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Title: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: Tiger Wench on October 18, 2010, 04:12:30 PM
How THA HAYELL do you miss the call on whether or not a DAMN FIELD GOAL IS GOOD?!?!?!?!?

And for the record - it was NOT GOOD!!!!  Makes you wonder if he even looked up?

Anyone want to research and see who the officiating crew was?

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Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: RWS on October 18, 2010, 04:15:28 PM
The crew with the one ref with bug eyes who always looks like he's about to shit his pants usually sucks. Not sure if that was them.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: JR4AU on October 18, 2010, 05:36:02 PM
How THA HAYELL do you miss the call on whether or not a DAMN FIELD GOAL IS GOOD?!?!?!?!?

And for the record - it was NOT GOOD!!!!  Makes you wonder if he even looked up?

Anyone want to research and see who the officiating crew was?

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Definitely an embarrassing moment, a "I need a vacation now" moment, but it's not a missed call..it was a brain fart...he gave the correct signal at the end and there was no controversy about it at all. 
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: boartitz on October 18, 2010, 08:37:33 PM
How THA HAYELL do you miss the call on whether or not a DAMN FIELD GOAL IS GOOD?!?!?!?!?

And for the record - it was NOT GOOD!!!!  Makes you wonder if he even looked up?

Anyone want to research and see who the officiating crew was?

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You talking about field goals? I mean, it's field goals, not real game. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: djsimp on October 18, 2010, 08:40:22 PM
One question boartitz, do you think Auburn won this game even w/o that blown call?
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on October 18, 2010, 08:55:32 PM
You talking about field goals? I mean, it's field goals, not real game. :rolleyes:

You can't tell shit from those pics.  Also, do you want to go over the bullshit roughing the passer call, or the bullshit pass interference calls that conveniently let stopped drives continue?  Both teams could argue they got jobbed at different times.  Even if you GET absolute evidence to the call on the field from the Fannin TD, you STILL lose the game more than likely.  Bynes intercepted those passes because your play calling got figured out, even if only for a brief moment.  Your defense couldn't stop Newton.  You even let a less than 100% Dyer run for a 40+ yard TD up the middle.  Your defense didn't start to suck ass because Fannin got a call, or whatever.

Jesus, always a fucking conspiracy.  You lost by more than THREE fucking TD's. 
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: JR4AU on October 18, 2010, 09:03:18 PM
You talking about field goals? I mean, it's field goals, not real game. :rolleyes:

Without a time stamp on those frames, they're meaningless.  Believe it or not, the refs/replay officials, have views and technology we don't have at home. 
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: djsimp on October 18, 2010, 09:10:12 PM
Without a time stamp on those frames, they're meaningless.  Believe it or not, the refs/replay officials, have views and technology we don't have at home.

They got this shit broke down like aerospace engineering over on the woopig.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: boartitz on October 18, 2010, 09:14:42 PM
Without a time stamp on those frames, they're meaningless.  Believe it or not, the refs/replay officials, have views and technology we don't have at home.
Dude, they use the network feed. I have that at home. The SEC does not bring their own array of cameras to use in case of a review.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: boartitz on October 18, 2010, 09:24:47 PM
One question boartitz, do you think Auburn won this game even w/o that blown call?
Yall won this game over and above this call. Do you think this(TD) was a good call? This was 6-7 points in a 20+ point loss. Yeah Arkies are bitching. Wouldn't yall?
Newton and our defense was the difference in this game. He was the guy we had to stop and we didn't do it.
What are yall gonna do if he gets hurt like Mallett did?
He's toting a helluva load. So far so good. He's the best player I've seen on a college football field this year. What do yall have in reserve in his position?
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: JR4AU on October 18, 2010, 09:29:39 PM
Dude, they use the network feed. I have that at home. The SEC does not bring their own array of cameras to use in case of a review.

Thanks for the info...who knew!
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: Token on October 18, 2010, 09:31:09 PM
Thanks for the info...who knew!

By your own admission, not you?
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: JR4AU on October 18, 2010, 09:33:22 PM
By your own admission, not you?

They have the time stamps...on the feed, and have it in sync.  I knew. 
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: boartitz on October 18, 2010, 09:39:30 PM
They have the time stamps...on the feed, and have it in sync.  I knew.
Nice cover.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: JR4AU on October 18, 2010, 09:44:28 PM
Nice cover.

Nice imitation of Chizad and Chopper.   My fucking first post said it..."without the timestamp, they're meaningless".  Fuckstick.  I said "views" in the second post...clear evidence (to a moron looking for any straw to grasp at) that have no clue.  They have views that are timestamped.  BITCH.   
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: boartitz on October 18, 2010, 09:50:54 PM
You can't tell shit from those pics.  Also, do you want to go over the bullshit roughing the passer call, or the bullshit pass interference calls that conveniently let stopped drives continue?  Both teams could argue they got jobbed at different times.  Even if you GET absolute evidence to the call on the field from the Fannin TD, you STILL lose the game more than likely.  Bynes intercepted those passes because your play calling got figured out, even if only for a brief moment.  Your defense couldn't stop Newton.  You even let a less than 100% Dyer run for a 40+ yard TD up the middle.  Your defense didn't start to suck ass because Fannin got a call, or whatever.

Jesus, always a fucking conspiracy.  You lost by more than THREE fucking TD's.
Aren't you an admin or sargeant or something over her now? The rolling eyes icon was the best I could find for sarcasm.Some of yall know me and some of yall I will shoot on site if yall show up at my doorstep trying to sell Mormon Bibles.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: boartitz on October 18, 2010, 09:53:11 PM
Nice imitation of Chizad and Chopper.   My fucking first post said it..."without the timestamp, they're meaningless".  Fuckstick.  I said "views" in the second post...clear evidence (to a moron looking for any straw to grasp at) that have no clue.  They have views that are timestamped.  BITCH.   
It must be hell serving your apprenticeship as a public defender.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: Token on October 18, 2010, 09:53:33 PM
Wait, TigersX has Sergeants? 
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: boartitz on October 18, 2010, 09:54:36 PM
Wait, TigersX has Sergeants?
Ole Miss has Kernels.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: JR4AU on October 18, 2010, 09:56:15 PM
It must be hell serving your apprenticeship as a public defender.

Not nearly as bad as your apprenticeship as a fluff boy.
 
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: JR4AU on October 18, 2010, 09:57:12 PM
Ole Miss has Kernels.

Nope, black bars.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on October 18, 2010, 10:06:41 PM
Aren't you an admin or sargeant or something over her now? The rolling eyes icon was the best I could find for sarcasm.Some of yall know me and some of yall I will shoot on site if yall show up at my doorstep trying to sell Mormon Bibles.

Clickitty the "more" tab...and you'll find many more... including this one:

 :sarcasm:


Sorry, been over at the Rivals main board watching an Arky meltdown and reading about an official response from y'alls AD about the officiating.

It's some seriously entertaining shit.  Of course, it's the main board, so you have hoards of bammuh wife-beaters doing most of the defending in place of the Arkies that struggle to work a keyboard at times.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: boartitz on October 18, 2010, 10:11:44 PM
Nice imitation of Chizad and Chopper.   My fucking first post said it..."without the timestamp, they're meaningless".  Fuckstick.  I said "views" in the second post...clear evidence (to a moron looking for any straw to grasp at) that have no clue.  They have views that are timestamped.  BITCH.   
You have sucked misinformation down your craw like a back seat topless chick in a weenie rally at the local HOG weekend.
You perception of the video feeds for review are flawed. I thought the same as you until I learned better. There are some folks here that have learned the same lesson from the Cobra Killer. The inner working are very interesting.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: djsimp on October 18, 2010, 10:27:09 PM
Yall won this game over and above this call. Do you think this(TD) was a good call? This was 6-7 points in a 20+ point loss. Yeah Arkies are bitching. Wouldn't yall?
Newton and our defense was the difference in this game. He was the guy we had to stop and we didn't do it.
What are yall gonna do if he gets hurt like Mallett did?
He's toting a helluva load. So far so good. He's the best player I've seen on a college football field this year. What do yall have in reserve in his position?
No, I don't think the Fannin TD was a good call, but neither were several of the penalty calls against us that cost us TD's and yes I would be bitching about it.
Newton will not get hurt like Mallet. Newton can bust a move.
Reserve? Trotter, Caudle and Mosley.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: JR4AU on October 18, 2010, 10:36:26 PM
You have sucked misinformation down your craw like a back seat topless chick in a weenie rally at the local HOG weekend.
You perception of the video feeds for review are flawed. I thought the same as you until I learned better. There are some folks here that have learned the same lesson from the Cobra Killer. The inner working are very interesting.

enlighten us replay guru
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: DnATL on October 18, 2010, 10:42:01 PM
AWK is a lawya too, and he may sue for false advertising on this thread title (you know he's going to be disappointed)
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: GH2001 on October 18, 2010, 10:52:55 PM
Is Petrino lobbying on our behalf on the not called Push Off by Childs on the TD or the fantom holding call on Ziemba? Or how about the horrible 4th down spot giving Arky a first down and subsequent TD? Just wondering.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: boartitz on October 18, 2010, 11:03:36 PM
Is Petrino lobbying on our behalf on the not called Push Off by Childs on the TD or the fantom holding call on Ziemba? Or how about the horrible 4th down spot giving Arky a first down and subsequent TD? Just wondering.
Petrino ain't lobbying for shit. We're getting ready for Ole Miss.
Jr, sent me a 1K retainer fee and I will discuss this matter in detail with you for $250/hour.  If you are up to snuff we can both write this off.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: JR4AU on October 18, 2010, 11:16:20 PM
Petrino ain't lobbying for shit. We're getting ready for Ole Miss.
Jr, sent me a 1K retainer fee and I will discuss this matter in detail with you for $250/hour.  If you are up to snuff we can both write this off.

"WE're getting ready for Ole Miss"?  You're on the fucking team now?  The coaching staff? 
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: jmar on October 18, 2010, 11:24:29 PM
"WE're getting ready for Ole Miss"?  You're on the phuking team now?  The coaching staff?
I just can't!
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: boartitz on October 19, 2010, 12:05:43 AM
"WE're getting ready for Ole Miss"?  You're on the fucking team now?  The coaching staff?
You didn't know that? Need sideline passes? I might be able to swing some for the bwain bweeding side. You'll fit right in. Incognito. You can even wear your blue shirt. Wave a towel over your head and you may be on the highlights. Win, win for you.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: Token on October 19, 2010, 08:09:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdsiOiPqBEQ&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: JR4AU on October 19, 2010, 08:14:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdsiOiPqBEQ&feature=player_embedded

 :thumsup:

Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: boartitz on October 19, 2010, 08:24:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdsiOiPqBEQ&feature=player_embedded
:vn:
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: AUChizad on October 19, 2010, 08:27:00 PM
That video is definitely well produced, and well done.

HOWEVER.

I'm sick of seeing that picture like that proves shit. Does everyone that's claiming it's indisputible evidence that it never was a touchdown know the simple rule that it's not where the ball ends up, but whether or not it broke the plain?

If anything, from that picture, it looks like where the defender punched the ball out of Mario's grasp where his right arm is in the picture. It looks to me like the picture was taken about a second after this happened, and the ball, because it was punched backwards, rolled back behind his forward progress, and even after that, it's only about an inch behind the line. His knee, is farther past the line than that, and the spot where he would have been holding the ball is about a foot forward.

Is there not a live video from that angle? One that a screen shot from a second earlier could be presented?

I know I'm in the minority, even amongst Auburn fans, but I say TD.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: JR4AU on October 19, 2010, 08:35:24 PM
That video is definitely well produced, and well done.

HOWEVER.

I'm sick of seeing that picture like that proves shit. Does everyone that's claiming it's indisputible evidence that it never was a touchdown know the simple rule that it's not where the ball ends up, but whether or not it broke the plain?

If anything, from that picture, it looks like where the defender punched the ball out of Mario's grasp where his right arm is in the picture. It looks to me like the picture was taken about a second after this happened, and the ball, because it was punched backwards, rolled back behind his forward progress, and even after that, it's only about an inch behind the line. His knee, is farther past the line than that, and the spot where he would have been holding the ball is about a foot forward.

Is there not a live video from that angle? One that a screen shot from a second earlier could be presented?

I know I'm in the minority, even amongst Auburn fans, but I say TD.

And you and I find some common  ground!  And there most certainly are frames earlier than that, but guess what?  You can't see anything conclusively in them!  It could have just as easily landed on the goal line, and been a fumble.  It only matters where the ball was while in his possession, and if, IF one of those tiny little dimples broke the plane of the front edge of the goal line every so slightly, it's a TD, and a dead ball.  BUT, there's no video angle to prove that didn't happen, and it was ruled a TD on the field.  Lucky break for AU...I think it was a fumble, but really...ONLY GOD knows for sure, and Cam has no reason to dispute what the refs say. 
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: Token on October 19, 2010, 08:47:12 PM
And you and I find some common  ground!  And there most certainly are frames earlier than that, but guess what?  You can't see anything conclusively in them!  It could have just as easily landed on the goal line, and been a fumble.  It only matters where the ball was while in his possession, and if, IF one of those tiny little dimples broke the plane of the front edge of the goal line every so slightly, it's a TD, and a dead ball.  BUT, there's no video angle to prove that didn't happen, and it was ruled a TD on the field.  Lucky break for AU...I think it was a fumble, but really...ONLY GOD knows for sure, and Cam has no reason to dispute what the refs say.

Let me start by saying, I only posted the video because I was impressed with the production, not because I think it in proved one side or the other. 

With that said, and we'll simply have to agree to disagree, but I don't think the official screw up was on the replay.  I don't think the replay was conclusive enough to prove one way or the other.  My problem was the fact the side judge who could see the play, did not at any time (that I saw), signal a touchdown.  If the ruling on the field was a fumble, it would have remained a fumble after the review.  So, the only ref in good position to see the play, ruled it a fumble in live action.  Who in the hell decided it was a touchdown BEFORE the review?  I'd like to know what influenced that decision.  There's no way in hell the replay guys were going to touch that.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: djsimp on October 19, 2010, 09:29:03 PM
Let me start by saying, I only posted the video because I was impressed with the production, not because I think it in proved one side or the other. 

With that said, and we'll simply have to agree to disagree, but I don't think the official screw up was on the replay.  I don't think the replay was conclusive enough to prove one way or the other.  My problem was the fact the side judge who could see the play, did not at any time (that I saw), signal a touchdown.  If the ruling on the field was a fumble, it would have remained a fumble after the review.  So, the only ref in good position to see the play, ruled it a fumble in live action.  Who in the hell decided it was a touchdown BEFORE the review?  I'd like to know what influenced that decision.  There's no way in hell the replay guys were going to touch that.
The ref to rule it a TD was the ref on the far left (looking into the endzone). Honestly, taking my orange and blue glasses off, the ref closet to the action should have the say in this matter. Every ref besides the one mentioned threw a beanbag. The only problem here is that the one that signaled TD has "jurisdiction" in the matter. I am an Auburn fan that says this was a fumble but not an Auburn fan that says this gives the game to Arkansas. This f'n fumble DOES NOT SAY Arkansas wins.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: jmar on October 19, 2010, 09:36:17 PM
This is the worst officiating ever, both ways. But I'm not going to fuel the Arky debate. Auburn drove a phukin stake through their hearts  legitimately and decisively when it counted. They aren't coming back.


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I don't know what this means, but it can't be good for the other team.





Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: GH2001 on October 19, 2010, 09:42:57 PM
That video is definitely well produced, and well done.

HOWEVER.

I'm sick of seeing that picture like that proves shit. Does everyone that's claiming it's indisputible evidence that it never was a touchdown know the simple rule that it's not where the ball ends up, but whether or not it broke the plain?

If anything, from that picture, it looks like where the defender punched the ball out of Mario's grasp where his right arm is in the picture. It looks to me like the picture was taken about a second after this happened, and the ball, because it was punched backwards, rolled back behind his forward progress, and even after that, it's only about an inch behind the line. His knee, is farther past the line than that, and the spot where he would have been holding the ball is about a foot forward.

Is there not a live video from that angle? One that a screen shot from a second earlier could be presented?

I know I'm in the minority, even amongst Auburn fans, but I say TD.

Like JR said, we actually agree here. That picture proves nothing to anyone with half a brain. As you said, it shows where the ball ended up AFTER he lost it. From the TV Replay, it appeared that the nose of the Football went into the very beginning of where the plain of the goal line was. It happened so fast that it appeared to have came out before it broke the plain. Regardless, bad calls on both sides, no doubt.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: boartitz on October 19, 2010, 10:23:27 PM
That video is definitely well produced, and well done.

HOWEVER.

I'm sick of seeing that picture like that proves shit. Does everyone that's claiming it's indisputible evidence that it never was a touchdown know the simple rule that it's not where the ball ends up, but whether or not it broke the plain?

If anything, from that picture, it looks like where the defender punched the ball out of Mario's grasp where his right arm is in the picture. It looks to me like the picture was taken about a second after this happened, and the ball, because it was punched backwards, rolled back behind his forward progress, and even after that, it's only about an inch behind the line. His knee, is farther past the line than that, and the spot where he would have been holding the ball is about a foot forward.

Is there not a live video from that angle? One that a screen shot from a second earlier could be presented?

I know I'm in the minority, even amongst Auburn fans, but I say TD.
You are not a student of Newton's Laws of Gravity, I would guess, but more of the Cam Newton's laws of whatthefuckevar.
That was not a touchdown. Yall still beat us, and by a bigger margin than that one play no matter that play. That was not a touchdown. No fucking way. Bad call by the refs and we have all seen it before. Nothing new for either of our teams.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: GH2001 on October 19, 2010, 10:27:37 PM
Bad calls by the refs on both sides. End of story. SEC Officiating teh suxxor...The ying and yang and all that shit.

FIXT
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: djsimp on October 19, 2010, 10:30:04 PM
I'm just curious, what needs to happen for us to get passed this shit? I mean seriously, the woopig still has ongoing threads about this and we're still talking about this on the X.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: GH2001 on October 19, 2010, 10:34:31 PM
I'm just curious, what needs to happen for us to get passed this shit? I mean seriously, the woopig still has ongoing threads about this and we're still talking about this on the X.

And Bama thinks WE'RE insecure?

Best thing? We move forward and let them 'waller' in the mud about the 'TD that wasn't' for eternity.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: djsimp on October 19, 2010, 10:50:10 PM
And Bama thinks WE'RE insecure?

Best thing? We move forward and let them 'waller' in the mud about the 'TD that wasn't' for eternity.

It seems to be the soul bearing truth. Fuck me or anybody else for thinking of the next opponent for we all know the players on the team are certainly not doing so.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: GH2001 on October 19, 2010, 10:56:57 PM
Drop it simp - they are getting ready for Ole Miss. No time for distractions.
Title: Re: SEC Officials Suck - Video Evidence...
Post by: Token on October 20, 2010, 12:16:55 AM
http://www.kfsm.com/sports/kfsm-news-eye-doctor-offer-for-refs,0,498270.story

Wow.  Those fuckers are taking that shit personal.