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Title: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: Godfather on October 06, 2010, 12:26:47 PM
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Patriots send Randy Moss to Vikings
ESPN.com news services

Randy Moss' improbable return to Minnesota has become reality.

The Patriots have completed a blockbuster trade sending the Pro Bowl wide receiver back to Minnesota.

The Vikings will send a third-round 2011 draft pick to the Vikings in return, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

The Patriots now have two picks in each of the first four rounds of the 2011 draft -- their own picks and a first-round pick from Oakland, a second-round pick from Carolina, the third-round pick from Minnesota and a fourth-rounder from Denver.

A source close to Moss told ESPN NFL senior analyst Chris Mortensen that Patriots coach Bill Belichick informed Moss of the trade on Wednesday morning by telephone. The source said the conversation was cordial, with both men expressing appreciation for the time they spent together.

Moss will report to the Vikings on Wednesday and is said to be "excited" about returning to his original team with Brett Favre at quarterback, the source said. No contract extension talks have been conducted, but it is expected the two sides will have a discussion later in the day, the source said.

FoxSports.com earlier reported the trade talks.

The seven-time Pro Bowl receiver is in the final year of his four-year contract with New England and has voiced his displeasure with being in limbo.

"When you have done so much and put so much work in, it kind of feels like I am not wanted," Moss said before the season began on Sept. 6. "I am taking that in stride and playing my final year out and whatever the future holds is what it holds, but it is kind of a bad feeling -- feeling not wanted. It is not like my production has gone down."

Moss made similar comments during a press conference following the Patriots' season-opening victory over the Bengals. The next day, he apologized for the timing of his remarks and said he loves playing in New England.

But the Boston Herald, citing an unnamed source, reported on Tuesday that Moss wanted out of New England after a Week 1 win on Sept. 12, telling his agent to ask the Patriots to trade him.

Although the Patriots crushed the Dolphins on Monday night, Moss did not have a catch -- the first time that's happened for him in a New England uniform.

Moss and Belichick did not speak or even see each other on Tuesday, a league source told Schefter.

Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has been an unabashed fan of Moss since the receiver arrived in New England prior to the 2007 season. The two hooked up for 23 of Brady's record 50 touchdown passes that season. Last season, Brady came to Moss' defense when a Panthers defensive back questioned Moss' effort. And after Moss said he didn't feel wanted by the Patriots a few weeks ago, Brady again came out strong in support of Moss.

"Randy is important, was important, will be important, especially from my standpoint as a quarterback," Brady said during an interview on Boston sports radio station WEEI. "I love Randy and I'd love to play with him for a long time."

Moss, 33, has only nine catches for 139 yards and three TDs through four games this season. That comes after hauling in 83 passes for 1,264 yards and 13 touchdowns last season. His career year came in his first with the Pats, when he caught 98 passes for 1,493 yards and 23 TDs, an NFL record.

The Vikings have been looking for help at receiver for Favre, but they were unable to work out a deal for the Chargers' Vincent Jackson.

Pro Bowl receiver Sidney Rice is sidelined for at least the first six weeks of the season because of a hip injury and Percy Harvin has struggled all season with migraine headaches.

Without the deep threat that he had in Rice, Favre's production has dropped dramatically. The Vikings have lost two of their first three games and their receiving group lacks the prototypical big-play receiver who can outjump smaller cornerbacks for passes down the field.

That's Moss in a nutshell.

Moss immediately energized a lagging franchise when he was chosen in the first round in 1998. He averaged 19.0 yards per catch and hauled in 17 TDs as a rookie to help the team reach the NFC title game. His first season coincided with a string of sellouts at the drab Metrodome that remains going to this day.

The move would no doubt delight Favre, who will turn 41 later this month. He openly campaigned for the Packers to acquire Moss toward the end of his time in Green Bay. But the Patriots ultimately ended up parting with just a fourth-round pick to pry Moss away from the Raiders, and Favre privately fumed at the swing and miss by the Green Bay front office.

Favre was traded to the Jets a year later and signed a two-year deal with the Vikings last season.

The Vikings made room for Moss on their roster by trading defensive end Jayme Mitchell to the Cleveland Browns for an undisclosed 2012 draft pick. The teams agreed in principle to the deal Tuesday, but didn't formally announce it until Mitchell passed his physical Wednesday.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 06, 2010, 12:40:56 PM
2 keys here.  Final year of his contract for a 12 year vet at age 33.  Not gonna' re-sign him long term at that age.  May as well get some value for him.  2nd, the loss of Rice made this a must for the Vikings since Favre has no go-to pass catcher.  Good deal all the way around.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: wesfau2 on October 06, 2010, 12:43:44 PM
2 keys here.  Final year of his contract for a 12 year vet at age 33.  Not gonna' re-sign him long term at that age.  May as well get some value for him.  2nd, the loss of Rice made this a must for the Vikings since Favre has no go-to pass catcher.  Good deal all the way around.


I agree.  Didn't the Pats only give a 6th round pick to get him anyway?

This will make that Vikings offense click again as Moss gets doubled and Harvin, Shiancoe and Peterson can get some looks.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: AWK on October 06, 2010, 01:04:24 PM
Moss and Peterson on the field at the same time.  Enough said.  This will be a season changer.  The Patriots will regret this when they have to play the Vikings on Halloween.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: djsimp on October 06, 2010, 01:42:42 PM
Moss and Peterson on the field at the same time.  Enough said.  This will be a season changer.  The Patriots will regret this when they have to play the Vikings on Halloween.

Yep, the Pats have screwed themselves on this one. With Rice being hurt, Favre needed Moss and I guarantee he is excited about it. I heard Brew-ski at lunch talking about how well Moss does with fresh starts. THis just totally changed the season for the Vikings.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: Tiger Wench on October 06, 2010, 03:16:13 PM
Randy Moss is one of the biggest whiners in the NFL.  I had high hopes for him learning to be a team player when he first signed with New England - cause Lord knows he was not one before - but this just shows that nothing really changed.  He is T.O. with actual talent.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 06, 2010, 03:22:25 PM
Randy Moss is one of the biggest whiners in the NFL.  I had high hopes for him learning to be a team player when he first signed with New England - cause Lord knows he was not one before - but this just shows that nothing really changed.  He is T.O. with actual talent.

Hard to say.  I was happy to see him go to N.E. and he has been pretty low key while performing well. You do hear this kind of thing a lot when guys get in this situation.  Still good players on the back side of their careers.  He's a special talent but 33 at a skill position in the NFL means your days are numbered.  I'm sure he was happy in N.E. playing with Brady and wanted them to make a long term commitment to him.  They more than likely looked at having a 35 year old receiver in a couple of years and paying him mega-kwazillions.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: Godfather on October 06, 2010, 03:49:10 PM
and paying him mega-kwazillions.

That's H-a-m-n-e-r rich
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 06, 2010, 03:55:24 PM
That's H-a-m-n-e-r rich

Stop...Hamnertime.  Can't touch dis'.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: AWK on October 06, 2010, 04:25:12 PM
Randy Moss is one of the biggest whiners in the NFL.  I had high hopes for him learning to be a team player when he first signed with New England - cause Lord knows he was not one before - but this just shows that nothing really changed.  He is T.O. with actual talent.
Um, I would have to disagree 100%.  Since he has been in New England, he has been nothing but a team player.  No whining, no off the field problems, nothing...  The only time he said anything this year was after the first game, when he said that "He would love to have a contract extension with the Patriots, but right now he is just focused on the season."  I am paraphrasing, but that is an accurate summary.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: wesfau2 on October 06, 2010, 04:33:06 PM
The only time he said anything this year was after the first game, when he said that "He would love to have a contract extension with the Patriots, but right now he is just focused on the season."  I am paraphrasing, but that is an accurate summary.

He did claim to be "underappreciated" in NE.

That's kind of whiny for a No. 1 receiver.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: AWK on October 06, 2010, 04:34:38 PM
He did claim to be "underappreciated" in NE.

That's kind of whiny for a No. 1 receiver.
He said that because they hadn't talked to him at all regarding his contract.  After all he has done at New England, I think that is fair to say.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: wesfau2 on October 06, 2010, 04:36:46 PM
He said that because they hadn't talked to him at all regarding his contract.  After all he has done at New England, I think that is fair to say.

Say to his agent, Belichek and Kraft, sure.

Say to the media?  Whiny, bitch-made shit.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: AWK on October 06, 2010, 04:42:23 PM
Say to his agent, Belichek and Kraft, sure.

Say to the media?  Whiny, bitch-made shit.
They asked the question, and it's true.  Saying he isn't getting the ball more, he needs more press, etc... is whiny.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 06, 2010, 04:46:07 PM
Leon can't do everything.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: wesfau2 on October 06, 2010, 04:51:58 PM
Leon can't do everything.


Reporter: There's no "I" in "team", Leon.

Leon: Yeah, well, there ain't no "we" either.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: wesfau2 on October 06, 2010, 04:53:05 PM
They asked the question, and it's true.

Well, the level at which NE "appreciates" Randy is a matter of subjective opinion, I would think.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: djsimp on October 06, 2010, 05:13:48 PM
Regardless if Moss is whiny or not, this move to the Vikings is good for him and Favre.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: wesfau2 on October 06, 2010, 05:14:26 PM
Regardless if Moss is whiny or not, this move to the Vikings is good for him and Favre.

Fa shizzle.
Title: Re: Moss back to Vikings
Post by: Townhallsavoy on October 06, 2010, 06:31:44 PM
If Favre is still Favre, the Vikings will be making a serious Super Bowl run this year.

However, I'm still not sold that Favre is still Favre.  He looked really old and worn out in the game against New Orleans.