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The Library => Haley Center Basement => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on January 24, 2011, 01:46:21 PM
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An explosion rocked Moscow's busiest airport today in an apparent "terrorist attack", killing 35 and injuring dozens more, according to Russian officials.
The blast, which reportedly erupted in the Domodedovo airport, took place at 4:40 p.m. Moscow time. In addition to the 35 dead, another 130 were injured, airport spokesperson Yelena Galanova said on Russian television.
President Obama said in a statement he "strongly condemns this act of terrorism" and offered his condolences to those affected, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said today.
Just posted the basics since it's all over the news. I have to say, this type of stuff makes it all too real. I've read how they're already saying the security is coming in to question but I honestly don't know what part of the airport this happened in. The fact of the matter is that anyone cowardly enough to do something like this can pretty much find tons of people gathered in close proximity anywhere they want. Go to a high school football game. Walk down the streets of New York. Go to an outdoor concert where there's no security. Whatever. I have no idea how you stop something like this and more importantly, why does anyone feel the need to prove a point or fight a war by targeting innocent, defenseless people?
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Motherfucker!
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I have no idea how you stop something like this and more importantly, why does anyone feel the need to prove a point or fight a war by targeting innocent, defenseless people?
It's what cowards do...
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There's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it mainly because the people doing this are no different than the crazies in Waco or the psycho at the post office.
People get an idea in their head and it grows into something they can't control. This suicide bomber believed his death and the consequential deaths that followed would serve a greater purpose than any of us can imagine.
I blame Christopher Nolan and Leonardo DiCaprio.
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It's what cowards do...
Seems like something that someone from a peaceful religion would do.
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Just read where they found he head of the bomber. Said it was definitely Arab. I know that Russia has had their long standing fued with Chechen Rebels and have experienced some terrorist attacks stemming from that, but is there a reason Russia would be the target of Muslim terrorist attacks? Assuming it was.
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Just read where they found he head of the bomber. Said it was definitely Arab. I know that Russia has had their long standing fued with Chechen Rebels and have experienced some terrorist attacks stemming from that, but is there a reason Russia would be the target of Muslim terrorist attacks? Assuming it was.
Muhammed Jihad? Durka durka?
My only two guesses.
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Just read where they found he head of the bomber. Said it was definitely Arab. I know that Russia has had their long standing fued with Chechen Rebels and have experienced some terrorist attacks stemming from that, but is there a reason Russia would be the target of Muslim terrorist attacks? Assuming it was.
I am going to guess it has to be Chechen related - because unlike the pussies who currently are in charge of our national security in the Executive Branch, the Russian government will FUCK. YOU. UP. They don't worry about waterboarding because they do not take prisoners. Al Queda is not that stupid. They may provide aid to the Chechens but they are not about to take the Bear by the balls directly.
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I am going to guess it has to be Chechen related - because unlike the pussies who currently are in charge of our national security in the Executive Branch, the Russian government will FUCK. YOU. UP. They don't worry about waterboarding because they do not take prisoners. Al Queda is not that stupid. They may provide aid to the Chechens but they are not about to take the Bear by the balls directly.
My thoughts exactly...but never put it past an extremist...to be extreme.
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Seems like something that someone from a peaceful religion would do.
As-SalÄmu `Alaykum
:silence:
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I am a terrorist
What kind of terrorist?
A terrifying....terrorist.
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There's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it mainly because the people doing this are no different than the crazies in Waco or the psycho at the post office.
Really? I don't think you can really justify a comparison between the crazies Waco and Muslim extremist. In Waco you had a cult that was pretty much murdered for defending their compound from the ATF. How is that like what happened in Moscow?
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Really? I don't think you can really justify a comparison between the crazies Waco and Muslim extremist. In Waco you had a cult that was pretty much murdered for defending their compound from the ATF. How is that like what happened in Moscow?
Well they were murdered for not allowing the execution of a legal search warrant, but I think your point is valid. Up to that point they had been peaceful despite having a stockpile of weapons large enough to take over Paris.
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Well they were murdered for not allowing the execution of a legal search warrant, but I think your point is valid. Up to that point they had been peaceful despite having a stockpile of weapons large enough to take over Paris.
Well, I think my point is just that it an odd comparison to go to when there are so events in recent memory that seem to be better for comparison.
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Really? I don't think you can really justify a comparison between the crazies Waco and Muslim extremist. In Waco you had a cult that was pretty much murdered for defending their compound from the ATF. How is that like what happened in Moscow?
Two things:
1. Did I clearly define which side of the Waco situation was the crazies?
2. Many people died in both situations due to people allowing their personal beliefs to influence the way they treat others.
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Up to that point they had been peaceful despite having a stockpile of weapons large enough to take over Paris.
So their arsenal included 2 Daisey BB guns, 4 water pistols, a sling shot and 10 members with their fingers in coat pockets?
Looking at that list, it might be overkill for taking Paris by force.
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despite having a stockpile of weapons large enough to take over Paris.
So they had slingshots?
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Two things:
1. Did I clearly define which side of the Waco situation was the crazies?
2. Many people died in both situations due to people allowing their personal beliefs to influence the way they treat others.
1. Not really sure it matters which side you chose
2. I still think it is an odd choice of comparison, it almost seems as if you are throwing that out there so you can tell us how you feel about the Waco situation. True people many have died in both situations and personal beliefs were involved, but in Waco the people with their personal beliefs were the ones dieing. On the other hand, the person in Moscow was the one with the personal beliefs and he was the one inflicting the harm. I just think it is a bad example for comparison.
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Being that the old Soviet Union had their long, drawn out war in Afghanistan themselves, albeit probably what...25-30 years ago?....has there still been problems between the two? Maybe it's just my perception that the U.S. is the prime target for terrorist acts like this; however, this kind of shit is becoming all too common place all around the world. Do radical Muslims that do this shit just hate everyone who simply isn't Muslim?
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Do radical Muslims that do this shit just hate everyone who simply isn't Muslim?
Yes
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I hope it was a Jihad. I hope Bin Laden makes another video declaring a Holy Jihad against the Russians. Then I hope the Russians load up all of their ammunition, dig out all of those Afghan uniforms from 1979 and drive their tanks straight up Afghanistan's ass.
If I had enough time and money, I'd start drawing slanderous Taliban comics under a Chinese alias and have them printed in Chinese newspapers.
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You no rike Arrah?
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1. Not really sure it matters which side you chose
2. I still think it is an odd choice of comparison, it almost seems as if you are throwing that out there so you can tell us how you feel about the Waco situation. True people many have died in both situations and personal beliefs were involved, but in Waco the people with their personal beliefs were the ones dieing. On the other hand, the person in Moscow was the one with the personal beliefs and he was the one inflicting the harm. I just think it is a bad example for comparison.
You are one nitpicky motherfucker. And to be honest, I couldn't care less about the Waco situation, but the comparison stands as both involve people dying for stupid reasons.
And for the record, if you don't think the leader of the Waco compound was inflicting serious harm on his members (physical is not the only means of malevolence), then I'm not sure you know a whole lot about the situation.
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Being that the old Soviet Union had their long, drawn out war in Afghanistan themselves, albeit probably what...25-30 years ago?....has there still been problems between the two? Maybe it's just my perception that the U.S. is the prime target for terrorist acts like this; however, this kind of shit is becoming all too common place all around the world. Do radical Muslims that do this shit just hate everyone who simply isn't Muslim?
Fuckin Rambo should have never saved the Afganis
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I am going to guess it has to be Chechen related - because unlike the pussies who currently are in charge of our national security in the Executive Branch, the Russian government will FUCK. YOU. UP. They don't worry about waterboarding because they do not take prisoners. Al Queda is not that stupid. They may provide aid to the Chechens but they are not about to take the Bear by the balls directly.
Ahem... I gots Russian skreets...
Putin: Retribution 'inevitable' for airport attack
Jan 25, 9:03 AM (ET)
By JIM HEINTZ
MOSCOW (AP) - Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin vowed "retribution is inevitable" for the suicide bombing that killed 35 people at Russia's busiest airport, while President Dmitry Medvedev demanded robust checks at all transport hubs and lashed out at the airport for lax security.
Putin has built much of his reputation on harsh statements, but he did not elaborate on what kind of retribution he had planned or against whom in his comments Tuesday carried by Russian news agencies.
No claims of responsibility have been made for the attack Monday at Domodedovo Airport, which also left 180 people injured. Suspicion is likely to fall, however, on Islamist separatist insurgents from Chechnya or elsewhere in Russia's restive Caucasus region who have been battling Russian authority for over 15 years.
Chechen insurgents have claimed responsibility for an array of attacks in Moscow and elsewhere in Russia, including a double suicide bombing on the capital's subway system in March 2010 that killed 40 people. They also have hit Domodedovo Airport before, with two suicide bombers slipping through its security in 2004 to kill 90 people.[snip]
Putin rose to power largely on his tough-against-terror image, including a famous vow that Chechen rebels would be hunted down and killed "in the outhouse." But despite launching the second Russia-Chechnya war and pushing harsh against suspected rebels, he was unable to wipe out the Chechen insurgency during his 2000-2008 presidency.
In addition, it's unclear what levers Putin could push now if he aims to exact retribution. After the Beslan school hostage crisis in 2004 that killed more than 330 people, half of them children, Putin pushed through changes to make regional governors appointed rather than elected. Still, further attempts at consolidating Russian government control could provoke a backlash from an opposition movement that has grown in recent months.
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I'm sure Cecil is behind this somehow.
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I'm sure Cecil is behind this somehow.
It's ok though Cam wasn't aware of it.
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phukin Rambo should have never saved the Afganis
There's a history there... We were friends with the Mujahideen back in the day, but all of those relationships fell apart, among other things, during the 90s.
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There's a history there... We were friends with the Mujahideen back in the day, but all of those relationships fell apart, among other things, during the 90s.
Yeah I know...I fuckin remember.
Hell the CIA trained half of today's terrorists...including Bin Laden.
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You are one nitpicky motherfucker. And to be honest, I couldn't care less about the Waco situation, but the comparison stands as both involve people dying for stupid reasons.
And for the record, if you don't think the leader of the Waco compound was inflicting serious harm on his members (physical is not the only means of malevolence), then I'm not sure you know a whole lot about the situation.
I'm not really trying to express any opinions on the Waco situation other than it being a bad model of comparison to acts of terrorism. If we all just go by your logic then everyone that dies for a stupid reason should be held in comparison to terrorism? If that's the case, then check out all of these terrorist on www.darwinawards.com.
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One of the classes I am taking this semester to go towards my minor in political science is "Understanding International Terrorism". So far the textbook has been the most interesting textbook I have ever read. Just reading about the history of terrorism from the dawn of recorded history is pretty awesome. Though the book is supposed to be unbiased, yet thus far I would guess that Muslim extremists would not like the book one bit.
It actually has mentioned the Waco situation, but as a comparison to what most countries consider terrorism and what they don't. Waco was an example of how a person with very good manipulation skills could prey on weaker minds or loners, and have them believe in something that either they normally would not or actually don't fully understand. It gives them a sense of belong to something that they perceive as important because some extreme leader has convinced them of that, thus also getting them to do things they never thought about doing before in the name of religion, culture, etc. The Branch Davidians had not committed any terrorist acts and might not have been a terrorist organization, but the fact that law enforcement felt they could not wait to see if they did anything was evidence that the BDs were considered to be an organization capable of terrorist acts.