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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on April 13, 2011, 01:33:26 PM
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BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- Former Auburn football player Chaz Ramsey said today he will meet with the NCAA early next week following allegations made on HBO's "Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel" that players received cash payments at Auburn.
Ramsey made charges on HBO that he received money handshakes after games and sold complimentary game tickets. Ramsey had been reluctant to speak with the NCAA because Auburn's attorneys requested to be present for the interview.
Ramsey said today Auburn won't be represented at the NCAA interview and that the information he provides won't be disclosed to the school.
"I wouldn't like Auburn to be there," Ramsey said. "The NCAA wanted to talk to me, so the NCAA is going to talk to me."
When asked if he knows names of boosters or coaches who provided payments to Auburn players, Ramsey replied, "I may." He declined to elaborate.
Two weeks ago, Ramsey told The Birmingham News he received handshakes with $200 to $300 after at least three games in 2007. Ramsey said then that he did not know who the people were paying him or whether Auburn coaches knew of the payments. He said he later learned by talking to teammates that cash payments were "pretty much common knowledge."
Earlier this month, former Auburn player Stanley McClover told The South Florida Sun Sentinel that he spoke with a representative of the NCAA enforcement staff after telling HBO that boosters gave him money while he played for the Tigers. McClover told the newspaper he didn't reveal the names of the boosters.
Two other former players, Troy Reddick and Raven Gray, made similar allegations to HBO. It's not known if Reddick, who alleged an Auburn coach was involved in a payment, and Gray have talked to the NCAA or plan to do so.
Auburn Athletics Director Jay Jacobs said in a statement after the accusations aired that HBO confirmed no proof of the claims being true but Auburn would use outside counsel and "spare no resources to find the truth." Auburn coach Gene Chizik dismissed the claims as "pure garbage," and some former players rallied to the school's defense to say they were never paid.
Ramsey lost a lawsuit in February against a former Auburn head athletic trainer accused of mismanaging Ramsey's rehab from back surgery.
Ramsey, who plans to graduate from Auburn, said he is now back home in Mississippi. He said he's still taking classes while being off campus and hasn't heard much reaction since the HBO show aired.
"I've been talking to my good friends," he said. "They tend to agree with what I said, what I did. Of course, you have the Auburn fans on the message boards that are going to talk about stuff they have no clue about. That's just normal."
Ramsey also said he is done speaking with the media.
"I'm going to talk to the NCAA sometime next week," he said, "and I'm going to leave it at that."
E-mail: jsolomon@bhamnews.com
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/04/former_auburn_player_chaz_rams.html
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Counter punch.
Mr. Lee...you're up.
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Names of "hundred dollar handshakers?" Big fuckin' deal! His word against theirs.
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Names of "hundred dollar handshakers?" Big fuckin' deal! His word against theirs.
"Mr. White gave me $100 for chop blocking Glenn Dorsey!"
"No I didn't. Deuces! I'm out, bitch."
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"Mr. White gave me $100 for chop blocking Glenn Dorsey!"
"No I didn't. Deuces! I'm out, bitch."
*snicker*
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Ramsey said today Auburn won't be represented at the NCAA interview and that the information he provides won't be disclosed to the school.
Three possibilities here:
1) Unadulterated bullshit
2) It doesn't matter what he says, because unless what he says is disclosed, the school can't investigate nor can it respond to any allegations he might make.
3) He's a dumbass.
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"Mr. White gave me $100 for chop blocking Glenn Dorsey!"
"No I didn't. Deuces! I'm out, bitch."
Pretty much. Has to be proven. It won't.
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Very interesting that this was written by Jon Solomon and not Charles Goldberg.
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Very interesting that this was written by Jon Solomon and not Charles Goldberg.
+1
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Three possibilities here:
1) Unadulterated bullshit
2) It doesn't matter what he says, because unless what he says is disclosed, the school can't investigate nor can it respond to any allegations he might make.
3) He's a dumbass.
3 is rock solid.
1 is possible
2 doesnt matter with no way to prove the allegations, or that Auburn knew.
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Very interesting that this was written by Jon Solomon and not Charles Goldberg.
Ed Zachary. See my counter-punch statement above.
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Axe to grind. His statements are crap before he starts.
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Axe to grind. His statements are crap before he starts.
Objectively speaking, an axe to grind can be as much a motivation to expose the truth as much as it can be to manufacture a lie.
Here's the thing though. He can name names. The allegations don't lend themselves to being proved. How can you prove a hundred dollar handshake even if it happened? Secondly, the NCAA really is only concerned with this stuff if it's pervasive, and the University/Coaching staff has knowledge or reason to know and it turning a blind eye. The only way a program can be held accountable is if they knew, or should have known, and didn't report it. Two prongs: Eligibility and Enforcement. People forget they're two different things. The fact that a huge number of former players are ready to step up and call bullshit on the HBO 4's allegations tends to indicate it's at least not pervasive even if Ramsey and company are being truthful, which, again, doesn't lend itself to being proved.
So, unless Ramsey drops a bombshell about some guy giving him a traceable amount of money, and it can be verified through forensic accounting, or he has some proof that the coaching staff was directly involved in providing benefits, neither of which he's alleged publically...it's much adieu about nothing really. Let him talk. It amounts to throwing a fit for not getting his way.
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Objectively speaking, an axe to grind can be as much a motivation to expose the truth as much as it can be to manufacture a lie.
Here's the thing though. He can name names. The allegations don't lend themselves to being proved. How can you prove a hundred dollar handshake even if it happened? Secondly, the NCAA really is only concerned with this stuff if it's pervasive, and the University/Coaching staff has knowledge or reason to know and it turning a blind eye. The only way a program can be held accountable is if they knew, or should have known, and didn't report it. Two prongs: Eligibility and Enforcement. People forget they're two different things. The fact that a huge number of former players are ready to step up and call bullshit on the HBO 4's allegations tends to indicate it's at least not pervasive even if Ramsey and company are being truthful, which, again, doesn't lend itself to being proved.
So, unless Ramsey drops a bombshell about some guy giving him a traceable amount of money, and it can be verified through forensic accounting, or he has some proof that the coaching staff was directly involved in providing benefits, neither of which he's alleged publically...it's much adieu about nothing really. Let him talk. It amounts to throwing a fit for not getting his way.
All I have to say in response to this is........
(http://files.sharenator.com/Slow_Clap_I_dont_care-s420x315-139732-535.gif)
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Objectively speaking, an axe to grind can be as much a motivation to expose the truth as much as it can be to manufacture a lie.
Here's the thing though. He can name names. The allegations don't lend themselves to being proved. How can you prove a hundred dollar handshake even if it happened? Secondly, the NCAA really is only concerned with this stuff if it's pervasive, and the University/Coaching staff has knowledge or reason to know and it turning a blind eye. The only way a program can be held accountable is if they knew, or should have known, and didn't report it. Two prongs: Eligibility and Enforcement. People forget they're two different things. The fact that a huge number of former players are ready to step up and call bullpoop on the HBO 4's allegations tends to indicate it's at least not pervasive even if Ramsey and company are being truthful, which, again, doesn't lend itself to being proved.
So, unless Ramsey drops a bombshell about some guy giving him a traceable amount of money, and it can be verified through forensic accounting, or he has some proof that the coaching staff was directly involved in providing benefits, neither of which he's alleged publically...it's much adieu about nothing really. Let him talk. It amounts to throwing a fit for not getting his way.
I think we were both trying to say it does not matter what he says
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I think we were both trying to say it does not matter what he says
I used a shitload more words, so I look smarter. :poke:
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I used a shitload more words, so I look smarter. :poke:
It's not really working.
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Can I say I agree with both statements above?