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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: The Prowler on August 06, 2010, 06:02:51 AM
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Ladarius Phillips is out running DBs in sprints and shows some really good hands and quickness. BTW, Phillips will be #37, the 6' 290lb FB and the Biggest FB in Auburn's History....it'll be hard to miss him. He'll be used similiar to Eric Smith and Phillip Lutzenkirchen. I can't fuckin' wait to see a little DB trying to stop LP when he has a full head of steam, it ain't gonna look too pretty for the DB.
(http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/83/832876.jpg)
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Ok, let me say this one time. If he is out running DBs then we are fucked and might as well not even play against anyone who has a decent passing game.
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If Im not mistaken, the last time I seen the stat, LP ran a 4.4/40. Thats a big azz dude running that fast fo so.
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Speaking of big....incoming freshman LB, Jawara White, is up 23 pounds to 243.
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Speaking of big....incoming freshman LB, Jawara White, is up 23 pounds to 243.
Damn! I'm expecting big things from this LB class. I think they should be some solid backups this season.
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Ladarius Phillips is out running DBs in sprints and shows some really good hands and quickness. BTW, Phillips will be #37, the 6' 290lb FB and the Biggest FB in Auburn's History....it'll be hard to miss him. He'll be used similiar to Eric Smith and Phillip Lutzenkirchen. I can't fuckin' wait to see a little DB trying to stop LP when he has a full head of steam, it ain't gonna look too pretty for the DB.
(http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/83/832876.jpg)
I could be wrong, but this dudes biggest, and probably only, real action this year will be on special teams as the wedge buster...
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I see a crackback from hell coming.
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I could be wrong, but this dudes biggest, and probably only, real action this year will be on special teams as the wedge buster...
I would say you are right but the NCAA banned wedges this year. But your original point is right on, I believe. He won't be seeing much action in the backfield.
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Ladarius Phillips is out running DBs in sprints and shows some really good hands and quickness. BTW, Phillips will be #37, the 6' 290lb FB and the Biggest FB in Auburn's History....it'll be hard to miss him. He'll be used similiar to Eric Smith and Phillip Lutzenkirchen. I can't fuckin' wait to see a little DB trying to stop LP when he has a full head of steam, it ain't gonna look too pretty for the DB.
(http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/83/832876.jpg)
We have one, too. Except Big Tex has an inch and 10 pounds on yall's guy. :thumsup:
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We have one, too. Except Big Tex has an inch and 10 pounds on yall's guy. :thumsup:
But does he run a 4.4?
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Sorry, 6'0" 290 dude don't run no 4.4 Fo-tee. He may be fast for a big dude though. At any rate, this guy is an H-back. Lead blocking, sealing the edge on the sweep, etc. I hope he can contribute, but we'll see.
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Sorry, 6'0" 290 dude don't run no 4.4 Fo-tee. He may be fast for a big dude though. At any rate, this guy is an H-back. Lead blocking, sealing the edge on the sweep, etc. I hope he can contribute, but we'll see.
Well, we all know some of these times get padded a little bit but I do believe this is what he was recorded as running coming outta HS. Regardless, a guy this big running even close to that fast is gonna knock the piss outta somebody.
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Well, we all know some of these times get padded a little bit but I do believe this is what he was recorded as running coming outta HS. Regardless, a guy this big running even close to that fast is gonna knock the piss outta somebody.
^This.
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Ok, my bad, he ran a 4.8 coming outta HS. I probably runs bout a 4.6 or 4.7 bout now.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/auburn/football/recruiting/player-Ladarious-Phillips-107290;_ylt=AnDu6ddsgEk.liaMzuqqtqw5rJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/auburn/football/recruiting/player-Ladarious-Phillips-107290;_ylt=AnDu6ddsgEk.liaMzuqqtqw5rJB4)
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Speaking of big....incoming freshman LB, Jawara White, is up 23 pounds to 243.
For some reason I think he will be the best LB of that class.
I don't buy the 4.4/40. IMO, it's a padded stat. 4.7/4.8 is probably more like it.
EDIT: I didn't see simps post above.
Ok, if he runs a 4.7 and is out running our DB's.........then I am not happy.
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The time was wind aided.
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Sorry, 6'0" 290 dude don't run no 4.4 Fo-tee. He may be fast for a big dude though. At any rate, this guy is an H-back. Lead blocking, sealing the edge on the sweep, etc. I hope he can contribute, but we'll see.
True. I don't think a lot of people really know how fast a 4.4 is. 4.4 gets thrown around a TON, but I doubt many people that claim that, can actually run it. The fastest I ever ran was a 4.6 and I wasn't the slowest dude in the world...
I ran against a couple of 4.4 dudes in college, and they beat me by about 4-6 yards in the 40. 4.4 is smoking...
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Ok, my bad, he ran a 4.8 coming outta HS. I probably runs bout a 4.6 or 4.7 bout now.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/auburn/football/recruiting/player-Ladarious-Phillips-107290;_ylt=AnDu6ddsgEk.liaMzuqqtqw5rJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/auburn/football/recruiting/player-Ladarious-Phillips-107290;_ylt=AnDu6ddsgEk.liaMzuqqtqw5rJB4)
Hand held times are ALWAYS suspect, and I'd be shocked if he broke 4.8 on an E-Timed run. Anyway, agree, the kid is fast for his size. Espeically when you figure your average bite sized HS WR probably runs 4.8 + anyway. I wouldn't be shocked if at some point they had the guy gain 15-20 lbs and moved him to DT.
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They had Big Tex timed at a 4.52 in high school. He was 275 lbs then, too.
If a fucker is 250 lbs+ and moving forward, he'll knock the hell out of you.
EDIT
After yesterdays first practice, Beachum was listed as 270.
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True. I don't think a lot of people really know how fast a 4.4 is. 4.4 gets thrown around a TON, but I doubt many people that claim that, can actually run it. The fastest I ever ran was a 4.6 and I wasn't the slowest dude in the world...
I ran against a couple of 4.4 dudes in college, and they beat me by about 4-6 yards in the 40. 4.4 is smoking...
All you have to do is go look at NFL 40 times and see just how fast 4.4 is. It's world class speed.
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Hand held times are ALWAYS suspect, and I'd be shocked if he broke 4.8 on an E-Timed run. Anyway, agree, the kid is fast for his size. Espeically when you figure your average bite sized HS WR probably runs 4.8 + anyway. I wouldn't be shocked if at some point they had the guy gain 15-20 lbs and moved him to DT.
As mentioned, if he is out running our DB's then WTF?! I can def see this guy being moved to DT. I could also see him being at FB for blocking purposes although I don't recall Malzahn running an offense that relies on a FB too much unless of course he has something up his sleeve.
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As mentioned, if he is out running our DB's then WTF?! I can def see this guy being moved to DT. I could also see him being at FB for blocking purposes although I don't recall Malzahn running an offense that relies on a FB too much unless of course he has something up his sleeve.
He doesn't use a FB like in the I, but he does use an HB, and E. Smith did a lot of blocking last year. One of his staple plays, Buck Sweep, uses an H Back to seal the edge blocking down on a DE.
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As mentioned, if he is out running our DB's then WTF?!
I would say that this is being exaggerated. He may have out run one dude that had a bad angle or something. I think there is no way he was out running our entire defensive back field...or even the large majority of it...
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I would say that this is being exaggerated. He may have out run one dude that had a bad angle or something. I think there is no way he was out running our entire defensive back field...or even the large majority of it...
In the 2010 NFL Combines, the top 10 fastest RB times were all posted by guys 230lbs or less, and ranged from 4.35-4.58, and only 6 broke the 4.5 mark.
Of the 6 fastest TE times, only one broke the 4.5 mark, a 6-4 225 TE (hardly a real NFL TE), and the rest were 4.56-4.69.
The fastest NFL DL was a 6-1 244 pounder at 4.64. Brandon Grahm ran a 4.72 at 6-1 268, Griffen Everson ran a 4.66 at 6-3 273.
The 10 fastest S/CBs in the NFL combines were all sub 4.5, but the fastest was only 4.43.
To put it in SEC perspective for those that tout SEC speed: UT Safety Eric Berry ran a 4.47, UF DL Carlos Dunlap 6-6 277 ran a 4.71, Bammer CB Kareem Jackson ran 4.48, and Auburn RB Ben Tate a 4.43.
Sorry, Auburn doesn't have a 6-0 290 fireplug running faster than DBs, or near the 4.4 mark. In fact, we probably don't have many DBs running 4.4.
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I would say that this is being exaggerated. He may have out run one dude that had a bad angle or something. I think there is no way he was out running our entire defensive back field...or even the large majority of it...
Well yeah, it has to be exaggerated because if our DB's are getting out ran by a guy this size then we're up shit creek. In my imagination though, a guy at 290 running a 4.5 would be a freak of nature. Not only that but could you imagine what kind of damage that would do to some defender?
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I coulda sworn I read 4.49 somewhere, and I want to say 4.45 somewhere else.
Couldn't find where I saw that at. Maybe I made it up.
But still, he's fast as shit for a boy that big.
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I coulda sworn I read 4.49 somewhere, and I want to say 4.45 somewhere else.
Couldn't find where I saw that at. Maybe I made it up.
But still, he's fast as shit for a boy that big.
A 6' 300 lb guy isn't going to run a sub-4.5 40. If you can find me one, I would love to see it. "He's a hell of an athlete" would have sufficed; no reason for people to embellish it.
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A 6' 300 lb guy isn't going to run a sub-4.5 40. If you can find me one, I would love to see it. "He's a hell of an athlete" would have sufficed; no reason for people to embellish it.
He might cover 40 yards in 4.4 seconds...if you dropped him off a 40 yard tall building. But you'd have some repair work to do on the street below.
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He might cover 40 yards in 4.4 seconds...if you dropped him off a 40 yard tall building. But you'd have some repair work to do on the street below.
Would he beat the DB down?
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Would he beat the DB down?
It depends are they both in a vacuum?
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It depends are they both in a vacuum?
We should really do something to get them out.
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It depends are they both in a vaccum?
I think they could use one of the walk ons.
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It depends are they both in a vacuum?
An African Swallow?
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An African Swallow?
If you pay, they're just like people on any other continent. They'll swallow.
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Also, LP can do a backflip, standing flat footed.....Put it on da board, Championship.
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Also, LP can do a backflip, standing flat footed.....as the ground shakes.
There you go buddy.
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Blackmon was a terror to QB's but that is where it ended. A potential All-SEC strong safety is moving to line backer in (undersized) Bates. If Phillips is that mobile how come he isn't making like Josh Thompson and blowing up offenses? Where is his future other than the next anomaly in the form of a feature news article? Barbee needs a big guard that can sit out on the perimeter and pop threes too.
Damn-it this team can go to Atlanta if it will stop that collossal leak up the middle.
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Blackmon was a terror to QB's but that is where it ended. A potential All-SEC strong safety is moving to line backer in (undersized) Bates. If Phillips is that mobile how come he isn't making like Josh Thompson and blowing up offenses? Where is his future other than the next anomaly in the form of a feature news article? Barbee needs a big guard that can sit out on the perimeter and pop threes too.
Damn-it this team can go to Atlanta if it will stop that collossal leak up the middle.
Moving Darren Bates to LBer is a GREAT move....I'm not sure if "Da-Da" can drain the threes, we aren't talking about basketball, we talking about football....Ladarious would be 4th String DT.
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Seriously, how fast is he? There are some 240 pounders that can do 4.4 -4.5 but we talking a load here.
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Seriously, how fast is he? There are some 240 pounders that can do 4.4 -4.5 but we talking a load here.
I guess THAT's possible. Bo was near 230 when he clocked the 4.12 in 1986 in Indy. But he was also a freak who's hip didn't hold up to that kind of abuse.
(http://www.derrich.com/img/bo-jackson-40-yd-dash.jpg)
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I guess THAT's possible. Bo was near 230 when he clocked the 4.12 in 1986 in Indy.
This cat aint Bo!
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This cat aint Bo!
Ummm....NO
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What I've seen more consistently, and more recently is 4.8. Still not too shabby for a boy that big.
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What I've seen more consistently, and more recently is 4.8. Still not too shabby for a boy that big.
Enuff times being run over at 4.8 speed can pay dividends...like missed tackles.
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What I've seen more consistently, and more recently is 4.8. Still not too shabby for a boy that big.
Didn't Aubie run a 4.8 in the suit?
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What I've seen more consistently, and more recently is 4.8. Still not too shabby for a boy that big.
No doubt....4.8 in general is a fast human being. Like JR and WE!!! stated, 4.4 gets tossed around WAY too much.
All I can say to anyone is go run a timed 40 to see exactly how fast a certain time is and then you get more of a appreciation for these guys and their times. I'm kinda in the same boat as WE!!, I was never able to clock a 4.4 (and I was only 200-205) and I was usually one of the faster guys on the field of play, whatever the sport was. I find that a lot of the recruiting site guys who toss the term around so loosely have probably never ran one, especially looking at their pictures.
A 4.4 is just THAT damn fast. Which is a testament to how fast Bo really was. LP is not running a 4.4 Forty.
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No doubt....4.8 in general is a fast human being. Like JR and WE!!! stated, 4.4 gets tossed around WAY too much.
All I can say to anyone is go run a timed 40 to see exactly how fast a certain time is and then you get more of a appreciation for these guys and their times. I'm kinda in the same boat as WE!!, I was never able to clock a 4.4 (and I was only 200-205) and I was usually one of the faster guys on the field of play, whatever the sport was. I find that a lot of the recruiting site guys who toss the term around so loosely have probably never ran one, especially looking at their pictures.
A 4.4 is just THAT damn fast. Which is a testament to how fast Bo really was. LP is not running a 4.4 Forty.
Most HS teams would only have a small handful of players that could run sub 4.8 or better, WRs and DBs included. Some may have no sub 5.0 players.
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Most HS teams would only have a small handful of players that could run sub 4.8 or better, WRs and DBs included. Some may have no sub 5.0 players.
Back in the day, at some of the summer camps and at some of the scrimmages between teams in the area where I played, I saw some of the most blatant 40 yd dash 'fixing'. One school in Columbus (GA) where a former AU great now coaches, was notorious for doing running starts, marking off 38 yards as 40 yards, and stopping the stopwatch before the player crossed the finish line. They would have a handful of players under 4.3 and half the team under 4.7. When the D1 prospects would camp with schools, those times were nowhere near what the real number ended up being. The whole team basically had artificially inflated times which only hurt those kids in the long term. This school still produces a ton of D1 talent, with one of them being Jarvis Jones who just went to UGA from USCw. I am certain they no longer partake in time fixing.
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http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/08/big_ladarious_phillips_looks_t.html
AUBURN - Mario Fannin knows a thing or two about being a running back, so it might be best to hear him out when discussing one of the most intriguing new players in Auburn's fall football camp.
Fannin says freshman Ladarious Phillips, who looks like a lineman at 290 pounds but played fullback the first week of fall drills, may indeed be his running mate on occasion this season.
Ladarious Phillips shows his moves at Auburn practice (Todd Van Emst photo)
Fannin, the starting tailback, smiles at the prospect.
"He's going to shock a lot of people because he's so big, but he's so athletic,'' Fannin said. "He's a guy who can get out of the backfield and catch it. He'll catch it one-handed. I've seen it.''
Running backs coach Curtis Luper says Phillips can stand flat-footed and do a back flip. He can also dunk.
Phillips rushed for 3,000 yards and 49 touchdowns and also played in the defensive line for three at Handley High School in Roanoke. He publicly showed up on the Auburn recruiting board on signing day.
"You just can't pass on a young man who's 45 minutes away...and he's that athletic,'' Luper said.
The question is what happens next. He could be a crowd-favorite fullback. Or a defensive lineman. Even offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn's rich playbook doesn't have a chapter for a 290-pound fullback. But Malzahn, like Fannin, is intrigued.
"We're still learning about him and his skills,'' Malzahn said. "He's a load and he's got running back feet. He probably needs to lose a little bit of weight, but still, he's very athletic.
"You can tell that he wants to be good. It's important to him. He's one of those guys who has a chance.
"We'll see about how he responds once scrimmages start.''
Phillips said he would like to lose some weight, maybe down to 275. He said he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.8 seconds, though that was 10 pounds ago.
He's already trying to tip the scales in his favor.
"I run after practice and everything,'' he said.
That disciplined approach may be beating the summer workouts.
"I worked out and tried to keep my weight down,'' he said. "During the summer, you're not out doing the physical running with the team, it was hard for me to keep it down.''
Phillips' immediate concerns are learning the plays.
"That's the big jump. I'm enjoying it, though,'' Phillips said.
Phillips was able to power his way through high school football last season as a tailback. Playing fullback may be the next best thing in college. Phillips said no one at Auburn has mentioned him playing in the defensive line.
He's just trying to follow the simple advice from Mike Battles, his high school coach.
"He told me to keep my head on straight and do what's right,'' Phillips said.
Coach Gene Chizik said Phillips is ahead of the game on that count.
"He's just a great kid. He works really, really hard,'' Chizik said. "He is an extremely gifted athlete. At 290-some-odd pounds, he can do a lot of different things. We knew that. He was one of those guys that kind of flew under the radar for a long time. We think he's going to be a very good football player here.''
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I like this kid the more I keep reading about him. I thought he was just an afterthought to fill out the class at the last second. Maybe he was, but occasionally, you stumble across something you didn't expect.
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Thats a pretty hefty cat to be dunking and doing back flips. All I can say is that when he hits you with that 4.8 speed, there will be some pads cracka-lack'n.
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Thats a pretty hefty cat to be dunking and doing back flips. All I can say is that when he hits you with that 4.8 speed, there will be some pads cracka-lack'n.
Zack Lee
4.8 is plenty fast when its 300 lbs and hits you at full speed.
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Zack Lee
4.8 is plenty fast when its 300 lbs and hits you at full speed.
For some reason the hit that Cadillac lays on the Syracuse DB at the endzone comes to mind...that was cracka-lack'n. I could only imagine what kind of dividends this guy will pay when the D is tired and not as enthusiastic about tackling somebody.