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Title: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: Ogre on November 05, 2010, 10:43:31 AM
From Scout:

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Newton A "Victim," Sources Say  

Cameron Newton  By Mark Murphy
Inside the Auburn Tigers
Posted Nov 5, 2010 

Sources tell Inside the Auburn Tigers that Auburn University has no evidence of any wrongdoing by Cam Newton or anybody associated with Auburn.

Auburn, Ala.--Sources very close to the Auburn University Athletic Department have told Inside the Auburn Tigers that Auburn has “no evidence whatsoever” of any wrongdoing by any member of the athletic department or by Cameron Newton in the wake of media reports on Thursday that an investigation is being conducted into Newton’s recruitment.

According to reports, agent Kenny Rogers, a former football player at Mississippi State, is being investigated for trying to solicit money from Mississippi State in exchange for having Newton sign with the Bulldogs out of Blinn Junior College in Texas. Cecil Newton, the quarterback’s father, denied that was the case or that there were any improprieties in the recruiting of his son who committed to Auburn last New Year’s Eve, choosing the Tigers over Mississippi State and Oklahoma.

“There is no evidence whatsoever of any contact between Mr. Rogers and anyone on the staff at Auburn University or anyone associated with Auburn University,” the source said.

“There have also been no NCAA allegations made against Auburn University or anybody on the Auburn staff regarding the recruitment of Cam Newton,” the source said.

“This is a really sad and disgusting situation,” the source added. “Cameron Newton and his family have become the victim of a rogue agent with a questionable past and of other people who are out to hurt Cam Newton and his family.”

Auburn officials have had little to say about the matter for the record other than Coach Gene Chizik’s comment that Newton remains eligible to play football at Auburn.

“Concentrate on that comment about Cam Newton being eligible to play at Auburn,” the source said. “That comment is short, but it says a lot. Auburn’s NCAA compliance director (Rich McGlynn) has a reputation for being extremely competent and tough in his position. He believes strongly in following NCAA rules to the letter. If there was any doubt whatsoever about Cam Newton’s status you can be assured that he would have not been on the football field playing for the Tigers this year.”

Commenting on why Auburn is not publicly defending the quarterback and speaking out on the matter, the source said, “In a situation like this the NCAA rules do not allow the university to comment. It is unfortunate that is the case now because members of the Auburn staff believe that Cam did nothing wrong and he is a terrific young man. They really want to speak up in his defense, but their hands are tied at this time.”

 
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: AUChizad on November 05, 2010, 11:03:48 AM
Shit like this should not be premium content, but should be screamed from the rooftops by Auburn beatwriters. I won't hold my breath waiting on that article from Evan Woodberry...
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: War Eagle!!! on November 05, 2010, 11:15:22 AM
Shit like this should not be premium content, but should be screamed from the rooftops by Auburn beatwriters. I won't hold my breath waiting on that article from Evan Woodberry...

It is not premium. I saw the article before posted here and I don't have scout subscription...
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: JR4AU on November 05, 2010, 11:17:41 AM
It is not premium. I saw the article before posted here and I don't have scout subscription...

You can damn well bet no national outlets will run this "speculative shit".
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: AUChizad on November 05, 2010, 11:23:08 AM
Link?
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: AUChizad on November 05, 2010, 11:35:33 AM
Link?
http://auburn.scout.com/2/1018704.html

Answered my own question.
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: RWS on November 05, 2010, 12:21:26 PM
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“Cameron Newton and his family have become the victim of a rogue agent with a questionable past and of other people who are out to hurt Cam Newton and his family.”
Now Nick Saban isn't so much of an asshole on the subject anymore, is he?
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: War Eagle!!! on November 05, 2010, 12:23:31 PM
Now Nick Saban isn't so much of an asshole on the subject anymore, is he?

You're a dumb ass...
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: JR4AU on November 05, 2010, 12:28:45 PM
Now Nick Saban isn't so much of an asshole on the subject anymore, is he?

You had, at times, become somewhat rational in your posts, and less bammerish, then as the season wore on, and Auburn won, and won, and won, you left.  Showing up yesterday, and with this kind of bullshit...you're asking for treatment that would make it look like we laid out the red carpet for Birmingham. 
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 05, 2010, 12:40:40 PM
Now Nick Saban isn't so much of an asshole on the subject anymore, is he?

Why are you speaking?
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: AUChizad on November 05, 2010, 12:46:22 PM
I won't hold my breath waiting for Saban to comment in favor of Cam on this one...
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: RWS on November 05, 2010, 12:53:46 PM
You had, at times, become somewhat rational in your posts, and less bammerish, then as the season wore on, and Auburn won, and won, and won, you left.  Showing up yesterday, and with this kind of bullshit...you're asking for treatment that would make it look like we laid out the red carpet for Birmingham.
I haven't been on in like a week due to more important shit in real life. And I won't be on next week due to surgery. I will send you a doctor's excuse from me posting on here if you want. It has nothing to do with AU doing well, but since you're all pissed off at the world right now, I can see why you're going there. I don't see how my posts in the previous few weeks about how well AU is doing, how I was wrong on Newton, etc, are being irrational or "bammerish". But whatever. Hell, 10 days ago I was putting forth an argument as to why AU should be #1 in the BCS rankings over a few other programs.

My point was Saban was called an asshole and things because of his comments on these rogue agents, and it was all fun and games when it was about Alabama. Now one of those agents is trying to give Cam a bad image, and all of a sudden, this agent is a total bastard. Like Token said in another thread, I don't buy any of this bullshit either, but all of the tinfoil hat wearing AU fans who had a field day with other rumors or situations concerning Alabama are getting a little dose of their own medicine.
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: Token on November 05, 2010, 12:59:03 PM
Prayers sent.
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: Godfather on November 05, 2010, 01:00:33 PM
I haven't been on in like a week due to more important shit in real life. And I won't be on next week due to surgery. I will send you a doctor's excuse from me posting on here if you want.

Hysterectomy?
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: Saniflush on November 05, 2010, 01:05:00 PM
Hysterectomy?

Finally get enough for the sex change?
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: RWS on November 05, 2010, 01:06:25 PM
Hysterectomy?
:bugs:

They're just now getting around to figuring out why my knee has been hurting like a motherfucker the past 6 months and have finally found out I tore my meniscus. I might come on here hyped up on Percocets next week, just to make JR happy. I will probably make less sense than normal though, which is scary in itself.
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: Godfather on November 05, 2010, 01:08:34 PM
:bugs:

They're just now getting around to figuring out why my knee has been hurting like a motherfucker the past 6 months and have finally found out I tore my meniscus. I might come on here hyped up on Percocets next week, just to make JR happy. I will probably make less sense than normal though, which is scary in itself.

Probably all that sitting you do.  You know when you aren't working on the fire departments finances.  :poke:
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: RWS on November 05, 2010, 01:13:26 PM
Probably all that sitting you do.  You know when you aren't working on the fire departments finances.  :poke:
I know. Or working on the sausage festival! It's tough getting my ass out of this chair to take a piss or to go get food, though. At least I can tell my kids 20 years from now "it's an old dispatching injury".
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: AUChizad on November 05, 2010, 01:31:58 PM
I haven't been on in like a week due to more important shit in real life. And I won't be on next week due to surgery. I will send you a doctor's excuse from me posting on here if you want. It has nothing to do with AU doing well, but since you're all pissed off at the world right now, I can see why you're going there. I don't see how my posts in the previous few weeks about how well AU is doing, how I was wrong on Newton, etc, are being irrational or "bammerish". But whatever. Hell, 10 days ago I was putting forth an argument as to why AU should be #1 in the BCS rankings over a few other programs.

My point was Saban was called an asshole and things because of his comments on these rogue agents, and it was all fun and games when it was about Alabama. Now one of those agents is trying to give Cam a bad image, and all of a sudden, this agent is a total bastard. Like Token said in another thread, I don't buy any of this bullshit either, but all of the tinfoil hat wearing AU fans who had a field day with other rumors or situations concerning Alabama are getting a little dose of their own medicine.
Surely even you can tell the difference in these two situations.

Marcell Darius was beyond a doubt, and by his own admission, involved with an agent. He attended the parties in South Florida for star college football players held by an NFL agent. Marcell should have known better. I stand by that today. Saban absolved Dareus of all blame while in the same breath expressing his disgust with those "pimps".

What has Auburn fans livid right now is that everyone that is not completely delusional can see that Newton and Auburn were not involved in this. Auburn knew about this back in July and looked into it. Cecil Newton cooperated completely by turning in financial statements. Auburn and the NCAA knew all of this and played him anyway, and will play him on Saturday. Because some shithead claims that he made dealings WITH MSU on Cam's behalf, when all evidence points to Cam and his family having no knowledge, and certainly having received no payment for it, Cam and the Auburn family is being dragged through the mud.

You wouldn't see this rage from Auburn fans if in the back of our minds we thought Cam really did break an NCAA rule. What has us enraged is that these non-stories have gained national attention as if they have any validity whatsoever, when clearly they don't.
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: GH2001 on November 05, 2010, 01:39:53 PM
Surely even you can tell the difference in these two situations.

Marcell Darius was beyond a doubt, and by his own admission, involved with an agent. He attended the parties in South Florida for star college football players held by an NFL agent. Marcell should have known better. I stand by that today. Saban absolved Dareus of all blame while in the same breath expressing his disgust with those "pimps".

What has Auburn fans livid right now is that everyone that is not completely delusional can see that Newton and Auburn were not involved in this. Auburn knew about this back in July and looked into it. Cecil Newton cooperated completely by turning in financial statements. Auburn and the NCAA knew all of this and played him anyway, and will play him on Saturday. Because some shithead claims that he made dealings WITH MSU on Cam's behalf, when all evidence points to Cam and his family having no knowledge, and certainly having received no payment for it, Cam and the Auburn family is being dragged through the mud.

You wouldn't see this rage from Auburn fans if in the back of our minds we thought Cam really did break an NCAA rule. What has us enraged is that these non-stories have gained national attention as if they have any validity whatsoever, when clearly they don't.


Don't forget the timing......and how urban cryer and fbomb got this non issue into mainstream media.
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 05, 2010, 01:43:35 PM
If John Bond was approached by Rogers last year in what, late November, early December......why has it only become newsworthy almost a year later?
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: RWS on November 05, 2010, 02:04:06 PM
Surely even you can tell the difference in these two situations.

Marcell Darius was beyond a doubt, and by his own admission, involved with an agent. He attended the parties in South Florida for star college football players held by an NFL agent. Marcell should have known better. I stand by that today. Saban absolved Dareus of all blame while in the same breath expressing his disgust with those "pimps".

What has Auburn fans livid right now is that everyone that is not completely delusional can see that Newton and Auburn were not involved in this. Auburn knew about this back in July and looked into it. Cecil Newton cooperated completely by turning in financial statements. Auburn and the NCAA knew all of this and played him anyway, and will play him on Saturday. Because some shithead claims that he made dealings WITH MSU on Cam's behalf, when all evidence points to Cam and his family having no knowledge, and certainly having received no payment for it, Cam and the Auburn family is being dragged through the mud.

You wouldn't see this rage from Auburn fans if in the back of our minds we thought Cam really did break an NCAA rule. What has us enraged is that these non-stories have gained national attention as if they have any validity whatsoever, when clearly they don't.
I'm not comparing the MD and CN situations directly. For that matter, I'm not aware of MD saying anything other than he didn't know the party was being thrown by an agent. I'll stand corrected if I've missed something on that, though.

I'm more so talking about the rogue agents. The guys that will throw parties, the guys that will accept money, etc. If this shithead agent solicited or accepted something on Newton's behalf without Newton having any knowledge of it, I don't see why it should be Newton's problem. And like Saban said, it makes the agent no better than a pimp.
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: Godfather on November 05, 2010, 02:08:03 PM
If John Bond was approached by Rogers last year in what, late November, early December......why has it only become newsworthy almost a year later?

Uh Oh....

Apparently pictures have surfaced.





(http://www.tigersx.com/images/rogers.jpg)
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: djsimp on November 05, 2010, 02:46:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNnrTNFWcsg

Damn it, I didn't see this song posted already. The puppets give it a nice touch though.
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 05, 2010, 02:48:04 PM
:bugs:

They're just now getting around to figuring out why my knee has been hurting like a motherfucker the past 6 months and have finally found out I tore my meniscus. I might come on here hyped up on Percocets next week, just to make JR happy. I will probably make less sense than normal though, which is scary in itself.

I still have a few Lortabs left if you need them...let me know.
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: Saniflush on November 05, 2010, 02:56:40 PM
I still have a few Lortabs left if you need them...let me know.

Fuck you.  I called dibs.
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 05, 2010, 02:58:18 PM
Fuck you.  I called dibs.

Oh, then nevermind.
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: AUChizad on November 05, 2010, 09:52:17 PM
I won't hold my breath waiting for Saban to comment in favor of Cam on this one...
He was just asked point blank by Rece Davis at halftime of this game tonight and he sidestepped the question by saying some bullshit about how they wouldn't recruit players that get themselves into that situation... :taunt:
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: RWS on November 05, 2010, 09:58:47 PM
I still have a few Lortabs left if you need them...let me know.
Shiiiiit, I have Lortabs and Percocets.
Title: Re: Newton a "Victim"
Post by: jmar on November 06, 2010, 11:55:29 AM
Shiiiiit, I have Lortabs and Percocets.
Being a phuked-up Cam-lovin' Bamer fan is no way to go through life son.