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Title: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: AUChizad on November 29, 2010, 08:42:32 PM
Haven't seen this anywhere yet.

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/news/story?id=5862368

Good for them. Geographically makes no sense, but take note Boise: This is what you do if you want to garner any iota of respect.

I applaud TCU for this.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: The Prowler on November 29, 2010, 08:47:46 PM
TCU 2012 Big Least Champs.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: JR4AU on November 29, 2010, 08:50:16 PM
Haven't seen this anywhere yet.

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/news/story?id=5862368

Good for them. Geographically makes no sense, but take note Boise: This is what you do if you want to garner any iota of respect.

I applaud TCU for this.

I think I heard a statement by the Big East Commish that noted the Dallas Cowboys are in the NFC East.   When I was a youngun, and like Baseball, the Braves were in the NL West with the Dodgers, Giants and such.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Saniflush on November 30, 2010, 07:09:42 AM
I think I heard a statement by the Big East Commish that noted the Dallas Cowboys are in the NFC East.   When I was a youngun, and like Baseball, the Braves were in the NL West with the Dodgers, Giants and such.

The Cowboy analogy may be more correct than you even know.  When the Cowboys first came into league their president/general manager Tex Shramm bribed whoever he had to to get into that league because at that time he knew the Cowboys were gonna get some instant credibility just due to who else was in that division. 
At that point the division was made up of Philadelphia, New YorK, St Louis, and Washington. By far the most televised and media covered division.  Now the Big East is not that but what I am getting at is the downside to travel will be far outweighed by the publicity and good of joining that league.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Lurking Tiger on November 30, 2010, 08:01:34 AM
You guys are acting like the Big East is a real league.

As far as travel goes, how would you feel if we joined the Pac (insert number) ? It would suck.

This smacks of desperation. But I don't entirely blame the school as this is their only chance at removing the non AQ stench from their name. And it's not like the administration really cares what league they are in. I think this will be their forth or fifth conference since the SWC broke up.

It will kill recruiting . The irony is that by the time they get into the new conference, they will no linger be able to win it.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Saniflush on November 30, 2010, 08:07:45 AM
You guys are acting like the Big East is a real league.

As far as travel goes, how would you feel if we joined the Pac (insert number) ? It would suck.

This smacks of desperation. But I don't entirely blame the school as this is their only chance at removing the non AQ stench from their name. And it's not like the administration really cares what league they are in. I think this will be their forth or fifth conference since the SWC broke up.

It will kill recruiting . The irony is that by the time they get into the new conference, they will no linger be able to win it.

My point is joining any league is better than where they are at right now and with the Big East still having an automatic bid it is definitely a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Lurking Tiger on November 30, 2010, 08:55:40 AM
My point is joining any league is better than where they are at right now and with the Big East still having an automatic bid it is definitely a step in the right direction.

Aim your point in another direction.

The non AQ groundswell has grown to the point that the BCS might tweak the system to make it easier for the TCU's of the world to get into the big games. But, maybe not.

I just think they are whoring themselves out. It seems like it would be easier to just schedule some harder teams instead of forcing their teams to travel across the country for half of their games.  - They aren't just moving in football, they are moving all sports.

When the football Frogs cycle back down to reality, they will be at the midpoint of the bottomfeeder conference. Short term thinking.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Godfather on November 30, 2010, 09:13:45 AM
Question LT, Why do you think it will kill recruiting?
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 30, 2010, 09:45:27 AM
Question LT, Why do you think it will kill recruiting?

It can't be anything but a plus for recruiting in my opinion.  The Big East may be going through a suckage phase right now but that won't last forever.  If you can tell a kid they'll be playing in front of 60,000 in Pittsburgh or Louisville and on TV as opposed to 18,142 in New Mexico or Utah State or whoever else is in that conference, it's far more attractive.  Scheduling better OOC teams is one idea but your schedule is still going to be made up of 70-80% shitty conference teams that kill your SOS.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: War Eagle!!! on November 30, 2010, 10:03:19 AM
This is the only choice TCU had. They want to be a part of a big conference and the Big East was the only option. I bet they try to get in the Big East for a couple of years, show they belong, and then talk to the Big 12 whenever they start adding more schools...because it will happen. The loss of revenue for them next year without a football championship game alone will hurt...
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Godfather on November 30, 2010, 10:03:46 AM
It can't be anything but a plus for recruiting in my opinion.  The Big East may be going through a suckage phase right now but that won't last forever.  If you can tell a kid they'll be playing in front of 60,000 in Pittsburgh or Louisville and on TV as opposed to 18,142 in New Mexico or Utah State or whoever else is in that conference, it's far more attractive.  Scheduling better OOC teams is one idea but your schedule is still going to be made up of 70-80% shitty conference teams that kill your SOS.
Kinda what I was thinking.  Plus add to it, you are TCU, if you are able to get decent players NOW in a state as competitive with recruiting as Texas.  I don't really see how this would hurt recruiting.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Saniflush on November 30, 2010, 10:11:37 AM
Aim your point in another direction.

The non AQ groundswell has grown to the point that the BCS might tweak the system to make it easier for the TCU's of the world to get into the big games. But, maybe not.

I just think they are whoring themselves out. It seems like it would be easier to just schedule some harder teams instead of forcing their teams to travel across the country for half of their games.  - They aren't just moving in football, they are moving all sports.

When the football Frogs cycle back down to reality, they will be at the midpoint of the bottomfeeder conference. Short term thinking.

You're a hooker.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on November 30, 2010, 10:21:43 AM
I think I heard a statement by the Big East Commish that noted the Dallas Cowboys are in the NFC East.   When I was a youngun, and like Baseball, the Braves were in the NL West with the Dodgers, Giants and such.

That's crap.  The Cowboys have to travel east 3 games a year.  TCU will have to travel to away games, for ALL 20 varsity sports that will be joining the Big East.  I see TCU dropping a few programs that won't be able to cut the mustard budget wise.  Good for them in getting the AQ status for football, sux for the kids on scholarship for the non money making sports.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: War Eagle!!! on November 30, 2010, 10:23:30 AM
That's crap.  The Cowboys have to travel east 3 games a year.  TCU will have to travel to away games, for ALL 20 varsity sports that will be joining the Big East.  I see TCU dropping a few programs that won't be able to cut the mustard budget wise.  Good for them in getting the AQ status for football, sux for the kids on scholarship for the non money making sports.

TCU has money. It is a private school that is expensive as hell.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 30, 2010, 10:33:19 AM
Question..because I don't want to go back and read it.  Is it just a football move or all sports.  I ask because don't some teams do this like Notre Dame in the Big East in basketball only?  Might can do that just because they're an independent. 
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Godfather on November 30, 2010, 10:34:50 AM
Question..because I don't want to go back and read it.  Is it just a football move or all sports.  I ask because don't some teams do this like Notre Dame in the Big East in basketball only?  Might can do that just because they're an independent.
You couldn't look at the thread above yours?   All sports
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: chinook on November 30, 2010, 10:40:28 AM
You couldn't look at the thread above yours?   All sports

underachiever.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 30, 2010, 10:42:05 AM
I told you I didn't want to look.  Now cater to my every need, bitches. 
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Godfather on November 30, 2010, 10:49:44 AM
I told you I didn't want to look.  Now cater to my every need, bitches.
From the man who doesn't even bother to look in the mirror.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Saniflush on November 30, 2010, 11:28:05 AM
From the man who doesn't even bother to look in the mirror.

Well that's just due to the shame of having the mangina.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 30, 2010, 11:30:29 AM
Well that's just due to the shame of having the mangina.

Don't hate on my downstairs mix up
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: JR4AU on November 30, 2010, 11:37:34 AM
You guys are acting like the Big East is a real league.

As far as travel goes, how would you feel if we joined the Pac (insert number) ? It would suck.

This smacks of desperation. But I don't entirely blame the school as this is their only chance at removing the non AQ stench from their name. And it's not like the administration really cares what league they are in. I think this will be their forth or fifth conference since the SWC broke up.

It will kill recruiting . The irony is that by the time they get into the new conference, they will no linger be able to win it.

Wrong on all counts, but the very last one. 

The Big East sucks as a football conference, but they are a BCS AQ conference.  They have every bit as legit a shot as the likes of South FL, and Connecticut, and maybe even Pitt at winning it.   

Desperation?  Smacks of wanting to compete for championships and realizing you have to step up your competition level to do it, even if it's not the the highest level, it's high enough. 

The east coast TV exposure and more prime time TV can only help recruiting.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 30, 2010, 11:59:05 AM
Wrong on all counts, but the very last one. 

The Big East sucks as a football conference, but they are a BCS AQ conference.  They have every bit as legit a shot as the likes of South FL, and Connecticut, and maybe even Pitt at winning it.   

Desperation? Smacks of wanting to compete for championships and realizing you have to step up your competition level to do it, even if it's not the the highest level, it's high enough.

The east coast TV exposure and more prime time TV can only help recruiting.

If TCU comes in and runs table in the Big East, which I think they can and they can compete for it every year, (name a big east team that you think can beat them) they go to a big game worth a lot of money.  Good move, by them imo.  Would have been better if they could have got a Big 12/Pac 10 invite, but it still works for them.  The only downfall is the travel. 

This has to burn Boise's and Utah's ass up. 
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on November 30, 2010, 12:47:18 PM
This has to burn Boise's and Utah's ass up.

Utah is joining the Pac 10 along with Colorado.  That happened over the summer during all the realignment drama.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Godfather on November 30, 2010, 12:50:26 PM
I am surprised the Big 12 wouldn't go after them
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 30, 2010, 01:07:00 PM
Utah is joining the Pac 10 along with Colorado.  That happened over the summer during all the realignment drama.

Ahh, forgot about that.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: AUChizad on November 30, 2010, 01:29:46 PM
Utah is joining the Pac 10 along with Colorado.  That happened over the summer during all the realignment drama.
Not only Utah, but BYU just left the MWC. Just in time for Boise to jump from one sinking dingy to another.

TCU did it right, by jumping on a structurally sound boat.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 30, 2010, 01:48:08 PM
Not only Utah, but BYU just left the MWC. Just in time for Boise to jump from one sinking dingy to another.

TCU did it right, by jumping on a structurally sound boat.

As long as the front doesn't fall off.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: Token on November 30, 2010, 02:08:21 PM
I am surprised the Big 12 wouldn't go after them

If Texas has as much pull in the Big __ as some indicate, do you think they really want another in-state school in their division kicking their ass?
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on November 30, 2010, 02:11:50 PM
Not only Utah, but BYU just left the MWC. Just in time for Boise to jump from one sinking dingy to another.

TCU did it right, by jumping on a structurally sound boat.

TCU's new boat has 17 people on it (not all play football though).  Hope there is enough of the pie to go around.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: JR4AU on November 30, 2010, 06:03:40 PM
If TCU comes in and runs table in the Big East, which I think they can and they can compete for it every year,

On any given day, they beat the best the Big East has to offer.  BUT...if they play a schedule like that for 8 or 9 conference games...folks gonna find out what depth of talent is about.   The Big East has no power houses, but they don't have any team that is a perennial doormat either.    They're pretty balanced with a bunch of mediocre teams that on any day are as good as Ole Miss, or MSU are year in and out.  TCU won't be running through the BE like they have the Mtn West or WAC, or wherever it is they fucking play.   TCU has aspired to be the best of their ilk, now they're stepping up a level...they may eventually catch up...it's not a huge jump, but half the BE is capable of winning the Mtn West.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 30, 2010, 06:14:58 PM
On any given day, they beat the best the Big East has to offer.  BUT...if they play a schedule like that for 8 or 9 conference games...folks gonna find out what depth of talent is about.   The Big East has no power houses, but they don't have any team that is a perennial doormat either.    They're pretty balanced with a bunch of mediocre teams that on any day are as good as Ole Miss, or MSU are year in and out.  TCU won't be running through the BE like they have the Mtn West or WAC, or wherever it is they phuking play.   TCU has aspired to be the best of their ilk, now they're stepping up a level...they may eventually catch up...it's not a huge jump, but half the BE is capable of winning the Mtn West.

I think they could come in immediately and win the BE.  WVU is the best the BE has to offer this year and they are in a big game with 3 or 4 losses.  IMO, TCU should be able to come in do the same thing and make big $$$$ in a BCS game.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: JR4AU on November 30, 2010, 06:35:08 PM
I think they could come in immediately and win the BE.  WVU is the best the BE has to offer this year and they are in a big game with 3 or 4 losses.  IMO, TCU should be able to come in do the same thing and make big $$$$ in a BCS game.

I think they can compete...just not dominate. 
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: BZ770 on November 30, 2010, 08:27:21 PM
I think the Big Recruiting Winners are the other Big East Teams.  By getting TCU this can open Texas up for getting them recruits to come up East.
Title: Re: TCU To Join The Big East
Post by: The Prowler on November 30, 2010, 10:47:49 PM
I think the Big Recruiting Winners are the other Big East Teams.  By getting TCU this can open Texas up for getting them recruits to come up East.
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