'm definitely not toasting it. 

I really think the SEC should quit this idea immediately.  Let A&M go do its own thing on its own dime and see how many people bother to follow them. 

I don't want them.

Agreed.

They want us more than we want them. Only positive is it's a new market. But hell, so is UNC and VT.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on August 12, 2011, 01:13:00 PM
According to at least a few news sources, FSU is in talks with SEC about possibly making jump.  Would partner with Texas A&M to add 14th team to league.

Would make more sense than VT I guess.  How nasty would that Florida vs. FSU game get with THAT dynamic involved.  Sorta like those crazy fucks in Alab... wait... what?
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on August 12, 2011, 02:53:39 PM
I think a lot of this is Slive's ego.  He has guided the SEC as it became the best conference, now he wants to make it the biggest.  Now that the Pac 12 and Big 10 have jumped up to 12 team/championship game conferences he feels he needs to make another splash to set the SEC apart.  I would guess that if he could add 4 teams to the SEC (and it would take 4 to get the East vs West conference games to work out in a schedule without leaving an odd man out) he would soon after announce his retirement as he had put the other conferences in their place and made the SEC top dog competitively, financially, and territorially.

Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 12, 2011, 03:02:30 PM
I think a lot of this is Slive's ego.  He has guided the SEC as it became the best conference, now he wants to make it the biggest.  Now that the Pac 12 and Big 10 have jumped up to 12 team/championship game conferences he feels he needs to make another splash to set the SEC apart.  I would guess that if he could add 4 teams to the SEC (and it would take 4 to get the East vs West conference games to work out in a schedule without leaving an odd man out) he would soon after announce his retirement as he had put the other conferences in their place and made the SEC top dog competitively, financially, and territorially.

Agreed.  Bottom line for me is why mess with a good thing?
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: jmar on August 12, 2011, 06:10:54 PM
I think Oklahoma is the prize. Slive needs to work Pickens and if he gets OSU interested Oklahoma will listen too. Still I don't think Oklahoma wants any part of the SEC unless they feel backed into a corner. They see the PAC 12 as their safety net should things start looking grim.

 I actually like A&M in its entirety as a program but I don't like any of the eastern schools as an equal for the Aggies but FSU is probably the best choice. I like Mizzou but not w/o Oklahoma. I wouldn't mind Auburn moving to the SEC East if Oklahoma agreed and it doesn't matter about all of the panic about the rivalries (especially the IB) as all of that can be worked out to suit us.

But drawing A&M to get the Sooners is a game I like.. although it comes with some added baggage, (OSU) but I think its middle of the pack baggage at worst. If it strengthens the conference to compete in the future against the other conferences then it's a no brainer. I think Slive got a good read on the situation last year. It wouldn't surprise me if Perry had some company with him in Birmingham.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: BZ770 on August 12, 2011, 08:48:02 PM
I was 16 when Aryky and USC came over.  The first years we played them I felt like these were not on the same field as our regular SEC games.  20years later both schools have had some big games against Auburn and there is  some rivalry there.  Given time Adding extra teams will lead to some exciting football and make some new rivalries.    Especially if Auburn moved to the East and let us play UF, UT and GA every Year.
Title: Re: TAMU to SEC getting real...
Post by: jmar on August 12, 2011, 09:14:54 PM
I was 16 when Aryky and USC came over.  The first years we played them I felt like these were not on the same field as our regular SEC games.  20years later both schools have had some big games against Auburn and there is  some rivalry there.  Given time Adding extra teams will lead to some exciting football and make some new rivalries.    Especially if Auburn moved to the East and let us play UF, UT and GA every Year.
Yeah I see Arky and So.Car. as very solid. Good in other sports as well. I'm not so much in favor of an eastward move by AU but I'm not opposed to it either it's just that we don't know the paticulars. But I always enjoyed the Tennessee series and Florida became even better. And if FSU happens on the schedule, I promise you that one will instantly become a fan favorite because those Saturday night games were some of the wildest ever, as good or better than present day LSU games.