Slow Day: Sporting News Interviews Saban

[Birmingham]

Sounds like you've got yourself a double down, boartitz. I'm not too sure these clowns have anything that will match your BBQ sauce wager - unless you're into gubmint assistance vouchers or vials of crystal meth.

Maybe he should point out what he expects on my end because you're pretty much right.  If BBQ sauce is the bet than I'm assuming I can't really compete with what he has access to locally.  His choice, if nothing else I'll purchase it online as there's no other alternative locally that would be fair.

[No Huddle]

And it depends on what poll you look at on this one.

As my daughter likes to say, "yea you right!" But it was the closest thing they have to a NC.

[boartitz]

Maybe he should point out what he expects on my end because you're pretty much right.  If BBQ sauce is the bet than I'm assuming I can't really compete with what he has access to locally.  His choice, if nothing else I'll purchase it online as there's no other alternative locally that would be fair.

You don't have a local BBQ sauce in your part of Alabama? You shouldn't even think of yourself as a southerner.

[Birmingham]

You don't have a local BBQ sauce in your part of Alabama? You shouldn't even think of yourself as a southerner.

How has this not been covered before?  I don't live in Alabama, I live near Chattanooga, TN.  Do you want a model train set? 

[AUChizad]

Houndstooth has become a part of Alabama tradition.  Should Auburn stop rolling Toomer's Corner just because it was done in the 60's and 70's?

I'm sorry, I had to back up a bit and point out how insanely stupid this comment is.

So your fanbase relishing and making a point to wear the same fucking pattern of fabric as the hat your drunk coach who died 30 fucking years ago did, is the same as a school tradition that is not tied to one person, or any specific period in history. Only in bammer logic. The houndstooth should have died and rotted with Bahr, but you can't let it go, so you hold on to your false idol. The houndstooth pattern is to a bammer as the cross is to a Christian.

[Birmingham]

I'm sorry, I had to back up a bit and point out how insanely stupid this comment is.

So your fanbase relishing and making a point to wear the same fucking pattern of fabric as the hat your drunk coach who died 30 fucking years ago did, is the same as a school tradition that is not tied to one person, or any specific period in history. Only in bammer logic. The houndstooth should have died and rotted with Bahr, but you can't let it go, so you hold on to your false idol. The houndstooth pattern is to a bammer as the cross is to a Christian.

I associated them both as traditions, not the "same" tradition.  The fact of the matter is that Auburn doesn't have a tradition like the one Alabama has with wearing houndstooth.  This is because no coach ever won 6 National Championships at Auburn.  The reason you don't have any traditions "tied to one person" is because no one person has ever been iconic at Auburn.  If Harry Caray had coached at Auburn and made them National Champions 6 different times over the span of 20+ years, guess what some people would show up to Jordan Hare with?

Just because Auburn is vacant of an iconic figure doesn't mean other schools shouldn't remember theirs.  If remembering comes in the form of wearing houndstooth, I simply don't see what's so bad about that.  I certainly don't see it as such a blatant atrocity as it obviously is to you.

[boartitz]

How has this not been covered before?  I don't live in Alabama, I live near Chattanooga, TN.  Do you want a model train set? 

TN has BBQ. I may be going to Watts Bar.

[Birmingham]

TN has BBQ. I may be going to Watts Bar.

Alright, if Arkansas beats Alabama, I guarantee you I will find a gallon of local BBQ sauce that is worthy of being in this bet.  Can't be that hard, Memphis is only a few hours.

[AUChizad]

I associated them both as traditions, not the "same" tradition.  The fact of the matter is that Auburn doesn't have a tradition like the one Alabama has with wearing houndstooth.  This is because no coach ever won 6 National Championships at Auburn.  The reason you don't have any traditions "tied to one person" is because no one person has ever been iconic at Auburn.  If Harry Caray had coached at Auburn and made them National Champions 6 different times over the span of 20+ years, guess what some people would show up to Jordan Hare with?

Just because Auburn is vacant of an iconic figure doesn't mean other schools shouldn't remember theirs.  If remembering comes in the form of wearing houndstooth, I simply don't see what's so bad about that.  I certainly don't see it as such a blatant atrocity as it obviously is to you.

Ask 100 random people outside of the southeast if they know who Bear Bryant is. Then ask the same 100 people if they know who Bo Jackson is.

See who more people consider "iconic".

[Saniflush]

Ask 100 random people outside of the southeast if they know who Bear Bryant is. Then ask the same 100 people if they know who Bo Jackson is.

See who more people consider "iconic".

Now wait a minute.  That depends on whether or not they are Dickle drinkers.

[RWS]

Say what YOU want about Nutt. He's the sorry piece of shit that left us in the shape to get punked the last 2 years. He knew when to bail.

OR, maybe he was simply able to do better with what he had than Petrino is able to do. The best class Nutt pulled in was the McFadden/Jones class, there there were only two other 4* players in that class. The rest were 3* and 2*. He usually only pulled in 3-4 4* a class. He always made do with what he had, for the most part. If Petrino can't make do, then he needs to just recruit some really good players. Something he hasn't done a good job of at Arkansas.

[GH2001]

Ask 100 random people outside of the southeast if they know who Bear Bryant is. Then ask the same 100 people if they know who Bo Jackson is.

See who more people consider "iconic".

~crickets~

Also add to that a Heisman Trophy winner up until 7 months ago. And most consider him one of the weakest Heisman winners in history. Up there with Kijana Carter and Andre Ware.

[Buzz Killington]

If Harry Caray had coached at Auburn and made them National Champions 6 different times over the span of 20+ years, guess what some people would show up to Jordan Hare with?

The first one that came to Jordan-Hare looking like this guy would get nut punched.

[JR4AU]

And...???  What do you think the definition of "tradition" is?  If your traditions aren't based on the past what are they based on?

Traditions are things that happen on a regular basis.  The things you and your bammers call traditions, are things that happened in the past...ie. HISTORY.  

[AUChizad]

Did Bear Bryant have a Saturday Morning cartoon show featuring him and two other sports icons?

[wesfau2]

OR, maybe he was simply able to do better with what he had than Petrino is able to do. The best class Nutt pulled in was the McFadden/Jones class, there there were only two other 4* players in that class. The rest were 3* and 2*. He usually only pulled in 3-4 4* a class. He always made do with what he had, for the most part. If Petrino can't make do, then he needs to just recruit some really good players. Something he hasn't done a good job of at Arkansas.

Over a 10 year span at Ark, Nutt was hovering at .500 in conference games.  Subtract Vandy and the Miss schools and his winning percentage is in the .300s.

[AUTiger1]

Alright, if Arkansas beats Alabama, I guarantee you I will find a gallon of local BBQ sauce that is worthy of being in this bet.  Can't be that hard, Memphis is only a few hours.

Old Plantation or if you want mainstream, Sticky Fingers is not bad.  Both are in your town.  Choo Choo BBQ on Brainerd is also decent.

[JR4AU]

Over a 10 year span at Ark, Nutt was hovering at .500 in conference games.  Subtract Vandy and the Miss schools and his winning percentage is in the .300s.

Why do we, SEC fans, at once try to pass off the SEC as the strongest conference from top to bottom, then also discount wins against certain conference opponents? 

[wesfau2]

Why do we, SEC fans, at once try to pass off the SEC as the strongest conference from top to bottom, then also discount wins against certain conference opponents? 

Even our patsies are tough for non-SEC programs to handle.

In all groups there exists a hierarchy of sorts.  Vandy, MSU and OM are our weak sisters.

[AUChizad]

Even our patsies are tough for non-SEC programs to handle.

In all groups there exists a hierarchy of sorts.  Vandy, MSU and OM are our weak sisters.

Don't forget Kentucky. If we're counting the Mississippi Schools...