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Title: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: Jumbo on April 02, 2008, 04:33:17 AM
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Cops: Third-graders plotted to attack teacher
Nine girls, boys apparently mad at veteran educator at Georgia elementary

AP
This photo provided by Chief of Police of Waycross, Ga., Tony Tanner on Tuesday shows the items involved in the teacher plot. A group of third-graders plotted against their teacher, bringing a broken steak knife, handcuffs, duct tape and other items for the job.
  Police: Third graders plot to attack teacher
April 1: Georgia authorities say nine third grade students plotted to attack a teacher.
Third-grade attack plot?
April 1: A group of Georgia third-graders is accused of hatching a plot to kill their teacher. Dan Abrams gets more on the story from Police Chief Tony Tanner, Myra Thrift of the Waycross Journal Herald, and former FBI profiler Clint Van Zandt.
updated 6:06 p.m. CT, Tues., April. 1, 2008
WAYCROSS, Georgia - A group of third-graders plotted to attack their teacher, bringing a broken steak knife, handcuffs, duct tape and other items for the job and assigning children tasks including covering the windows and cleaning up afterward, police said Tuesday.

The plot involving as many as nine boys and girls at Center Elementary School in south Georgia was a serious threat, Waycross Police Chief Tony Tanner said.

School officials alerted police Friday after a pupil tipped off a teacher that a girl had brought a weapon to school. Tanner said the students apparently planned to knock the teacher unconscious with a crystal paperweight, bind her with the handcuffs and tape and then stab her with the knife.
"We did not hear anybody say they intended to kill her, but could they have accidentally killed her? Absolutely," Tanner said. "We feel like if they weren't interrupted, there would have been an attempt. Would they have been successful? We don't know."

The children, ages 8 to 10, were apparently mad at the teacher because she had scolded one of them for standing on a chair, Tanner said.

Arrests made
Two of the students were arrested on juvenile charges Tuesday and a third arrest was expected. District Attorney Rick Currie said other students told investigators they didn't take the plot seriously or insisted they had decided not to participate.

"Some of the kids said, 'We thought they were just kidding,'" Currie said. "Another child was supposed to bring a toy pistol, and he told a detective he didn't bring it because he thought he would get in trouble."

Currie said the children are too young to be charged as adults, and probably too young to be sentenced to a youth detention center.

Police seized a steak knife with a broken handle, steel handcuffs, duct tape, electrical and transparent tape, ribbons and the paperweight from the students, Tanner said.

Currie said he decided to seek juvenile charges against two girls, ages 9 and 10, who brought the knife and paperweight and an 8-year-old boy who brought tape. He said all three students faced charges of conspiracy to commit aggravated assault, and both girls were being charged with bringing weapons to school.

Disciplining the nine
Nine children have been given discipline up to and including long-term suspension, said Theresa Martin, spokeswoman for the Ware County school system. She would not be more specific but said none of the children had been back to school since the case came to light.

The purported target is a veteran educator who teaches third-grade students with learning disabilities, including attention deficit disorder, delayed development and hyperactivity, friends and parents said.

The scheme involved a division of roles, Tanner said. One child's job was to cover windows so no one could see outside, he said. Another was supposed to clean up after the attack.

"We're not sure at this point in the investigation how many of the students actually knew the intent was to hurt the teacher," Tanner said.

He said the teacher told detectives the children involved weren't known as troublemakers.

"You can't dismiss it," Tanner said. "But because they are kids, they may have thought this was like a cartoon — we do whatever and then she stands up and she's OK. That's a hard call."

'Considered pretty good kids'
The parents of the students have cooperated with investigators, who aren't allowed to question the children without their parents' or guardians' consent, he said. Authorities have withheld the children's names.

Martin told The Florida Times-Union of Jacksonville, Fla., that administrators would follow school system policy and state law in disciplining the students.

"From what I understand, they were considered pretty good kids," Martin said. "But we have to take this seriously, whether they were serious or not about carrying this through, and that's what we did."

Four mothers of other third-grade students at Center Elementary called for the immediate expulsion of the suspected plotters.

Stacy Carter and Deana Hiott both cited school system policy stating that any student who brings "anything reasonably considered to be a weapon" is to be expelled for at least the remainder of the school year.

"We don't want our children around them," Carter told the Times-Union. "The one with the knife could have stabbed my child or someone else's child at lunch or out on the playground."

"This is an isolated incident, an aberration. ... We have good kids," Center Principal Angie Coleman told the newspaper.



Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: AUChizad on April 02, 2008, 09:00:16 AM
April Fools!
Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: GarMan on April 02, 2008, 11:24:15 AM
Charge every single one of the little bastards and don't forget about the worthless parents.  I'm sure that there's something they can be charged with... neglect, abuse, something...
Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: Pell City Tiger on April 02, 2008, 12:26:41 PM
It's well past time to bring back the paddle. Kids today are evil.

Send these little bastards to juvie for a few years.
Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: GarMan on April 02, 2008, 01:57:31 PM
It's well past time to bring back the paddle. Kids today are evil.

Send these little bastards to juvie for a few years.

Public floggings wouldn't be a bad idea either. 
Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 02, 2008, 02:02:07 PM
Public floggings wouldn't be a bad idea either. 
But that would hurt their self-esteem. 
Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: Jumbo on April 02, 2008, 02:14:35 PM
this story blows my mind.
Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on April 02, 2008, 03:11:10 PM
I was not worried as much about the paddling by the principle, I was scared shitless of the beating I would be getting at home on top of said paddling.  I personally think the whole no spanking, time-out bullshit will be the downfall of the next few generations.
Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: Thrilla on April 02, 2008, 03:56:51 PM
I was not worried as much about the paddling by the principle, I was scared shitless of the beating I would be getting at home on top of said paddling.  I personally think the whole no spanking, time-out bullshit will be the downfall of the next few generations.

I vividly recall getting my ass bruised and beaten via paddle in middle and high school.  It didn't matter if it was coming from the assistant principal or one of the football coaches...they would place a sting in my right ass cheek that would last for hours.   However, I would always opt for the paddling over suspension or Saturday school...I would think to myself "lets go ahead and get this shit over with...I'm not coming back here to do time for this".  So, the beatings are humiliating, but fairly ineffective.  This shit always falls back on the lame, uninvolved, shit-for-brains parents (or guardians) that raise these kids.  I have to deal with a portion of this scum on a daily basis, and it's truly sad how many parents don't give two shits about their kid's upbringing.
Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 02, 2008, 04:42:13 PM
I was not worried as much about the paddling by the principle, I was scared shitless of the beating I would be getting at home on top of said paddling.  I personally think the whole no spanking, time-out bullshit will be the downfall of the next few generations.
Word.
I remember being chased around the house by my Mother wielding one of Dad's belts, and while she proceeded to spank the shit out of me she kept saying "just wait til your Dad gets home."  And that scared me more than the first belt.
Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on April 02, 2008, 04:46:57 PM
Word.
I remember being chased around the house by my Mother wielding one of Dad's belts, and while she proceeded to spank the shit out of me she kept saying "just wait til your Dad gets home."  And that scared me more than the first belt.

Did we grow up in the same house?
Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: Ogre on April 02, 2008, 06:53:47 PM
Did we grow up in the same house?


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Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: Jumbo on April 03, 2008, 03:08:36 AM
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Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
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Title: Re: 3rd graders plot to kill?
Post by: Tarheel on April 03, 2008, 05:20:51 PM
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