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Title: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on March 30, 2011, 05:37:20 PM
I heard a replay of the interview Kraemer did on Jox and she was asked how many former AU players they contacted to get the 4 they got.  She hemmed and hawed and gave no clear answer. 

What I really want to know is how many former players did they contact at schools other than Auburn?  This is looking more and more like a hit piece the more I read about it.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: JR4AU on March 30, 2011, 05:47:25 PM
I heard a replay of the interview Kraemer did on Jox and she was asked how many former AU players they contacted to get the 4 they got.  She hemmed and hawed and gave no clear answer. 

What I really want to know is how many former players did they contact at schools other than Auburn?  This is looking more and more like a hit piece the more I read about it.

As stated in another thread, this started out as a hit piece on Cam.  It was insinuated that Cam wanted money for it, but SbB just said it was Kenny Rogers that wanted to be paid, and MSU didn't want those Bell and Bond clowns doing it, so, they instead looked for some losers down on their luck to sort of bolster the idea that Auburn pays players.  From a journalistic standpoint, even Fbomb says this is shit.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on March 30, 2011, 05:55:53 PM
As stated in another thread, this started out as a hit piece on Cam.  It was insinuated that Cam wanted money for it, but SbB just said it was Kenny Rogers that wanted to be paid, and MSU didn't want those Bell and Bond clowns doing it, so, they instead looked for some losers down on their luck to sort of bolster the idea that Auburn pays players.  From a journalistic standpoint, even Fbomb says this is shit.

I realize that, but once the story turned into $$$ handshakes and supposed backpacks of money, would they not be able to find one other school where this occurs?  Did they even try???
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: JR4AU on March 30, 2011, 06:04:03 PM
I realize that, but once the story turned into $$$ handshakes and supposed backpacks of money, would they not be able to find one other school where this occurs?  Did they even try???

The whole point from the start was to take down the reigning NCs.  Like they were going to bring out anything more than what we already know from the already well known cast of clowns involved.  Had they gotten Rogers, it would have been the same old bullshit we already knew.  In reality, they went to take a dump on Auburn without even having a good meal first, and ended up with a popcorn fart.  But Auburn was the target, make no mistake.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: Birmigham on March 30, 2011, 08:11:32 PM
YOU MOTHER FUCKERS ARE GONNA BURN.  NOW YOU'RE TURNING ON YOUR OWN.  SO MUCH FOR FAMILY BITCHES!!!  BURN BABY BURN!
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: AWK on March 31, 2011, 12:33:36 AM
YOU MOTHER FUCKERS ARE GONNA BURN.  NOW YOU'RE TURNING ON YOUR OWN.  SO MUCH FOR FAMILY BITCHES!!!  BURN BABY BURN!
OMG!?!?!?! I FOUND THE CAPS LOCK KEY ON MY MOTHER'S (WHO IS COINCIDENTALLY MY SISTER AS WELL) GATEWAY IN HER DOUBLE WIDE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TURN IT OFF.  GOOD THING I KNOW HOW TO FLAME TO HIDE MY CAPS LOCK INADEQUACIES!!@!
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: The Prowler on March 31, 2011, 04:38:43 AM
Who's HBO's Head Producer?  It's a bama grad. Btw, HBO should also get their ASSES SUED.  I'm not talking a large amount in our standards, I'm talking a crippling amount in HBO's standard.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: AUeagle on March 31, 2011, 07:29:22 AM
YOU MOTHER effERS ARE GONNA BURN.  NOW YOU'RE TURNING ON YOUR OWN.  SO MUCH FOR FAMILY BITCHES!!!  BURN BABY BURN!

I detest rude behavior in a person.  You don't have any idea what you are stepping in.    :fu:
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: Kaos on March 31, 2011, 08:44:51 AM
Who's HBO's Head Producer?  It's a bama grad. Btw, HBO should also get their ASSES SUED.  I'm not talking a large amount in our standards, I'm talking a crippling amount in HBO's standard.

What's his name?
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: No Huddle on March 31, 2011, 09:02:28 AM
Who's HBO's Head Producer?  It's a bama grad. Btw, HBO should also get their ASSES SUED.  I'm not talking a large amount in our standards, I'm talking a crippling amount in HBO's standard.


Not a lawyer but I was wondering the same thing. Could allbarn sue HBO for slander?
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 31, 2011, 09:05:41 AM
What's his name?

Tim Walker
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: No Huddle on March 31, 2011, 09:08:45 AM
Oh SHIT N2Y will fry his ass!
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: GH2001 on March 31, 2011, 09:14:11 AM
Oh SHIT N2Y will fry his ass!
Well, yeah - thats the goal.

 :sarcasm: .... just so the Bammers won't get their panties in a wad.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: Kaos on March 31, 2011, 09:19:31 AM
Tim Walker

And it's established that he's a Bama grad?
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 31, 2011, 09:22:44 AM
And it's established that he's a Bama grad?
Has not been verified.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: GH2001 on March 31, 2011, 09:25:57 AM
Agree with Prowler. There does seem to be a valid defamation case here for both slander and libel since this was broadcasted publically. I'm sure one of the resident barristers will opine here, at least as far as local precedent goes and the feasibility of such a suit.

Not sure but we may have to prove these allegations aren't true before we could pursue anything relating to defamation. Which if true, the AD is going through the proper process as expected. Lets investigate, proof they aren't true, then go for blood.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: No Huddle on March 31, 2011, 09:29:25 AM
Well, yeah - thats the goal.

 :sarcasm: .... just so the Bammers won't get their panties in a wad.

C'mon dude you know me better than that.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 31, 2011, 09:31:40 AM

Not a lawyer but I was wondering the same thing. Could allbarn sue HBO for slander?

I don't think so.

Until names are dropped, we can't do much. 

The only one that could be looked at is the claim that a coach gave money.  That implicates Auburn.

Saying random dudes outside the stadium were handing out cash and sending money in book bags isn't exactly a slander against Auburn.  It's a slander against random dudes. 
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: GH2001 on March 31, 2011, 09:32:07 AM
C'mon dude you know me better than that.
Yes I do.

That was more for Token and RWS.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: No Huddle on March 31, 2011, 09:35:30 AM
I don't think so.

Until names are dropped, we can't do much. 

The only one that could be looked at is the claim that a coach gave money.  That implicates Auburn.

Saying random dudes outside the stadium were handing out cash and sending money in book bags isn't exactly a slander against Auburn.  It's a slander against random dudes.

Thank you sir. You made it so simple a math teacher could understand.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: No Huddle on March 31, 2011, 09:36:16 AM
Yes I do.

That was more for Token and RWS.

I got you.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 31, 2011, 09:37:02 AM
Yes I do.

That was more for Token and RWS.

Fixt
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 31, 2011, 09:39:25 AM
Agree with Prowler. There does seem to be a valid defamation case here for both slander and libel since this was broadcasted publically. I'm sure one of the resident barristers will opine here, at least as far as local precedent goes and the feasibility of such a suit.

Not sure you have the elements here to prove a defamation case.  At the end of the day, what the players said can't be proven or disputed.  Cash...no trail.  HBO just aired their claims.  The key in a case like this is first, proving the claims are false and second, showing that HBO did this with the clear intent of harming Auburn.  I think it's obvious what their motives are when it comes to Auburn but being able to prove that is another matter altogether.

Also, always remember that litigation is not one sided.  If you sue someone, you crank up the discovery process, which means you have to open your closets and let them look at your AWK's...err, skeletons too.   
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: GH2001 on March 31, 2011, 09:42:31 AM
Fixt

Well, I added Token in seeing how much of a fan he is of NtYF. WAR baby, WAR.


Good point Snaggle. Seeing that it exists, and actually proving beyond reasonable doubt in court are 2 different things. If coaches start getting named, then I say its on. For the coach and Auburn since the coach at the time was a representative of Auburn.


Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on March 31, 2011, 09:50:19 AM
I think enough people will get caught up in this type of shit and start asking a question that I believe will become a large story in itself.   How about a report on the reporting itself.   I think the tough questions need to be asked on how certain "news" organizations view their function in all of this.  Are they a tabloid like TMZ, simply passing the rumors along?  Are they news reporters giving all news on a neutral basis, giving all sides of the issue attention?  What are they going to do? 

Since when was it ever acceptable for news organizations to ignore known facts and information to steer a story one way or the other?   It happens in political news, and it happens in news involving sports.  It's gotten to the point where NOBODY can go get real news and get clear cut information on the known facts.  Fuck...

...rant off....  Where's my fuckin' coffee...
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: No Huddle on March 31, 2011, 10:04:32 AM
Not sure you have the elements here to prove a defamation case.  At the end of the day, what the players said can't be proven or disputed.  Cash...no trail.  HBO just aired their claims.  The key in a case like this is first, proving the claims are false and second, showing that HBO did this with the clear intent of harming Auburn.  I think it's obvious what their motives are when it comes to Auburn but being able to prove that is another matter altogether.

Also, always remember that litigation is not one sided.  If you sue someone, you crank up the discovery process, which means you have to open your closets and let them look at your AWK's...err, skeletons too.


Nice work. I am feeling smarter by the minute.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: JR4AU on March 31, 2011, 10:15:17 AM
Not sure you have the elements here to prove a defamation case.  At the end of the day, what the players said can't be proven or disputed.  Cash...no trail.  HBO just aired their claims.  The key in a case like this is first, proving the claims are false and second, showing that HBO did this with the clear intent of harming Auburn.  I think it's obvious what their motives are when it comes to Auburn but being able to prove that is another matter altogether.

Also, always remember that litigation is not one sided.  If you sue someone, you crank up the discovery process, which means you have to open your closets and let them look at your AWK's...err, skeletons too.

Then there's the matter of proving actual money damages. 
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: AUChizad on March 31, 2011, 10:58:48 AM
Has not been verified.
I don't have access here, but teh googles tell me this is likely false.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmbd.scout.com%2Fmb.aspx%3Fs%3D6%26f%3D2770%26t%3D7380457&ei=-pWUTcedEMXAtgeIrbmGDA&usg=AFQjCNEWR3U1eDuySUAbnccSV0cVBcqAyw&sig2=dWZ64d-Asp0VvAqbJ2kO5Q
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: JR4AU on March 31, 2011, 11:04:01 AM
And it's established that he's a Bama grad?

Call him and ask him: Tim Walker 561-983-1097 (Cell)
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: GH2001 on March 31, 2011, 12:00:02 PM
Then there's the matter of proving actual money damages.

How much is this investigation gonna cost us? Just saying. I'd do it just to prove a point. Until someone holds the media's feet to the fire, they'll keep doing this shit.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: AUChizad on March 31, 2011, 12:00:38 PM
How much is this investigation gonna cost us? Just saying. I'd do it just to prove a point. Until someone holds the media's feet to the fire, they'll keep doing this shit.
:thumsup: Likes This
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: JR4AU on March 31, 2011, 12:57:35 PM
How much is this investigation gonna cost us? Just saying. I'd do it just to prove a point. Until someone holds the media's feet to the fire, they'll keep doing this shit.

Tis the way of the world these days.  There's no integrity anymore in journalism and reporting.  It's about putting something out there that will generate readers or viewers, and it's about being the first to do it.  Truth, facts, proof, evidence, those don't factor in, UNLESS they can enhance the sensationalism.  If they get in the way of it, they're ignored.

And, it's open season on Auburn now.  Cecil was pimping Cam to the highest bidder, Cam knew, Auburn won the bidding war, and the SEC and NCAA turned a blind eye to make a profit.  Solid facts right there, solid. 
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: GH2001 on March 31, 2011, 02:16:25 PM
Tis the way of the world these days.  There's no integrity anymore in journalism and reporting.  It's about putting something out there that will generate readers of viewers, and it's about being the first to do it.  Truth, facts, proof, evidence, those don't factor in, UNLESS they can enhance the sensationalism.  If they get in the way of it, they're ignored.

And, it's open season on Auburn now.  Cecil was pimping Cam to the highest bidder, Cam knew, Auburn won the bidding war, and the SEC and NCAA turned a blind eye to make a profit.  Solid facts right there, solid.

And the culture were breeding is just further proven by the fact that we have players arrested for armed robbery and players getting paid going back 5 years ago. We're as corrupt as they come I tell ya.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on March 31, 2011, 03:45:15 PM
I have been told from trusted source that HBO contacted over 200 former AU players trying to dig up dirt. 
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 31, 2011, 03:53:08 PM
I have been told from trusted source that HBO contacted over 200 former AU players trying to dig up dirt.

A source close to the situation says HBO is full of 2 week old monkey shit.  Press release time.
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: JR4AU on March 31, 2011, 04:01:36 PM
A source close to the situation says HBO is full of 2 week old monkey shit.  Press release time.

2 week old monkey shit doesn't stink.  Now, a fresh bouquet like the one I leave the morning after a night of Mexican food, beer, and tequila...THAT'S what they're full of!
Title: Re: Here's one thing I want to know
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 31, 2011, 04:06:32 PM
2 week old monkey shit doesn't stink.  Now, a fresh bouquet like the one I leave the morning after a night of Mexican food, beer, and tequila...THAT'S what they're full of!

I grabbed a Sports Illustrated and went to the library to drop a huge Gumbel this morning.  Somebody bought that coarse toilet paper and I felt like I scraped all the skin off my Kremer.