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Title: Alabama Defense
Post by: Plainsman94 on November 22, 2010, 06:05:03 AM
I keep seeing a large portion of the media calling Alabama the best defense Auburn is going to see all year.

I would have said LSU's defense was better.

Anyone have a clue why they continue to say this?  Is it a statistical comparison or something?
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: bottomfeeder on November 22, 2010, 06:16:31 AM
Cause they are nothing but a bunch of suck asses, that's why.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: The Prowler on November 22, 2010, 07:00:48 AM
Clemson - "They have a lot of speed on Defense, they'll be able to contain Cam Newton and the speed sweeps."

USCe - "#The SEC's #1 rated Defense, they'll be able to stop Cam."

LSU - "The SEC's #1 rated Rush Defense, they'll shut Cam down."
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: djsimp on November 22, 2010, 09:01:00 AM
Well, its just like all the Cam saga shit. They are looking for ratings. Now that there is the IB coming up, they are going to pump up bama to make this look like the biggest game of the century. Well, I mean it is, we already knew that though.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on November 22, 2010, 11:38:44 AM
I kept hearing that all season, my question was always, Who have they stopped?

Their schedule has been a series of creampuff offenses except for South Carolina and Arkansas.  They lost one and nearly lost the other after giving up 350+yds of passing.  Auburn should be able to run and throw on these bums. 

I know the Turd response would be Auburn hasn't stopped anybody either, but at least we can hang half a hundred on the board to make up for it.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 22, 2010, 11:48:37 AM
Not worried about them defensivley.  Yes, they will bring a stout defense and yes, Lord Saybinz will have the most masterful, wonderful, stupendous, outstanding, unbelievable plan ever devised in the history of Coachdom to stop this offense.  But...every team they have played to date has tried and failed at the same thing.  LSU was giving up 83 yards a game on the ground coming in.  What did AU rush for...440?  The UGladites were allowing barely over a 100 a game and were torched for 3 times that much.  In my opinion, UGA did the best job so far in "containing" Cam and making him earn his yards.  He still went off for 153 on the ground. 

All the hype and trash talk and planning and scheming won't do shit when #2 is just plain bigger, faster and stronger than everyone else on the field.  I don't talk much shit myself and don't think I am now.  That's just a fact.  Until someone proves he can be stopped at this level, it is what it is....deal with it.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Saniflush on November 22, 2010, 12:05:32 PM
People are also overlooking that our run defense is better than bama's.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: djsimp on November 22, 2010, 12:13:51 PM
People are also overlooking that our run defense is better than bama's.

A very valid point that all the other teams we beat would agree with. I don't see this changing this week either.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 22, 2010, 12:19:20 PM
A very valid point that all the other teams we beat would agree with. I don't see this changing this week either.

Big Jeffrey is gonna' make a name for himself in this game.  So without Blanc in the rotation for the first half, who will be the 4th guy in the middle?  Clayton and Fairley will start with Whittaker coming in.  Who gets the reps in the 4th spot? 

So we'll have Nosa and Antoine as usual with who...Lemonier and Dee Ford behind them?   
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Saniflush on November 22, 2010, 12:23:50 PM
Big Jeffrey is gonna' make a name for himself in this game.  So without Blanc in the rotation for the first half, who will be the 4th guy in the middle?  Clayton and Fairley will start with Whittaker coming in.  Who gets the reps in the 4th spot? 

So we'll have Nosa and Antoine as usual with who...Lemonier and Dee Ford behind them?

Yeppers.

#7 total defense against the #6 total highschool gimmicky offense.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 22, 2010, 12:26:30 PM
Yeppers to who as the 4th man in the rotation?  I know they've been very consistent rotating Whittaker and Blanc on the interior and I was trying to recall who has been getting reps after that.  Seems like I've seen Kenneth Carter a lot late in games or against our high school opponents.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Saniflush on November 22, 2010, 12:31:23 PM
Yeppers to who as the 4th man in the rotation?  I know they've been very consistent rotating Whittaker and Blanc on the interior and I was trying to recall who has been getting reps after that.  Seems like I've seen Kenneth Carter a lot late in games or against our high school opponents.

Sorry I got caught up reading the rest of your post and was having the blood go to a different part of my body. 
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Token on November 22, 2010, 12:46:52 PM
Bama's saving grace on defense this season has been turnovers. Pass rushing has been non existent for the most part. They have also had a hard time containing ANYTHING coming around the edge.  McCaleb on a speed sweep worries me more than Cam gashing us. Our ends and linebackers are big enough to take on Cam. Not to say Cam won't get his yards, but I am confident that Saban will have a better plan to defend Cam than anyone else Auburn has played. Plus, regardless of what yall say, Auburn hasn't  had a test on the road like they will face Friday. Kentucky has never been a tough place to play and they had Auburn on the ropes. 
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 22, 2010, 12:49:41 PM
who will be the 4th guy in the middle? 

Kenneth Carter
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Godfather on November 22, 2010, 12:51:48 PM
Plus, regardless of what yall say, Auburn hasn't  had a test on the road like they will face Friday. Kentucky has never been a tough place to play and they had Auburn on the ropes.

That was like last year and a 1000 gimmicky yards ago.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 22, 2010, 12:53:33 PM
I don't think on the road makes much difference at all.  Crowds are great and all and may will a team through a tight, close game by keeping them inspired.  But, once a game starts for the most part, it's about execution, plain and simple.  Agreed on the road tests and I'm sure this will easily be the best team AU faces.  I would counter the UK argument by saying that even The Chin just recently admitted that they were hesitant to turn Newton loose up to that point.  It was right about that game that the staff realized that he literally can't be stopped and you started seeing his carry totals and overall contributions rise tremendously.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 22, 2010, 12:57:11 PM
Bama's saving grace on defense this season has been turnovers. Pass rushing has been non existent for the most part. They have also had a hard time containing ANYTHING coming around the edge.  McCaleb on a speed sweep worries me more than Cam gashing us. Our ends and linebackers are big enough to take on Cam. Not to say Cam won't get his yards, but I am confident that Saban will have a better plan to defend Cam than anyone else Auburn has played. Plus, regardless of what yall say, Auburn hasn't  had a test on the road like they will face Friday. Kentucky has never been a tough place to play and they had Auburn on the ropes.

You are obviously forgetting about the Gray out we had to endure in Oxford.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 22, 2010, 12:58:12 PM
You are obviously forgetting about the Gray out we had to endure in Oxford.

Plus, Ole Miss scored first.  Talk about your adversity.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Godfather on November 22, 2010, 01:12:48 PM
The bottom line for me is this...

Can your offense score enough points to keep up with ours?

Statistically Arkansas and Kentucky have better offenses than bama.
Scoring wise Arkansas is better than bama's with Kentucky, Georgia and South Carolina all within 2 points of bama.

I'm just not seeing it, no matter what stadium we play in.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: djsimp on November 22, 2010, 01:56:23 PM
The bottom line for me is this...

Can your offense score enough points to keep up with ours?

Statistically Arkansas and Kentucky have better offenses than bama.
Scoring wise Arkansas is better than bama's with Kentucky, Georgia and South Carolina all within 2 points of bama.

I'm just not seeing it, no matter what stadium we play in.

It fits with "us against the world". The more the merrier at this point. "WE COMIN!"
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: AWK on November 22, 2010, 02:39:27 PM
Bama's saving grace on defense this season has been turnovers. Pass rushing has been non existent for the most part. They have also had a hard time containing ANYTHING coming around the edge.  McCaleb on a speed sweep worries me more than Cam gashing us. Our ends and linebackers are big enough to take on Cam. Not to say Cam won't get his yards, but I am confident that Saban will have a better plan to defend Cam than anyone else Auburn has played. Plus, regardless of what yall say, Auburn hasn't  had a test on the road like they will face Friday. Kentucky has never been a tough place to play and they had Auburn on the ropes.
If you have someone "on the ropes", you generally don't lose...by an 80 yard game winning drive.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: djsimp on November 22, 2010, 02:42:11 PM
If you have someone "on the ropes", you generally don't lose...by an 80 yard game winning drive.

Auburn = Mohamed Ali?
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: AWK on November 22, 2010, 02:43:14 PM
Auburn = Mohamed Ali?
We are the dirty school evaaaaaa.  Cam Newton dodged the draft.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Token on November 22, 2010, 03:12:10 PM
If you have someone "on the ropes", you generally don't lose...by an 80 yard game winning drive.
.  I thought after last years Iron Bowl,  that was the exact definition for "having a team on the ropes".  A few of you are full of shit. I'll let ya'll figure it out.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 22, 2010, 03:14:29 PM
.  I thought after last years Iron Bowl,  that was the exact definition for "having a team on the ropes".  A few of you are full of shit. I'll let ya'll figure it out.

I thought the ropes cared who was actually ahead when someone is on them.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Saniflush on November 22, 2010, 03:15:49 PM
Being on the ropes chafes.

Being tied with ropes is fun.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 22, 2010, 03:26:52 PM
Being on the ropes chafes.

Being tied with ropes is fun.

Smoking rope ain't too bad either.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: The Prowler on November 22, 2010, 05:37:30 PM
Where does Auburn's Rush Defense rank Nationally?
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: JR4AU on November 22, 2010, 06:30:06 PM
The bottom line for me is this...

Can your offense score enough points to keep up with ours?

Statistically Arkansas and Kentucky have better offenses than bama.
Scoring wise Arkansas is better than bama's with Kentucky, Georgia and South Carolina all within 2 points of bama.

I'm just not seeing it, no matter what stadium we play in.

Bammers defensive numbers are a bit inflated, having just come off a run of less than juggernautish offensive teams in Tenn., LSU, MSU and GA State.  That said, they're good, but LSU hung nearly twice the number of rushing yards on them that bammer normally gives up.  I think we can run the ball better than LSU.  And, of course, we're not one dimensional, and this aint the smothering bammer D of 2009, that we still had marginal success against. 
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: The Prowler on November 22, 2010, 07:22:08 PM
Found it....Auburn's ranked 11th Nationally in Rush Defense, SPuat is 22nd.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2010&rpt=IA_teamrushdef&site=org&div=IA&dest=O

Here's all the other Stats

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2010&div=IA&site=org
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Jumbo on November 22, 2010, 07:42:49 PM
Smoking rope ain't too bad either.
If someone offers toot at a party it's disrespectful to turn it down!
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: No Huddle on November 22, 2010, 08:25:50 PM
We still have the QB taker outer MD. Fairly wishes he was Marcel.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: The Prowler on November 22, 2010, 08:50:25 PM
We still have the QB taker outer MD. Fairly wishes he was Marcel.
bammers wish MD was Nick Fairley. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfHOQAT0-Mk
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: Tiger Six on November 23, 2010, 08:58:28 AM
This is the best Alabama defense since '92.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: djsimp on November 23, 2010, 09:20:31 AM
We still have the QB taker outer MD. Fairly wishes he was Marcel.

I needed a good laugh this morning.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: The Prowler on November 24, 2010, 01:57:44 AM
This is the best Alabama defense since '92.
Unless it isn't.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: The Prowler on November 27, 2010, 06:26:32 AM
I needed a good laugh this morning.
Yup....it's still HILARIOUS.  Especially watching Fairley have his way with the SPuat OLine whenever he wanted to and watching Byron Isom manhandle Marcel whenever he wanted to.....hey bammers, which QB got Closelined, Chokeslammed, Torture Racked & got the Piledriver put on him?  I'll give y'all a hint, one is Superman & the other thinks he's Batman.
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: djsimp on November 27, 2010, 08:54:28 AM
Yup....it's still HILARIOUS.  Especially watching Fairley have his way with the SPuat OLine whenever he wanted to and watching Byron Isom manhandle Marcel whenever he wanted to.....hey bammers, which QB got Closelined, Chokeslammed, Torture Racked & got the Piledriver put on him?  I'll give y'all a hint, one is Superman & the other thinks he's Batman.

TKO!
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: jmar on November 27, 2010, 09:10:25 AM
What is the status on the Murray kid? Seriously, can he play?
Title: Re: Alabama Defense
Post by: GH2001 on November 27, 2010, 10:13:06 AM
What is the status on the Murray kid? Seriously, can he play?

He is fine. That play with Fairley getting "pushed" into his knee was way overblown.

Still not sure why Ga is not without half their team after leaving the bench.