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Title: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: The Prowler on April 11, 2011, 05:32:02 PM
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"I then asked him, 'What about your dad, have you told Peaches?' He said, 'I've told him, but he won't listen to me. He's telling me that I'm going to mess everything up, that I can't do it, that I can't go to Auburn.'"
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 11, 2011, 05:42:34 PM
Which can be interpreted in many different ways.

"You love Bama.  You can't go to Auburn.  You'll mess everything up."

"You're a genuine NFL linebacker prospect.  Nick Saban is the best defensive mind in football, and he is your best shot at getting into the league some day.  You can't go to Auburn.  You'll mess everything up."

"Your whole family loves Alabama.  You love Alabama.  I know you had a great time at Auburn, and I know you really respect the coaching staff.  Really, both schools and coaching staffs are great choices.  But think of your family's love for Alabama.  Think of your own.  You can't go to Auburn.  You'll mess everything up."

"We have a deal with a major Alabama booster.  We don't get the money and the jobs unless you sign with Alabama.  You can't go to Auburn.  You'll mess everything up."


Now, to be fair.  I have heard the rumor that JLee is going to go about this like a chapter book.  The next story should reveal more.  But that's just a rumor.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: The Prowler on April 11, 2011, 05:51:22 PM
It's sounding more like "peaches" has a deal with a couple boosters and that if Brent goes to Auburn, that deal falls through. Remember, Auburn didn't want to deal with "peaches", because they knew he was shady.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 11, 2011, 05:53:21 PM
It's sounding more like "peaches" has a deal with a couple boosters and that if Brent goes to Auburn, that deal falls through. Remember, Auburn didn't want to deal with "peaches", because they knew he was shady.

It only sounds like that because that's what you want to believe. 

Auburn may have not wanted to deal with Peaches because Peaches was a blowhard Alabama fan who discredited everything the coaching staff said to Calloway.  Not illegal.  Just obnoxious.

I'm only playing devil's advocate here, but none of this banter is going to go anywhere.  A money trail.  Some text messages.  Emails.  Video tapes.  Recorded confessions.  Those get somewhere.  All of this?  So far -  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: djsimp on April 11, 2011, 07:05:02 PM
If anything is to come of this, I think it will be Woodruffs connection; not so much Peaches but that would be a double +.

Got this from another site. NCAA says a booster is:

* An individual who is a member of the institution's athletics booster club.

* An individual who has made financial contributions to the booster club or the Athletic Department.

* An individual who is involved in providing benefits (e.g. summer jobs) to prospects or enrolled student-athletes.

* An individual who has been otherwise involved in promoting the University's athletic programs  (i.e. buying season tickets).

* Has been requested by the athletics department staff to assist in the recruitment of prospective student athletes
   or is assisting in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes;

Is that about right?
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: The Prowler on April 11, 2011, 07:21:36 PM
Definitely Woodruff is the key...him and the car dealer guy that Mr. Woodruff purchased 20 cars from in 13 years.  Peaches has a deal with a booster or two, it's just going to take a little time to prove it, if possible.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: JR4AU on April 11, 2011, 08:03:53 PM
If anything is to come of this, I think it will be Woodruffs connection; not so much Peaches but that would be a double +.

Got this from another site. NCAA says a booster is:

* An individual who is a member of the institution's athletics booster club.

* An individual who has made financial contributions to the booster club or the Athletic Department.

* An individual who is involved in providing benefits (e.g. summer jobs) to prospects or enrolled student-athletes.

* An individual who has been otherwise involved in promoting the University's athletic programs  (i.e. buying season tickets).

* Has been requested by the athletics department staff to assist in the recruitment of prospective student athletes
   or is assisting in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes;

Is that about right?


Bammer, coincidentally has a lot of "fans" that are not also boosters.  I don't know if you call someone who has never been to Tuscaloser, or Bryant-Dummy a "booster" just because he has to replace his bammer hat once a year due to oil buildup.   This Woodruff character could be a booster, or not, and could also be an agent or "street agent" by his actions.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: The Prowler on April 11, 2011, 08:27:51 PM
So, rws is definitely not a booster?
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: RWS on April 11, 2011, 08:44:45 PM
"The money was too much".

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: JR4AU on April 11, 2011, 08:45:32 PM
So, rws is definitely not a booster?

You're quick.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: JR4AU on April 11, 2011, 08:50:07 PM
"The money was too much".

 :popcorn:

A: nobody has ever been produced that claims to have actually heard that, and it's been reported at various times to have been said to "a recruiter", a coach, and Megan Mullen.  It's also been reported to have been recorded.  Nobody has ever produced that recording.   This statement by BC is being attributed to him by the person that heard him say it.

B: Even that phrase allegedly said by Cam, alone, can have different meanings without the context of the conversation, as can this one said by BC.

You can put your popcorn away. 
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: RWS on April 11, 2011, 09:01:00 PM
A: nobody has ever been produced that claims to have actually heard that, and it's been reported at various times to have been said to "a recruiter", a coach, and Megan Mullen.  It's also been reported to have been recorded.  Nobody has ever produced that recording.   This statement by BC is being attributed to him by the person that heard him say it.

B: Even that phrase allegedly said by Cam, alone, can have different meanings without the context of the conversation, as can this one said by BC.

You can put your popcorn away.
Which was exactly my point. Supposedly Woodruff told this Stancil guy the "mess everything up" quote. Stancil never said he heard BC say it. Stancil's whole account is on what Woodruff supposedly told him. Correct me if I'm wrong there, as I was reading on my phone when I saw the article. My main point was to show context of conversation, and the hearsay factor.

From what I understand, this Stancil guy is a sidewalk AU fan. That's according to two people on an Alabama board who supposedly know him; so, TIFWIW. If Woodruff did something illegal, I just don't see him sitting down telling some AU homer all the ins and outs of exactly what he did. And if Stancil were an Alabama fan, I don't see him coughing any of this up to an AU site either.

Bottom line, Woodruff's relationship with BC was pre-existing to the time that BC became a major recruit. He isn't a booster. Unless he kidnapped BC to take him to Alabama games, and kidnapped him, took him to Pensacola, and held a gun to his head to force an LOI to Alabama.....you got nothing. Nobody has shown anything about boosters paying off Peaches' mortgage, paying him or an agent cash, cars, etc. At this point it's some AU fan telling an AU writer what he was supposedly told by Woodruff.

Shit, I'm going to go tell Chris Walsh that Cecil Newton told me that AU paid $500,000 for Cam Newton. I mean, that's legit, right?
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: The Prowler on April 11, 2011, 10:38:38 PM
Which was exactly my point. Supposedly Woodruff told this Stancil guy the "mess everything up" quote. Stancil never said he heard BC say it. Stancil's whole account is on what Woodruff supposedly told him. Correct me if I'm wrong there, as I was reading on my phone when I saw the article. My main point was to show context of conversation, and the hearsay factor.

From what I understand, this Stancil guy is a sidewalk AU fan. That's according to two people on an Alabama board who supposedly know him; so, TIFWIW. If Woodruff did something illegal, I just don't see him sitting down telling some AU homer all the ins and outs of exactly what he did. And if Stancil were an Alabama fan, I don't see him coughing any of this up to an AU site either.

Bottom line, Woodruff's relationship with BC was pre-existing to the time that BC became a major recruit. He isn't a booster. Unless he kidnapped BC to take him to Alabama games, and kidnapped him, took him to Pensacola, and held a gun to his head to force an LOI to Alabama.....you got nothing. Nobody has shown anything about boosters paying off Peaches' mortgage, paying him or an agent cash, cars, etc. At this point it's some AU fan telling an AU writer what he was supposedly told by Woodruff.

Shit, I'm going to go tell Chris Walsh that Cecil Newton told me that AU paid $500,000 for Cam Newton. I mean, that's legit, right?
Wrong, that quote was from Brent Calloway to his HS Coach Coach Goodwin...Facts and shit.

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According to Goodwin, Calloway knew before committing to Auburn that Peaches might
not be in full support of his decision.

"Brent told me Thursday night when I got to Texas (for the All-America Bowl) that he was going to
decommit from Alabama and announce he was going to Auburn," said Goodwin. "I said, 'Are you sure?'
He said, 'Yes.' I said, 'Have you told the Alabama coaches?' He said, 'No.' I said, 'Well, you need to call
(then-Alabama recruiting coordinator Curt) Cignetti and tell him before he sees it on T.V.'
"I then asked him, 'What about your dad? Have you told Peaches?' He said, 'I've told him, but he won't
listen to me. He's telling me that I'm going to mess everything up, that I can't do it, that I can't go to Auburn.'"
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 11, 2011, 10:59:47 PM
Bammer, coincidentally has a lot of "fans" that are not also boosters.  I don't know if you call someone who has never been to Tuscaloser, or Bryant-Dummy a "booster" just because he has to replace his bammer hat once a year due to oil buildup.   This Woodruff character could be a booster, or not, and could also be an agent or "street agent" by his actions.

It's shady as shit and stupid as Shaun Kitchens considering Bama is in the repeat violator period of their most recent probation. 

But alas, their sidewalk domination may prove to help them out in the long run.  Need to get a recruit?  Send one of the crazy-ass Cowboy-type Shanes to run and buy the recruit.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: The Prowler on April 11, 2011, 11:49:53 PM
It's shady as shit and stupid as Shaun Kitchens considering Bama is in the repeat-peat repeat violator period of their most recent probation. 

But alas, their sidewalk domination may prove to help them out in the long run.  Need to get a recruit?  Send one of the crazy-ass Cowboy-type Shanes to run and buy the recruit.
Fixed
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: Birmigham on April 12, 2011, 12:24:12 AM
HAHAHAHAH  Like you cock suckers should be saying a damn thing about cheating.  You should shut your mother efftool sucking pie wholes and thank God you got off scott free.  But you can't do it, which is why you'll burn.

Each of you used effed up tramps deserve it.  You're the dirt of the world.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: The Prowler on April 12, 2011, 02:35:50 AM
HAHAHAHAH  Like you cock suckers should be saying a damn thing about cheating.  You should shut your mother efftool sucking pie wholes and thank God you got off scott free.  But you can't do it, which is why you'll burn.

Each of you used effed up tramps deserve it.  You're the dirt of the world.
Funny...I remember you posting that exact same thing on another topic.  Can't come up with anything better?
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: djsimp on April 12, 2011, 09:09:36 AM
Funny...I remember you posting that exact same thing on another topic.  Can't come up with anything better?

At least he is trying. He has figured the copy paste mechanism.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: GH2001 on April 12, 2011, 09:38:32 AM
Which can be interpreted in many different ways.

"You love Bama.  You can't go to Auburn.  You'll mess everything up."

"You're a genuine NFL linebacker prospect.  Nick Saban is the best defensive mind in football, and he is your best shot at getting into the league some day.  You can't go to Auburn.  You'll mess everything up."

"Your whole family loves Alabama.  You love Alabama.  I know you had a great time at Auburn, and I know you really respect the coaching staff.  Really, both schools and coaching staffs are great choices.  But think of your family's love for Alabama.  Think of your own.  You can't go to Auburn.  You'll mess everything up."


"We have a deal with a major Alabama booster.  We don't get the money and the jobs unless you sign with Alabama.  You can't go to Auburn.  You'll mess everything up."


Now, to be fair.  I have heard the rumor that JLee is going to go about this like a chapter book.  The next story should reveal more.  But that's just a rumor.
Only the last one makes sense in the context. The bolded make no sense.  Brent wanted to play RB. Not playing RB would have messed it up. And the other 2 would not have made sense. Brent loves Alabama? Yeah, so much he really didn't wanna go there. Sorry, but only the 4th one makes complete sense and I'm really steering down the path of objectivity here.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: GH2001 on April 12, 2011, 09:41:15 AM
"The money was too much".

 :popcorn:

Are you redneck homos ever going to actually provide some credible evidence that this was actually said???? This is some bullshit quote your buddies on TS along with Shane and Scottie Moorehead perpetuated that was never proven. Do better than that.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: No Huddle on April 12, 2011, 11:16:30 AM
What happened?
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 12, 2011, 11:36:57 AM
Only the last one makes sense in the context. The bolded make no sense.  Brent wanted to play RB. Not playing RB would have messed it up. And the other 2 would not have made sense. Brent loves Alabama? Yeah, so much he really didn't wanna go there. Sorry, but only the 4th one makes complete sense and I'm really steering down the path of objectivity here.

No you're not. 

It's 100% influenced by what you want to happen. 

We don't know "what" Calloway would have messed up.  We're left to interpret it however we feel, which the NCAA won't use in determining if a violation occurred.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: JR4AU on April 12, 2011, 11:46:38 AM
No you're not. 

It's 100% influenced by what you want to happen. 

We don't know "what" Calloway would have messed up.  We're left to interpret it however we feel, which the NCAA won't use in determining if a violation occurred.

THS, the wording is suspicious.  Surely you can admit that?   I don't know what it means.  But taken at face value, it indicates there's something in place, something beyond the hopes and dreams of his family member, something tangible that will be fouled up by BC going to Alabama.  Does it absolutely mean that?  No, but on it's face it seems to indicate that. 

That suspicion grows when you view the lengths that Peaches went to to make sure his son went where Peaches wanted him to go, not where BC said he wanted to go.   

It grows even more when you factor in a grown business man, that is a huge bammer "supporter", that cultivates such a relationship with a HS Fr. that assists Peaches in getting him to and from Tuscaloser, and then secreting him away from Auburn (and any other school recruiting him).
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: djsimp on April 12, 2011, 12:05:27 PM
THS, the wording is suspicious.  Surely you can admit that?   I don't know what it means.  But taken at face value, it indicates there's something in place, something beyond the hopes and dreams of his family member, something tangible that will be fouled up by BC going to Alabama.  Does it absolutely mean that?  No, but on it's face it seems to indicate that. 

That suspicion grows when you view the lengths that Peaches went to to make sure his son went where Peaches wanted him to go, not where BC said he wanted to go.   

It grows even more when you factor in a grown business man, that is a huge bammer "supporter", that cultivates such a relationship with a HS Fr. that assists Peaches in getting him to and from Tuscaloser, and then secreting him away from Auburn (and any other school recruiting him).

^THIS X 100! All of it!

This is where the situation is at. There is a lot of suspicion, rightly so I might add, but nothing absolute at this point and we all know that. I still think J Lee has some goods and he hasn't told everything yet. Will it amount to anything, hell nobody knows but I do think that when all info is out there the NCAA will have to take a look themselves. Lets face it, that is the only time any of this will matter. 

I would like to add too that I do agree with THS when he said anyone of our teams being on NCAA probation is unhealthy for CFB, and we all love our football especially SEC football. With that said though, after this last year that Auburn has faced and being dragged through the mud I can't help but feel the desire for bama to really feel the heat on this one. There are many out there, some on this very site, that could prove the bammers led the witch hunt during the whole fiasco last year. Payback is a bitch.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: No Huddle on April 12, 2011, 12:19:50 PM
So some white dude took Brent to P'cola? That seems kinda ghey or is that just me.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: AUChizad on April 12, 2011, 12:30:49 PM
So some white dude took Brent to P'cola? That seems kinda ghey or is that just me.
Kinda like some old white dude taking some young black boys on a fishing trip...
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: No Huddle on April 12, 2011, 01:06:07 PM
Kinda like some old white dude taking some young black boys on a fishing trip...

That sounds ghey there also. Maybe the real story is the ghey.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: GH2001 on April 12, 2011, 01:21:27 PM
No you're not. 

It's 100% influenced by what you want to happen. 

We don't know "what" Calloway would have messed up.  We're left to interpret it however we feel, which the NCAA won't use in determining if a violation occurred.
Ummm.. Yes I am. Don't tell me what I'm fucking thinking. Looking at this from the outside, that is the only one that remotely makes sense. The second one - possibly, but not as likely. You are really reaching on the other two. And no, we don't know what they were thinking when that was said. Its all a guess really.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 12, 2011, 01:30:01 PM
THS, the wording is suspicious.  Surely you can admit that?   I don't know what it means.  But taken at face value, it indicates there's something in place, something beyond the hopes and dreams of his family member, something tangible that will be fouled up by BC going to Alabama.  Does it absolutely mean that?  No, but on it's face it seems to indicate that. 

That suspicion grows when you view the lengths that Peaches went to to make sure his son went where Peaches wanted him to go, not where BC said he wanted to go.   

It grows even more when you factor in a grown business man, that is a huge bammer "supporter", that cultivates such a relationship with a HS Fr. that assists Peaches in getting him to and from Tuscaloser, and then secreting him away from Auburn (and any other school recruiting him).

It's 100% suspicious. 

And please don't take my devil's advocate stance as one that believes Bama is in the clear.  I'm just trying to show that nothing that's out there proves anything.  Or least, nothing that's out there is good enough to get the NCAA acting.  And it's definitely not enough to get Bama hammered. 

That's all I'm trying to show.  It's apparent Bama cheated to get Calloway.  Maybe the athletic department wasn't part of it, but it's obvious people connected to Alabama (fans, boosters, supporters, whatever) got Calloway. 
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 12, 2011, 01:32:35 PM
Ummm.. Yes I am. Don't tell me what I'm fucking thinking. Looking at this from the outside, that is the only one that remotely makes sense. The second one - possibly, but not as likely. You are really reaching on the other two. And no, we don't know what they were thinking when that was said. Its all a guess really.

You said you weren't thinking.  You were positing an objective fact that the first three were impossible and the last one was the only logical conclusion. 

"Mess things up" is also not specific to Peaches.  According to the quote, Calloway is simply going to mess everything up.  For himself?  For his family?  For his career?  For Peaches? 

I can't tell.  We can speculate.  But we can't use the word "objective" at this point.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: RWS on April 12, 2011, 03:16:02 PM
It grows even more when you factor in a grown business man, that is a huge bammer "supporter", that cultivates such a relationship with a HS Fr. that assists Peaches in getting him to and from Tuscaloser, and then secreting him away from Auburn (and any other school recruiting him).
Is that sort of like a coach who tries to keep a recruit away from Alabama, but will make him available as possible and bend over backwards for Auburn when that coach is coincidentally an Auburn fan? Hm. At this point, I'm not putting much stock in what Stancil or the coach says. Both are AU fans, so they're not very neutral. The fact that Alabama doesn't even plan on filing a report with the NCAA tells me something.

The NCAA knows this stuff is floating around. You're an idiot if you think they don't. If Alabama found any inclination of wrongdoing, I would think we would get the NCAA involved. I really don't think our compliance department would be stupid enough to know something went down with such allegations floating around, and not be cooperative, and then expect it to just go away. Especially when it's in a relative grey area. Alabama knows that if something went on, and they said it didn't and didn't self report, and then the NCAA came in and found out on their own, we would be assraped 6 ways from Sunday.

Knowing that Alabama chose not to file a report with the NCAA makes me feel a little more comfortable with the situation. Why would you file a report on something that did not take place? If the NCAA decides to take a look on their own (I think there is a good possibility of this happening), I think that would be great too. Not really worried about it.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: JR4AU on April 12, 2011, 03:23:27 PM
Is that sort of like a coach who tries to keep a recruit away from Alabama, but will make him available as possible and bend over backwards for Auburn when that coach is coincidentally an Auburn fan? Hm. At this point, I'm not putting much stock in what Stancil or the coach says. Both are AU fans, so they're not very neutral. The fact that Alabama doesn't even plan on filing a report with the NCAA tells me something.

The NCAA knows this stuff is floating around. You're an idiot if you think they don't. If Alabama found any inclination of wrongdoing, I would think we would get the NCAA involved. I really don't think our compliance department would be stupid enough to know something went down with such allegations floating around, and not be cooperative, and then expect it to just go away. Especially when it's in a relative grey area. Alabama knows that if something went on, and they said it didn't and didn't self report, and then the NCAA came in and found out on their own, we would be assraped 6 ways from Sunday.

Knowing that Alabama chose not to file a report with the NCAA makes me feel a little more comfortable with the situation. Why would you file a report on something that did not take place? If the NCAA decides to take a look on their own (I think there is a good possibility of this happening), I think that would be great too. Not really worried about it.

RWS, it's not just Auburn folks that are calling bullshit on this so called investigation that took only 48 hours or less to get people on the ground in Russelville, "investigate" (whatever that entails), get back to Turndville, pour over the mounds of information they must have obtained, have a finding of "we all good" and report it offcially.

I suspect that the NCAA will likely stand just as unimpressed as us Barners are...along with other more objective people saying the same things.  IMHO, bammer brought a lot of this extra stink on themselves by doing that.  Had they announced they were investigating it, and never said another word, it may have had far less fallout.  May still amount to nothing more than a popcorn fart, but it looks like, um, what was the popular catch phrase the bammers used so much during the Cam saga that it almost made me vomit?  Oh yea "Bammer is thumbing their noses at the NCAA".
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: War Eagle!!! on April 12, 2011, 03:34:49 PM
Maybe the real story is the ghey.

Very underrated post...
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: RWS on April 12, 2011, 04:48:52 PM
After reading BC's interview on TideSports, I feel even better about this whole thing.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on April 12, 2011, 04:56:31 PM
After reading BC's interview on TideSports, I feel even better about this whole thing.

Ive heard lies told by kids whove done shit they shouldnt have before.  The stories are well rehearsed, and usually offer up innecessary detail and commentary.   Im not saying, im just sayin'.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 12, 2011, 04:58:25 PM
After reading BC's interview on TideSports, I feel even better about this whole thing.

Why? 

You've been attempting to be level-headed about this story.  But jumping on the BC interview is not level-headed.  It's homerish.

So the accused comes out and says, "Don't worry.  All is well." 

How does that resolve anything? 
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: Kaos on April 12, 2011, 04:59:10 PM
You're an idiot if you think they don't. If Alabama found any inclination of wrongdoing, I would think we would get the NCAA involved. I really don't think our compliance department would be stupid enough to know something went down with such allegations floating around, and not be cooperative, and then expect it to just go away.

Albert Means, Mal Moore, Gene Stallings, Antione Caldwell, Nick Saban, Glen Coffee, Marlon Davis, Marquis Johnson, Chris Rogers, Julio Jones, Mark Ingram, a fisherman, Marcel Dareus, a laptop, some players at UNC and some shortys in Miami all had this to say:

 :haha:
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: RWS on April 12, 2011, 05:08:56 PM
Why? 

You've been attempting to be level-headed about this story.  But jumping on the BC interview is not level-headed.  It's homerish.

So the accused comes out and says, "Don't worry.  All is well." 

How does that resolve anything?
It doesn't mean it is absolute, but at least it is something from the horse's mouth. Like I said, I feel better about it. I would still like the NCAA to take a look, though. No matter what, if Alabama comes out clear in all of this, there will always be some reason coming from the Auburn side. We paid the NCAA. We paid witnesses. Etc, etc.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 12, 2011, 05:14:28 PM
It doesn't mean it is absolute, but at least it is something from the horse's mouth. Like I said, I feel better about it. I would still like the NCAA to take a look, though. No matter what, if Alabama comes out clear in all of this, there will always be some reason coming from the Auburn side. We paid the NCAA. We paid witnesses. Etc, etc.

The horse's mouth?  The horse was speaking to its jockey not its trainer. 

One thing I will give you - Calloway was allowed to speak to the media.  Is he on campus yet?  If not, then nevermind.  If so, then Saban must be real comfortable about it all to allow Calloway to do an interview.   
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: RWS on April 12, 2011, 05:17:58 PM
The horse's mouth?  The horse was speaking to its jockey not its trainer. 

One thing I will give you - Calloway was allowed to speak to the media.  Is he on campus yet?  If not, then nevermind.  If so, then Saban must be real comfortable about it all to allow Calloway to do an interview.
I don't think he is on campus. But, I would imagine that he would have had to talk to Saban before doing an interview on something of this magnitude.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: JR4AU on April 12, 2011, 05:19:43 PM
The Finebaum and Shane crowd are putting all this on Coach Goodwin.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: RWS on April 12, 2011, 06:05:27 PM
The Finebaum and Shane crowd are putting all this on Coach Goodwin.
I think this is simply one big clusterfuck that hurt everybody's feelings. BC's dad wanted him to go to Alabama. BC's coach wanted him to go to Auburn. Each did their own thing to ensure he was going to do what they wanted. Neither really seems like they handled it the way it should have been done. Nobody really took into consideration what exactly BC wanted. I don't even know that he knew what he wanted, for that matter. And that just adds fuel to each side's fire, because they're going to try and convince him of what's best for him. Maybe I'm totally off on the whole thing. I don't know which side is "at fault", but it seems some people want to live vicariously through BC.

Just my .02
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: JR4AU on April 12, 2011, 06:22:02 PM
I think this is simply one big clusterfuck that hurt everybody's feelings. BC's dad wanted him to go to Alabama. BC's coach wanted him to go to Auburn. Each did their own thing to ensure he was going to do what they wanted. Neither really seems like they handled it the way it should have been done. Nobody really took into consideration what exactly BC wanted. I don't even know that he knew what he wanted, for that matter. And that just adds fuel to each side's fire, because they're going to try and convince him of what's best for him. Maybe I'm totally off on the whole thing. I don't know which side is "at fault", but it seems some people want to live vicariously through BC.

Just my .02

That's all well and good.  A pushy father isn't anything new.  A HS coach shouldn't steer a player to or from any university.  He should assist him, but stay very clear from offering an opinion.   That said, it's not against the rules to simply offer the suggestions, advice, and even tell the player that would be your wish that he go here or there.  Not the right thing to do, but not against any rules.   We all know some coaches have even worked there way in to college jobs through having a sought after player. 

But the issue here is the Woodruff character, his status as a booster, his relationship with BC, and his involvement in his recruitment.  The rest of what you say, while accurate, is a smoke screen in all this.  Without Woodruff, there are no questions or issues.   
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: The Prowler on April 12, 2011, 06:56:45 PM
So, rws, the part of BC's interview about him wanting a car and that since this got brought up (3 days after he "test drove" a car), the car was taken away, and now BC isn't happy that his Camaro got taken away.  Is that what made you feel all warm inside?
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: RWS on April 12, 2011, 09:44:15 PM
So, rws, the part of BC's interview about him wanting a car and that since this got brought up (3 days after he "test drove" a car), the car was taken away, and now BC isn't happy that his Camaro got taken away.  Is that what made you feel all warm inside?
I haven't seen where anybody is saying BC got a car except you and Chizad. You were the one going on and on in February about Woodruff getting a Camaro. See thread: "Brent Calloway's handler has a new ride... " and posted the screenshot from Facebook. Wait, that was eerily similar to the picture of Corey Lemonier's picture on Facebook of him in front of his house sitting in that yellow Corvette. Hmmmmmm. Sounds like somebody needs to look into this Lemonier guy.  :taunt:

Anyway, Lee's story doesn't even mention the car. TideSports had the sense to ask the direct question because of this shit being floated on AU boards that the car was actually BC's. BC's point in that interview was that he can't get a car now, because even if he got a 25 year old clunker, morons like you are going to raise all kinds of hell. THAT was his point. You're just too much of a homer to see that, because you've already decided what you want to see.

I've said it once, and will say it again. You're just like those Alabama fans you claim to hate. You just wear a different color. You take half of a story, morph it a little, and pass it on as fact to whatever message board. Then that is reverberated throughout other boards. And so on, and so on. Before you know it, it is stated as truth. Our people did the S A M E shit with the Cam Newton scandal. You're no better.
Title: Re: Brent Calloway didn't want to "mess" things up for "peaches"
Post by: The Prowler on April 13, 2011, 07:26:31 AM
Rws, will you feel all warm inside when the NCAA states that Darren Woodruff is considered a booster?  Also, the Camaro was supposedly going to be BC's new ride...might still be after everything blows over, if it goes in SPuat's favor.  I think your University saw "pre-existing relationship" and said "okay our invesigation is complete...no violations have occured." They fail to realize that Woodruff did not have a pre-existing relationship with BC before he became a Prospect and he started helping in his recruitment, apparently, before he snapped on his Russellville High helmet in the 9th Grade (he had to sit out his 9th Grade season because of transfer rules). 

This "helping" could consist of sorting out all of his letters from Universities, taking him on visits to SPuat, taking him to camps at SPuat and across the Country, answering phone calls for him...posing as a Russellville Coach, taking him to SPuat posing as a Russellville Coach, being told by former bama coach Curt Cignetti to get the fuck out, take BC back to SPuat after Coach Cignetti lands another job elsewhere.

Like I've said many times before, I don't own Orange and Blue glasses, my glasses are Crystal Clear.  Woodruff is the key, IMO.  Not Coach Goodwin or Brent...Woodruff is more of the key to this blowing up all over the bammers faces than "peaches", but "peaches" ain't too far behind.  Questions I'd ask Woodruff, why have you purchased 20 vehicles in the last 13 years? What were the makes and models of these vehicles?  How long did you have them?  Then I'd go to the dealership and ask for VIN #s of these vehicles if I suspected anything "fishy".  Then I'd run the #s through CARFAX to find out who owns them now...only if I felt that DW had been purchasing vehicles for other prospects.

And, that's just the questions about the Camaro that BC was supposedly going to receive.  Take another look at that photo, someone stated yesterday that the photo looked like it was taken in a High School parking lot and after looking as close as I can...I can't really tell, but it doesn't look like a dealership lot.  Again, that's just about the Camaro.  I haven't even begun to scratch the surface of the out of State trip to Pensacola to "get away", or other out of State trips (who knows? Apparently DW didn't think anything of it, until he tried to pass himself off as a coach).

One thing I do know for sure, I hope Woodruff, "Peaches", and BC keep telling their sides of the stories...maybe they can keep adding more to their original story or throw in a few haymakers at Veteran Coach Goodwin.