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Title: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: Jumbo on November 27, 2010, 02:02:40 PM
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Robbie Caldwell steps down as Vandy head coach
(AP) – 1 hour ago

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Robbie Caldwell resigned as Vanderbilt's head football coach on Saturday, hours before the Commodores concluded their season against Wake Forest.

The school said Caldwell's resignation will be effective after Saturday night's season finale. Caldwell was assistant head coach and offensive line coach under Bobby Johnson before taking over in mid-July, when Johnson announced his unexpected retirement.

The Commodores are just 2-9 in Caldwell's first try as a head coach.

"Having the opportunity to be Vanderbilt's head football coach has been a dream come true, and I greatly appreciated the chance to serve, and I gave it my best," Caldwell said in a statement. "However, after a lot of reflection, I've realized it is time for me to step aside and let someone else pick up the hard work and efforts of our staff."

Caldwell had been talking the past couple weeks about how he wasn't sure if he would be back after this season. He had wanted an entire offseason to make major changes, but he just didn't have enough time. His biggest change was swapping offensive coordinators in October, a move that improved offensive production only a bit.

Vanderbilt still ranks 115th out of 120 FBS teams in total offense, averaging 285.1 yards.

Coaches in their first season at Vanderbilt have struggled to win more than a couple games. Fred Pancoast debuted by going 7-4 in 1975. Since then, Gerry DiNardo went 5-6 in 1991 and Woody Widenhofer was 3-8 in 1997. Johnson was 2-10 in his first season in 2002.

David Williams, the vice chancellor in charge of athletics, thanked Caldwell and his assistants. Most of the coaches came in with Johnson and led Vanderbilt to a Music City Bowl victory in 2008, the program's first bowl appearance since 1982.

The Commodores will be looking for a new coach for the first time since the end of the 2001 season, and it will be the first time Williams has conducted a major coaching search since Vanderbilt eliminated its athletic department.

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Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: jmar on November 27, 2010, 02:31:16 PM
My God , every time a coaching opening comes open in the continental US, Malzahn is mentioned.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: boartitz on November 27, 2010, 02:40:30 PM
My God , every time a coaching opening comes open in the continental US, Malzahn is mentioned.
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/17259/malzahn-at-top-of-vanderbilts-list
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: Jumbo on November 27, 2010, 05:59:33 PM
I would imagine Gus makes more at Auburn than Vandy's  willing to pay.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: Townhallsavoy on November 27, 2010, 06:01:30 PM
I would imagine Gus makes more at Auburn than Vandy's  willing to pay.

Clay Travis (Tennessee reporter/blogger/douchebag) has reported that Vanderbilt is willing to pay $2 million for the right coach.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: JR4AU on November 27, 2010, 06:02:23 PM
I know Malzahn will be offered a HC job soon...several maybe.  I don't think he's ready, but that's not my call, he's going to be offered them.  I hope, for his sake, that he's smart enough not to take a job like Vandy that would be career suicide to a guy that has so little D1 experience to fall back on after he can't win there...and he can't.  He makes a mistake like that, and he could find himself back in the HS ranks after it's determined that his offense is indeed a "gimmicky HS offense" because it doesn't work for him at Vandy with Vandy players. .
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: JR4AU on November 27, 2010, 06:05:12 PM
Clay Travis (Tennessee reporter/blogger/douchebag) has reported that Vanderbilt is willing to pay $2 million for the right coach.

I'm hearing that too...on the net, so FWIW.  I highly doubt that, but if he can score 2.2 Mil to coach Vandy...maybe he will take it.  He better sock some away, it will be the last D1 gig he ever gets probably.  And if Vandy is willing to shell out that much, they either have decided to make a committment to winning football games, or they want him to turn it around as is, and won't give him more than 2 years to do it at that pay grade. 
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: Jumbo on November 27, 2010, 06:12:03 PM
Clay Travis (Tennessee reporter/blogger/douchebag) has reported that Vanderbilt is willing to pay $2 million for the right coach.
He's an uber douche', I can't believe a school without an athletic department would pay that much for a coach. Who's going to interview the candidates? The flag football refs...
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: jmar on November 27, 2010, 06:27:18 PM
I know Malzahn will be offered a HC job soon...several maybe.  I don't think he's ready, but that's not my call, he's going to be offered them.  I hope, for his sake, that he's smart enough not to take a job like Vandy that would be career suicide to a guy that has so little D1 experience to fall back on after he can't win there...and he can't.  He makes a mistake like that, and he could find himself back in the HS ranks after it's determined that his offense is indeed a "gimmicky HS offense" because it doesn't work for him at Vandy with Vandy players. .
I tend to agree. I don't doubt his abilities, I just look at Cutcliffe at Duke where being a doormat of sorts is not the same as the bottom of the SEC. The right job will come up though like everyone here, I hope he hangs around. He can get all of the input he needs by Ted Roof in a situation like I described above. Just sayin.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: Tiger Wench on November 27, 2010, 06:34:22 PM
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The Commodores will be looking for a new coach for the first time since the end of the 2001 season, and it will be the first time Williams has conducted a major coaching search since Vanderbilt eliminated its athletic department.

THAT is why no decent coach would EVER take that job.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: Plainsman94 on November 27, 2010, 06:57:46 PM
Clay Travis (Tennessee reporter/blogger/douchebag) has reported that Vanderbilt is willing to pay $2 million for the right coach.

Doesn't Clay Travis write for the Bleacher Report?

No...wait...that would be giving him too much credibility.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: boartitz on November 27, 2010, 07:53:46 PM
I know Malzahn will be offered a HC job soon...several maybe.  I don't think he's ready, but that's not my call, he's going to be offered them.  I hope, for his sake, that he's smart enough not to take a job like Vandy that would be career suicide to a guy that has so little D1 experience to fall back on after he can't win there...and he can't.  He makes a mistake like that, and he could find himself back in the HS ranks after it's determined that his offense is indeed a "gimmicky HS offense" because it doesn't work for him at Vandy with Vandy players. .
If Gus were to take the Vandy job, it would be a stepping stone. All he has to do is show some sort of improvement to a traditionally bottom dwelling team and await a better offer. He ain't gonna take the Vandy job with aspirations of retiring there.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: JR4AU on November 27, 2010, 08:00:14 PM
If Gus were to take the Vandy job, it would be a stepping stone. All he has to do is show some sort of improvement to a traditionally bottom dwelling team and await a better offer. He ain't gonna take the Vandy job with aspirations of retiring there.

The chances of losing are far greater than the chances of going to a bowl game, which would be the only thing positive that anyone would notice.  Nobody gives a shit if you improve from 2 to 4 or even 5 wins.   He'd be better off to take a job like a La Tech, or or some directional school, where you aren't competing against greater talent every week...where, if you can coach, recruit AND run a program, you can show it.   
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: boartitz on November 27, 2010, 08:38:37 PM
The chances of losing are far greater than the chances of going to a bowl game, which would be the only thing positive that anyone would notice.  Nobody gives a shit if you improve from 2 to 4 or even 5 wins.   He'd be better off to take a job like a La Tech, or or some directional school, where you aren't competing against greater talent every week...where, if you can coach, recruit AND run a program, you can show it.
If you're skeered, man up and say you're skeered.
Million dollar + raise. SEC head coach on my resume. Where's your downside of this option?
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: jmar on November 27, 2010, 09:04:22 PM
If you're skeered, man up and say you're skeered.
Million dollar + raise. SEC head coach on my resume. Where's your downside of this option?
Congratulations to you on the Hog victory.
But you've been talking up Malzahn for a head coaching job since he arrived. He is too smart to take a dead end like Vandy. I think the guy could get a west coast, Texas, or Florida job with patience. That would suit the main element right away with his reputation for high octane offense. Helps when attracting a staff too.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: JR4AU on November 27, 2010, 09:08:42 PM
If you're skeered, man up and say you're skeered.
Million dollar + raise. SEC head coach on my resume. Where's your downside of this option?

blah, blah, blah.  What are you?  13 years old?  I'd like to think you can't really be that stupid.  I'd LIKE to think that.   
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: The Prowler on November 27, 2010, 09:45:51 PM
Yeah I think everyone, that heard Caldwell speak at the SEC Media days, could see that this was definitely not a good fit.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: Lurking Tiger on November 27, 2010, 09:54:11 PM
If you're skeered, man up and say you're skeered.
Million dollar + raise. SEC head coach on my resume. Where's your downside of this option?

Auburn would most certainly up the anty, so there would be no raise.

The downside of this option would be 1-11, 3-9, 1-11.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: RWS on November 27, 2010, 11:19:48 PM
CNS to Vandy.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: GH2001 on November 27, 2010, 11:27:37 PM
CNS to Vandy.

HDN to Vandy....Ole Miss to hire CNS.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: jmar on November 27, 2010, 11:30:16 PM
HDN to Vandy....Ole Miss to hire CNS.
Les to Turdtown
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: Tiger Wench on November 27, 2010, 11:47:43 PM
Les to Meeechigan.  RichRod is done.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: jmar on November 27, 2010, 11:50:38 PM
Les to Meeechigan.  RichRod is done.
Richrod back to WestVa, the circle of life!
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: The Prowler on November 27, 2010, 11:59:58 PM
Les to Meeechigan.  RichRod is done.
I agree, Richrod is done....but I'm going with "Suitcase" Bobby Petrino to Meeeechigan.  That would be a Great hire for them.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: jmar on November 28, 2010, 12:01:58 AM
I agree, Richrod is done....but I'm going with "Suitcase" Bobby Petrino to Meeeechigan.  That would be a Great hire for them.
Now you're on to something Prowler. That works! BOARTITZ?
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: The Prowler on November 28, 2010, 12:09:07 AM
Now you're on to something Prowler. That works! BOARTITZ?
*cricket* *cricket*

Boartitties knows that Coach Petrino is a perfect fit for what the PTB at Michigan wants.  If they call, Arkansas will have to come up with a lot of money.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: jmar on November 28, 2010, 12:26:58 AM
*cricket* *cricket*

Boartitties knows that Coach Petrino is a perfect fit for what the PTB at Michigan wants.  If they call, Arkansas will have to come up with a lot of money.
He must be passed out in his truck bed.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: jmar on November 28, 2010, 01:22:37 AM
Les to Meeechigan.  RichRod is done.
Except that Harbaugh is the guy they truly want.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: The Prowler on November 28, 2010, 03:00:59 AM
Except that Harbaugh is the guy they truly want.
Damn...forgot about him.  They better not put all their eggs in Harbaugh's corner, because the NFL will be calling him soon, if they haven't already.  I'd go with Petrino, 'cause he ain't going back to the NFL.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: boartitz on November 28, 2010, 09:56:53 AM
Congratulations to you on the Hog victory.
But you've been talking up Malzahn for a head coaching job since he arrived. He is too smart to take a dead end like Vandy. I think the guy could get a west coast, Texas, or Florida job with patience. That would suit the main element right away with his reputation for high octane offense. Helps when attracting a staff too.
I think it was Gus himself that said he would look for a head coaching job when the time was right when he took this job. I think the iron is hot this year.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: GH2001 on November 28, 2010, 10:05:33 AM
I think it was Gus himself that said he would look for a head coaching job when the time was right when he took this job. I think the iron is hot this year.

Of all the teams discussed, I think WVU would be the best one to jump on at the moment....

Vandy is a lose lose...

Miami may TOO big of a gig for a guy who has been in D1 only about 5 years....

WVU is a great place to win but not so much where the expectations and glamor are abound.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: jmar on November 28, 2010, 12:10:58 PM
Of all the teams discussed, I think WVU would be the best one to jump on at the moment....

Vandy is a lose lose...

Miami may TOO big of a gig for a guy who has been in D1 only about 5 years....

WVU is a great place to win but not so much where the expectations and glamor are abound.
True Miami is huge especially when it lacks the facilities as has been mentioned by the talking heads. How has it that those that revere the place have let it slide so far for so long? Coaching there and actually being THE MAN there is quite different, especially now, without the benefit of just being handed the mantel and continuing a run at titles each season.

WVa, IMO is only better over Colorado by locale and athletic human beings within driving distance. Pat Dye was a lock for Wyoming. Best move he never made.                         
Can Richrod return?

Will Muschamp is a good study as is Chris Petersen. One is just beginning and the other can almost have his pick and neither want to become Terry Bowden, Jim Donnan or even Bob Davie.
Title: Re: Robbie Caldwell Steps down at Vandy
Post by: JR4AU on November 28, 2010, 12:31:18 PM
Except that Harbaugh is the guy they truly want.

Yes, as well as other jobs...Harbaugh is probably the #1 "big time program" coaching prospect out there.  HC experience...good resume and pedigree, and proven he can win.