iPhone 4

AUJarhead · « **Reply #120 on:** July 14, 2010, 04:27:08 PM »

Now my goddamn cat is homeless.

Jumbo · « **Reply #121 on:** July 14, 2010, 04:37:21 PM »

Quote from: AUJarhead on July 14, 2010, 04:27:08 PM

Now my goddamn cat is homeless.

I'm dead now.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #122 on:** July 15, 2010, 08:14:01 PM »

Someone send Rush Limbaugh a link to this thread.

Driving home from Ft. Myers today I was scanning the radio dial and stopped on Rush. He has a misconception about the public's reaction to the Iphone 4.

See, Rush swears that there are NO customer complaints on the Iphone. He claims that Schumer is on a witch hunt because Apple is non-union and hasn't fallen in lock-step with this administration's socialist agenda. He cites Schumer's role in the Toyota (also non-union) recall mess as support. He ignores the Consumer Reports evaluation of the Iphone and assures us that if customers were unhappy with the product that we'd be hearing from them.

I found it to be hysterical, because every caller that the screener allowed through found this to be quite the revelation.

Aubie16 · « **Reply #123 on:** July 15, 2010, 08:32:49 PM »

I do think the issue has been blown out of proportion because of how popular Apple products have gotten. There have been tons of phones with more problems with the iPhone 4 that people aren't looking to tear down every step of the way. That being said, it does look like some iPhone 4's are having problems. I guess I've been lucky because I still haven't had a problem since launch day. No dropped calls, no grip of death, no proximity sensor failures, etc.

GH2001 · « **Reply #124 on:** July 16, 2010, 10:40:27 AM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on July 15, 2010, 08:14:01 PM

Someone send Rush Limbaugh a link to this thread.

Driving home from Ft. Myers today I was scanning the radio dial and stopped on Rush. He has a misconception about the public's reaction to the Iphone 4.

See, Rush swears that there are NO customer complaints on the Iphone. He claims that Schumer is on a witch hunt because Apple is non-union and hasn't fallen in lock-step with this administration's socialist agenda. He cites Schumer's role in the Toyota (also non-union) recall mess as support. He ignores the Consumer Reports evaluation of the Iphone and assures us that if customers were unhappy with the product that we'd be hearing from them.

I found it to be hysterical, because every caller that the screener allowed through found this to be quite the revelation.

Rush also says that exercise has no effect on health or weight loss. I dont agree with everything he thinks.

AUChizad · « **Reply #125 on:** July 16, 2010, 01:38:20 PM »

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/live-from-apples-iphone-4-press-conference/

Free bumpers for everyone!

And your proximity sensor issue will be fixed in the next software update.

Saniflush · « **Reply #126 on:** July 16, 2010, 02:20:04 PM »

Quote from: AUChizad on July 16, 2010, 01:38:20 PM

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/live-from-apples-iphone-4-press-conference/

Free bumpers for everyone!

And your proximity sensor issue will be fixed in the next software update.

So let me get this right.....

Apple has spent the last 20 years telling everyone that they are not like everyone else and in one press conference has now told everyone with their power point presentation that they are like everyone else.

This shit is just funny.

AUChizad · « **Reply #127 on:** July 16, 2010, 02:30:14 PM »

Quote from: Saniflush on July 16, 2010, 02:20:04 PM

So let me get this right.....

Apple has spent the last 20 years telling everyone that they are not like everyone else and in one press conference has now told everyone with their power point presentation that they are like everyone else.

This shit is just funny.

Why do you hate non-unionized corporations?

Saniflush · « **Reply #128 on:** July 16, 2010, 02:37:13 PM »

Quote from: AUChizad on July 16, 2010, 02:30:14 PM

Why do you hate non-unionized corporations?

Unions or the lack thereof are not even in the equation.

RWS · « **Reply #129 on:** July 16, 2010, 06:25:38 PM »

Quote from: Saniflush on July 16, 2010, 02:20:04 PM

So let me get this right.....

Apple has spent the last 20 years telling everyone that they are not like everyone else and in one press conference has now told everyone with their power point presentation that they are like everyone else.

This shit is just funny.

I don't understand why they built the internal antenna into the BOTTOM of the phone. You know, where everybody holds it to use it? Apple demonstrated with a few phones how bad reception can be, but I found it amusing that one of the phones they used as an example, the Droid Eris, has the external antenna built into the TOP of the phone.

I see that Apple is going to send all iPhone 4 users a case to help reception issues. Maybe I'm stupid, but how is adding another layer over the antenna going to help reception?

AUChizad · « **Reply #130 on:** July 16, 2010, 06:38:16 PM »

Quote from: RWS on July 16, 2010, 06:25:38 PM

I see that Apple is going to send all iPhone 4 users a case to help reception issues. Maybe I'm stupid, but how is adding another layer over the antenna going to help reception?

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"The technical explanation for the variation in signal strength found when closing the iPhone's case gaps with one's fingers is, that the antennas are being "loaded". The loading from fingers, a material with a high relative permittivity of ~50 at 2 GHz, changes the input impedance and resonant frequency of the antenna resulting in loss," Positronic_Matrix writes over on REDDIT's Apple forum.

"If I had to take an educated guess, I suspect pressing one's fingers across the gap increases the gap capacitance and changes the feed input impedance and electrical length of the antenna," Positronic_Matrix explains. "It is analogous to holding on to a piano wire with two fingers while it is being struck. Its resonant frequency will shift and its quality factor will drop, resulting in a sound that is off key and muffled."

"A solution often employed in the field is to preload an antenna. Preloading is including a large permittivity in the design, so when a human puts it close to their body, there isn't a significant change. The down side of this is that it often reduces bandwidth and efficiency," Positronic_Matrix explains. "So you can either have a great antenna that takes a hit when your fingers are near it or have one that is not quite as good but never changes. Isn't it like Apple to choose the former and like the masses to cry for the latter? (wink)"

Positronic_Matrix explains, "Note that if the antennas were designed to be inside the case as opposed to being part of it, they would likely have a loss somewhere between the best (unloaded) and worst (loaded) performance of the existing antenna. It's all an engineering tradeoff."

"The best solution is to not touch the antennas at the gap (Steve is right) or to buy a phone cover that keeps your high-permittivity sausages away from the RF sensitive areas," Positronic_Matrix writes. "Apple made the trade off for you and in my opinion it is a novel and good one, provided it can survive the bad PR generated by the griping gap grippers."

Stupid.

RWS · « **Reply #131 on:** July 17, 2010, 07:45:46 AM »

Quote from: AUChizad on July 16, 2010, 06:38:16 PM

Stupid.

Not as stupid as the person who decided putting the internal antenna in the bottom of the phone was a good idea, at least.

AuburnChopper 3.0 · « **Reply #132 on:** July 17, 2010, 08:06:33 AM »

Quote from: RWS on July 16, 2010, 06:25:38 PM

I don't understand why they built the internal antenna into the BOTTOM of the phone. You know, where everybody holds it to use it? Apple demonstrated with a few phones how bad reception can be, but I found it amusing that one of the phones they used as an example, the Droid Eris, has the external antenna built into the TOP of the phone.

I see that Apple is going to send all iPhone 4 users a case to help reception issues. Maybe I'm stupid, but how is adding another layer over the antenna going to help reception?

Jobs fucked up going after the Droid. It was an out right lie and just about everyone that doesn't have their lips around the Apple cock is beating him to death over it. I also love his choice of going after Droid's "lowest end" device to explain that his phone merely meets that sort of standard.

However, I do get it...

"I don't care" rings louder and louder in my head when I hear about all this goofy shit.

RWS · « **Reply #133 on:** July 17, 2010, 08:24:45 AM »

Quote from: AuburnChopper on July 17, 2010, 08:06:33 AM

Jobs fucked up going after the Droid. It was an out right lie and just about everyone that doesn't have their lips around the Apple cock is beating him to death over it. I also love his choice of going after Droid's "lowest end" device to explain that his phone merely meets that sort of standard.

However, I do get it...

"I don't care" rings louder and louder in my head when I hear about all this goofy shit.

Yeah, I found it interesting that they didn't use one of the big boys as an example. I like my Eris and all, but I know it's not a higher end phone like the Incredible. That's fine. It still does pretty much everything that the iPhone does. I think once people start realizing this, Apple will lose a little bit of their stranglehold.