Tigers X - Number one Source to Talk Auburn Tigers Sports

Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: The Six on July 25, 2011, 01:04:57 PM

Title: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: The Six on July 25, 2011, 01:04:57 PM
Michael Dyer 2010
182 attempts   1093 yards 6.0 ypc    38 longest run  5 TDs

Trent Richardson 2010
112 attempts   700 yards     6.3 ypc   65 longest run  6 TDs

Both shared the backfield with another runner. Both played in run heavy offenses. What's the difference?
Why doesn't Dyer get the love as well? Is it just Bammer hate or what?
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: wesfau2 on July 25, 2011, 01:12:49 PM
Fuck's sake, man.  Just pick a name and go with it.
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: War Eagle!!! on July 25, 2011, 01:16:09 PM
Fuck's sake, man.  Just pick a name and go with it.

*snicker*

Michael Dyer 2010
182 attempts   1093 yards 6.0 ypc    38 longest run  5 TDs

Trent Richardson 2010
112 attempts   700 yards     6.3 ypc   65 longest run  6 TDs

Both shared the backfield with another runner. Both played in run heavy offenses. What's the difference?
Why doesn't Dyer get the love as well? Is it just Bammer hate or what?

If the love were being 100% objective, I would imagine it would have to be the "eye" test. TR looks more like the prototypical RB than Dyer does.

It should be an interesting year for Dyer. I still have my doubts that he can be a truly exceptional back. If he is able to match the stats that he did last year for this year, than I will admit that I am wrong. I hope he does, but I just don't see him having the same amount of success this year without the help of Cam.
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 25, 2011, 01:19:51 PM
Good question.  However, the SEC is absolutely loaded with top flight RB talent this year.  Throw a blanket over the top 4 IMO, Lattimore, Dyer, Richardson and Davis.  All horses.  Then you throw in the fact that UT returns a 1000 yards rusher and several other teams like MSU, OM and Auburn who had guys close to that mark....and it's clear that the SEC is going to be ground and pound this year. 

As for MD/TR....if you step back and look at the two without orange and blue or crimpsum colored glasses, I think it's fair to say that you simply can't separate the two at this point.  TR started out as the man with Ingram being injured early on, then had to share the load as Ingram worked back into playing shape.  Dyer, didn't start out as the feature back and got more and more reps as Fumbles McFannin showed he couldn't handle the spotlight. 

They're both physical freaks and both ran behind stout O-lines.  Personally, I think Dyer ran behind the best line in the country....certainly the most experienced.  Nope, Dyer isn't getting the same preseason love but this year, they both start as the #1 guy and have the chance to prove it.
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: eagleair89 on July 25, 2011, 01:20:35 PM
simple:

Trent dresses better.

Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: JR4AU on July 25, 2011, 01:22:59 PM


If the love were being 100% objective, I would imagine it would have to be the "eye" test. TR looks more like the prototypical RB than Dyer does.

It should be an interesting year for Dyer. I still have my doubts that he can be a truly exceptional back. If he is able to match the stats that he did last year for this year, than I will admit that I am wrong. I hope he does, but I just don't see him having the same amount of success this year without the help of Cam.

I think I would have to say that I sort of agree, except to say that I think he's not getting the love because most think he was a product of Cam's existence, not the eye test, though that may factor in. 

And, the offense will change somewhat without the mobility of Cam, so he'll have to carry more of the load.  His YPC will decline, but I think he can be effective, if not a star.   
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: JR4AU on July 25, 2011, 01:23:42 PM
simple:

Trent dresses better.

Thanks to Tom, and T Town Menswear. 
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 25, 2011, 01:25:21 PM
I think Malzahn's system alone will get Dyer and OMac their yards....as long as we get half way decent play from our line.  Dyer may have benefitted from Cam but who did Tate benefit from? 
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: AUTiger1 on July 25, 2011, 01:27:08 PM
I think Malzahn's system alone will get Dyer and OMac their yards....as long as we get half way decent play from our line.  Dyer may have benefitted from Cam but who did Tate benefit from?

Chris Todd, duh?
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 25, 2011, 01:28:59 PM
Chris Todd, duh?

That boy had magic feet
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: War Eagle!!! on July 25, 2011, 01:29:47 PM
I think Malzahn's system alone will get Dyer and OMac their yards....as long as we get half way decent play from our line.  Dyer may have benefitted from Cam but who did Tate benefit from?

Tate>Dyer
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 25, 2011, 01:35:28 PM
Tate>Dyer

Hard to say.  Tate didn't blow up until his senior year.  Dyer was just a young pup in 2010.  Time will tell....O N E lovelly game at a time.
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: AWK on July 25, 2011, 01:38:11 PM
Tate>Dyer
Tate>Dyer>Auburn Basketball>Duke Basketball.
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: AUTiger1 on July 25, 2011, 01:45:12 PM
Tate>Dyer>Auburn Basketball>Duke Basketball.

Exactly!
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: JR4AU on July 25, 2011, 01:45:22 PM
Tate>Dyer

Probably.  Again, though, I think Dyer will be ok. 
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: GH2001 on July 25, 2011, 02:31:29 PM
Dyer 1
Trent 0
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: jmar on July 25, 2011, 11:34:12 PM
I think Ware might outshine all in rushing yards. IMO, LSU has the best line in the SEC.

If you like a feature back, Lattimore is your man.

But if you want a big-fast tandem, it's Knile Davis and Ronnie Wingo. Davis can catch as well as Lat and Wingo is faster.

It will be impossible for Dyer and OMac to make up Cam's 1400+ rushing yards which is why I think we see the "Wildcat." I'm hoping for Toddlike numbers out of the Auburn QB(s). Even that's a tall order.

Bama will go back to a controlled run game with Richardson and Lacy while mixing play-action as in '09.
   

   
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: The Prowler on July 26, 2011, 06:57:22 AM
Dyer or Lacy?
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: Saniflush on July 26, 2011, 07:09:14 AM
Stop me if I'm wrong Sandy but isn't Richardson gonna have to be eligible for that to happen?
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: No Huddle on July 26, 2011, 10:08:09 PM
Cam was so..........I am sure Trent will be.
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: JR4AU on July 27, 2011, 12:15:45 AM
Cam was so..........I am sure Trent will be.

He didn't know he was wearing free suits from Tom?  Great defense. 
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: The Prowler on July 27, 2011, 12:20:17 AM
He didn't know he was wearing free suits from Tom?  Great defense. 
He also didn't know that he was going out to eat with a uat Booster.....nor did he know that the jerseys that he was signing (the ones that had price tags on them) would be for sell...out in front of the store.
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: No Huddle on July 27, 2011, 01:28:56 PM
I mean if he didn't know he didn't know.
Title: Re: Michael Dyer vs. Trent Richardson
Post by: The Prowler on July 27, 2011, 08:14:59 PM
He also didn't know about one more thing...one thing in particular.  I can't remember what that one thing is, but I do remember that it would make the free tailor made suits, dinners with boosters and signing jerseys that were for sale at the Kiosk right outside of the Booster's business establishment, look like a tiny blip on NCAA's radar screen.