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Title: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: The Prowler on November 09, 2010, 02:59:45 PM
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FoxSports.com writer Thayer Evans published a story today alleging Auburn quarterback Cameron Newton "had three different instances of academic cheating while attending the University of Florida." The story follows several days of editorial attacks on Newton by Thayer, a former stringer for the New York Times.

Two independent sources with detailed knowledge of the UF academic discipline system during the period in question have disputed the Evans story. According to the sources, no allegations of academic impropriety regarding Cam Newton were sent to the Florida Student Conduct Committee at any time either during or after Newton's time at UF.

"Nothing was reported, officially or unofficially" says one source, who did not wish to be identified. "The formal process is for allegations to go through the Student Conduct Committee. If [any allegations against Newton] didn't follow that process, then they didn't follow the rules." Newton enrolled at Florida in the spring of 2007 and transferred to Blinn College in January of 2009.

Per the source, no charges against Newton were ever brought to the Student Conduct Committee during that time. The source also indicated that no Florida football players have ever been officially reported to the UF Student Conduct Committee for academic violations during Urban Meyer's tenure. According to the source, student arrests are subject to additional discipline via the Student Conduct Committee, but it is not uncommon for students in such situations "to cut a deal with the Dean of Students' office before coming to the Committee." At the time of Newton's enrollment at UF, if attempts to informally settle academic disputes failed, academic violations issues were referred from the Dean of Students office to the Student Conduct Committee, where a hearing chaired by a member of the UF Honor Board would be conducted.

No charges against Newton, to the first source's knowledge, were ever sent to the UF Student Conduct Committee. A second, independently verified source, also with detailed knowledge of the Florida student disciplinary system, took issue with Thayer's assertion that Newton, had he actually been charged with academic misconduct, would have been in danger of expulsion. "I worked ten or twelve cases," the second source says, "and I never saw anyone get expelled." The second source, who also declined to be identified, also says no charges regarding Newton were ever brought to the Student Conduct Committee, noting, "If Cameron Newton would have come before the committee, we would have known about it."

The second source also expressed indignation over the possible leak of student information to the media. "That is completely confidential. We're not allowed to say anything to anyone. "The person that was in charge of [students'] academic records is a very ethical person. Someone like him would never have released anything."

http://auburn.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1150363

So, now Florida will be on the hook alongside MSU.  LMAO, I hope they keep talking.  Because if Cam cheated "multiple times" but was allowed to still play, then UF would've been playing an ineligible player in whatever year this happened.  Sounds more like Thayer made it up.
Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: AUChizad on November 09, 2010, 03:15:04 PM
So every "source" in every piece of Thayer's three hit pieces have all denied everything he's stated.

This guy is full of shit to the brim.
Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: djsimp on November 09, 2010, 03:15:55 PM
Commence emailing to FoxSports.
Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: wesfau2 on November 09, 2010, 03:18:10 PM
So every "source" in every piece of Thayer's three hit pieces have all denied everything he's stated.

This guy is full of shit to the brim.

To play devil's advocate...

What if he's accurately reporting what these "sources" told him....BUT he was told not to run with the story.  The sources are trying to distance themselves?
Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: djsimp on November 09, 2010, 03:23:57 PM
To play devil's advocate...

What if he's accurately reporting what these "sources" told him....BUT he was told not to run with the story.  The sources are trying to distance themselves?

Either way it destroys Thayers credibility.
Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: wesfau2 on November 09, 2010, 03:29:34 PM
Either way it destroys Thayers credibility.

I agree.

There are quotes from UF folks (think they are members of the committee charged with reviewing cheating allegations and whatnot) over on ITAT.  They say basically: We never saw a Cam Newton case come before the committee and we've never had a football player charged with cheating under Meyer's reign.
Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: wesfau2 on November 09, 2010, 03:37:44 PM
Apparently John Kincaid read this Rivals article on the air.

Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 09, 2010, 03:38:04 PM
Looks like the worm is finally starting to turn.
Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: chinook on November 09, 2010, 03:40:37 PM
Looks like the worm is finally starting to turn.

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Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: djsimp on November 09, 2010, 03:50:32 PM
Does someone have the email pertinent to the situation for Fox Sports and ESPN?
Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on November 09, 2010, 04:03:21 PM
Yet ESPN is STILLLLL reporting as if it's true.  NO regard or mention of UF sources disputing cheating claim.

Fuck me.
Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 09, 2010, 04:17:41 PM
Yet ESPN is STILLLLL reporting as if it's true.  NO regard or mention of UF sources disputing cheating claim.

phuk me.

Did you expect them to recant?  I don't.  I think they have an agenda and facts be damned.
Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: JR4AU on November 09, 2010, 06:30:03 PM
To play devil's advocate...

What if he's accurately reporting what these "sources" told him....BUT he was told not to run with the story.  The sources are trying to distance themselves?

The problem with some of these new age media hacks is they don't know what a source is.  They think anybody peddling something juicy is a "source" as long as they can find someone else that has heard the same rumor, they've "verified" their source and info.
Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: djsimp on November 09, 2010, 08:53:47 PM
http://college-football-blog.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/25757720?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_001
Title: Re: UF Academic people had NO KNOWLEDGE of cheating...
Post by: Catphish Tilly on November 09, 2010, 09:46:15 PM
Ok so I lurk a lot more than post but I just have to be frank about this shit... I'm not that far removed from college life on The Plains myself but if I WERE in college and in the presence of greatness: I mean for me personally, it would be the highest honor for Cam to deem my school work worthy of his signature. I smell a fucking nerd.