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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Aubie16 on August 12, 2010, 04:40:12 PM
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Stealing an idea from elsewhere...If you could put together an All-Star Coaching Staff consisting of past Auburn coaches, who would be on it?
The only rules are the coach has to have coached that position at some point in their Auburn career and you have to have an actual memory of that coach (ex: you can't use John Heisman, Mike Donahue etc.) Remember you are only allowed 1 Head Coach and 9 Assistants.
Mine:
HC: Pat Dye
OC/QB: Gus Malzahn
RB: Curtis Luper
WR: Trooper Taylor
OL: Jeff Grimes
DC/CB: Gene Chizik
DL: Don Dunn
LB: Joe Whitt
S: Tommy Thigpen
ST: Eddie Gran
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HC: Pat Dye
OC/QB: Tommy Bowden
RB: Eddie Gran
WR: Trooper Taylor
OL: Neil Calloway
DC: Wayne Hall
DL: Tracy Rocker
LB: Joe Whitt
S: Tommy Thigpen
ST: Eddie Gran
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HC: Pat Dye
OC/QB: Tommy Bowden
RB: Eddie Gran
WR: Trooper Taylor
OL: Neil Calloway
DC: Wayne Hall
DL: Tracy Rocker
LB: Joe Whitt
S: Tommy Thigpen
ST: Eddie Gran
This other than substituting Malzahn for Bowden at OC. Oh, and no to Eddie Gran at special teams. Have no clue who, but I was never impressed by that choice.
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This other than substituting Malzahn for Bowden at OC. Oh, and no to Eddie Gran at special teams. Have no clue who, but I was never impressed by that choice.
I put him on more to recruit S. Florida than anything.
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This other than substituting Malzahn for Bowden at OC. Oh, and no to Eddie Gran at special teams. Have no clue who, but I was never impressed by that choice.
I honestly have forgotten the guy who was in charge of the Special Teams the first few years for Dye (and teh googles obviously were born too late), but he was a good 'un.
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I put him on more to recruit S. Florida than anything.
Speaking of...
Recruiting Coordinator: Rodney Garner
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I always got the impression that CTT's staff was full and couldn't hire a ST corch so they just said, "Who wants to corch special teams? I'm not gonna' do it. Not me...don't know a thing about it. Don't look at me. Hey, what about Gran? Whoa, don't put that shit on me. Hey, let's draw straws....."
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Speaking of...
Recruiting Coordinator: Rodney Garner
Ding ding ding.
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Speaking of...
Recruiting Coordinator: Rodney Garner
Who are you taking off and what position will Rodney coach? You only get 9 assistant coaches. The recruiting coordinator is also an on the field coach at almost every school I'm aware of. TE's? Is that the only thing he coached at Auburn? I don't remember.
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Stealing an idea from elsewhere...If you could put together an All-Star Coaching Staff consisting of past Auburn coaches, who would be on it?
The only rules are the coach has to have coached that position at some point in their Auburn career and you have to have an actual memory of that coach (ex: you can't use John Heisman, Mike Donahue etc.) Remember you are only allowed 1 Head Coach and 9 Assistants.
Mine:
HC: Pat Dye
OC/QB: Gus Malzahn
RB: Curtis Luper
WR: Trooper Taylor
OL: Jeff Grimes
DC/CB: Gene Chizik
DL: Don Dunn
LB: Joe Whitt
S: Tommy Thigpen
ST: Eddie Gran
6/10 being on the current staff (including Chizik), and bad.
And you could make a case to count Dye as well, since he's always around the program still.
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I honestly have forgotten the guy who was in charge of the Special Teams the first few years for Dye (and teh googles obviously were born too late), but he was a good 'un.
I'm not sure who the first one was, but in '87, believe it or not, he was a volunteer. And old as hell. Paul Davis.
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I'm not sure who the first one was, but in '87, believe it or not, he was a volunteer. And old as hell. Paul Davis.
That is him. I remember that he was a volunteer coach, and he seemed to always have the ST solid back then.
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DC: Wayne Hall
With Chiz a close second.
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DC: Wayne Hall
With Chiz a close second.
I certainly like Gus, but I'd be hard pressed, if I had to win one big game, AND had the players to compete in that game, to not go with Terry Bowden as OC. Dude counldn't 'croot, and had other faults as well, but he knew offense.
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I certainly like Gus, but I'd be hard pressed, if I had to win one big game, AND had the players to compete in that game, to not go with Terry Bowden as OC. Dude counldn't 'croot, and had other faults as well, but he knew offense.
But even he wasn't as effective once the Tommah Gun left him.
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But even he wasn't as effective once the Tommah Gun left him.
Tommy left in '96, about the time the talent leve fell off a cliff. Hence my qualifier: "with the players to compete". In fact, I don't know an OC that can make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
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Tommy left in '96, about the time the talent leve fell off a cliff. Hence my qualifier: "with the players to compete". In fact, I don't know an OC that can make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
I think things started going down after they started running Tommy's offense. If I am not mistaken, the first two years, they ran the existing offense or close to it. There was definitely an issue the first two years that allowed the group that was there to win all those games, and I don't think it was Tommy's offense. Somebody with better info may know the whole inside scoop.
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I think things started going down after they started running Tommy's offense. If I am not mistaken, the first two years, they ran the existing offense or close to it. There was definitely an issue the first two years that allowed the group that was there to win all those games, and I don't think it was Tommy's offense. Somebody with better info may know the whole inside scoop.
Simple answer...new staffs don't come in and run the old staff's offense. Especially an offensive minded staff of Bowdens. What made them win was good players, and a refreshed attitude of the new staff.
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Simple answer...new staffs don't come in and run the old staff's offense. Especially an offensive minded staff of Bowdens. What made them win was good players, and a refreshed attitude of the new staff.
Actually you are wrong.
I got it backwards. Who was the OC when Terry came to AU? Who was the OC after Terry got to AU? Therefore the new coaching staff ran the old coaching staff's plays.
Now that I have my timeline, I remember what I was told the problem was. After those first two years, Terry wanted to run more of HIS offense. We stopped running as much of Tommy's and that is when things went down hill. And that is why Tommy ultimately left.
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Actually you are wrong.
I got it backwards. Who was the OC when Terry came to AU? Who was the OC after Terry got to AU? Therefore the new coaching staff ran the old coaching staff's plays.
Now that I have my timeline, I remember what I was told the problem was. After those first two years, Terry wanted to run more of HIS offense. We stopped running as much of Tommy's and that is when things went down hill. And that is why Tommy ultimately left.
Ok, I won't debate the details of it with you. It all fell apart when the HC put his foot down and wanted to run HIS offense. We'll go with that.
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Ok, I won't debate the details of it with you. It all fell apart when the HC put his foot down and wanted to run HIS offense. We'll go with that.
typical lawyer....always right , even when you are wrong... :poke:
BTW - Im kiddin JR. Happy Friday.
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typical lawyer....always right , even when you are wrong... :poke:
BTW - Im kiddin JR. Happy Friday.
Actually, he's right...in a way, but then my statement was correct too...just didn't take in to account the once in a lifetime situation (which had slipped my mind just like it had his) of a guy being hired as a HC, where his older brother was the OC on the previous staff, and their father is one of the top 5 college coaches of all time who made his living as an offensive guy. Although each of them has worked in different places, at that time especially, there would have been hardly any difference in Terry or Tommy's offenses. They probably spoke the same language offensively, which is a much bigger deal than the actual plays themselves. And each of them constantly conferred with one another throughout their careers about things. Under any other circumstances, Terry would have fired the old OC. In this case, the "Old OC" happened to run the same offense AND speak the same language. And probably even coached the details the same way.
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typical lawyer....always right , even when you are wrong... :poke:
BTW - Im kiddin JR. Happy Friday.
Damn lieyers. Now he is arguing that Terry = Tommy!
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Now he is arguing that Terry = Tommy!
Not even sure what that means.
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No love for Bobby Petrino?
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No love for Bobby Petrino?
Bobby is possibly as high as #3 on the list as far as catastrophic phuk-ups are concerned. I rate them by order of impact starting with the Barfield malaise followed by the Dye undoing.
The Petrino affair was like an old time drop the pregnant girl off with a suitcase by the roadside till we can repair the family name type of thing.
I think the small plane at a foggy airport was supposed to play out like an old espionage thriller starring Orson Wells and Peter Lorre but both had other obligations. Who knows, things might have been different with decent casting and cell phone technology. And the rest as they say...
But yeah I think Petrino is one of AU's best coordinators and probably would have been a good HC here too. We have a new casting agent and this time they think they have it right although everyone was pointing to next year where four starters from the OL will be absent, kicker...etc. Still, it will just be a dynamite movie trailer unless Roof can deliver.
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No love for Bobby Petrino?
Petrino can go get mounted by a mule for all I care.
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Petrino was a damn good offensive coordinator and he was #2 on my list...but I can't pass up the chance to have Malzahn.
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Petrino was good.....damn good.....but how long was he here? No much impact when you are here such a short time.