The alpha-Male...

http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs7.htm

That's the reason most, if not all, major law enforcement agencies backed quickly away from the 9mm. Center mass is a helluva lot harder to hit during combat shooting. Anyone can make a nice pattern with no pressure.

I carry a Glock 22 and a Glock 27. Love them both.

GarMan · « **Reply #205 on:** May 22, 2010, 10:01:16 AM »

Quote from: Token on May 21, 2010, 10:39:09 PM

http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs7.htm

That's the reason most, if not all, major law enforcement agencies backed quickly away from the 9mm. Center mass is a helluva lot harder to hit during combat shooting. Anyone can make a nice pattern with no pressure.

I carry a Glock 22 and a Glock 27. Love them both.

Like I said, I've been through these discussions before. Here's a good comparison chart for "one shot stop %" that is a bit revealing. http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm

Have fun with it...

JR4AU · « **Reply #206 on:** May 24, 2010, 02:36:02 PM »

Quote from: Saniflush on May 21, 2010, 02:40:07 PM

Just sayin'.

Weapon vs gun is a military and law enforcement thing, and is a matter of acceptable nomenclature used in those profession. I have been in the military, and in law enforcement. It's not improper or wrong to refer to a gun as a gun. However, a clip isn't the same thing as a magazine. They're, as my pictures above show, not interchangable. Just sayin'.

JR4AU · « **Reply #207 on:** May 24, 2010, 02:44:34 PM »

Quote from: GarMan on May 22, 2010, 10:01:16 AM

Like I said, I've been through these discussions before. Here's a good comparison chart for "one shot stop %" that is a bit revealing. http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm

Have fun with it...

Lots of debate over those numbers. However, I'm a fan of them. I have long subscribed to Evan Marshall's research, from which those numbers are derived. IF you choose the right ammo, namely Cor Bon 115 +P+, then the 9mm is up there with the others. So many 9mm carriers, are fans of the 147gr pills. With those, the numbers of one shot stops drops down closer to 38 Special numbers. The top dog in that group is the .357 125 Remington offering. Followed closely by the .45ACP 230 HydraShok, then a the .40 cal pills. It is, of course, a matter of personal preference. My question to any 9mm carrier would be why, when there are .40 cal platforms that carry virtually the same number of shots in the same sized platform, would you carry a 9mm?

GH2001 · « **Reply #208 on:** May 24, 2010, 03:34:17 PM »

e-penises and teh googles abound.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #209 on:** May 24, 2010, 03:44:00 PM »

Quote from: GH2001 on May 24, 2010, 03:34:17 PM

e-penises and teh googles abound.

I walked in to a room full of massive e-penises. Just couldn't click out fast enough.

GarMan · « **Reply #210 on:** May 24, 2010, 04:18:40 PM »

Quote from: GH2001 on May 24, 2010, 03:34:17 PM

e-penises and teh googles abound.

I keep getting pulled back into this. At the time of my purchase, my reasons for a 9mm were primarily around cost along with the availability and pricing of ammo.

JR4AU · « **Reply #211 on:** May 24, 2010, 04:21:33 PM »

Quote from: GarMan on May 24, 2010, 04:18:40 PM

I keep getting pulled back into this. At the time of my purchase, my reasons for a 9mm were primarily around cost along with the availability and pricing of ammo.

Me thinks thou doeth protest the pussiness of your chosen shootin' iron too much.

GarMan · « **Reply #212 on:** May 24, 2010, 04:38:51 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on May 24, 2010, 04:21:33 PM

Me thinks thou doeth protest the pussiness of your chosen shootin' iron too much.

Protest? Nah... Sorry... I just don't judge my manhood by the caliber of my firearm. It doesn't bother me. I thought I'd try to reason wiff you, but you have other plans. Carry on...

GH2001 · « **Reply #213 on:** May 25, 2010, 09:27:13 AM »

Quote from: GarMan on May 24, 2010, 04:38:51 PM

Protest? Nah... Sorry... I just don't judge my manhood by the caliber of my firearm. It doesn't bother me. I thought I'd try to reason wiff you, but you have other plans. Carry on...

There's a chosen group of folks on this board that are right no matter what - even if they aren't. Get over it GarMan and quit being a pussy.

GarMan · « **Reply #214 on:** May 25, 2010, 11:10:23 AM »

Quote from: GH2001 on May 25, 2010, 09:27:13 AM

There's a chosen group of folks on this board that are right no matter what - even if they aren't.

I know... I should know better by now.

JR4AU · « **Reply #215 on:** May 25, 2010, 11:30:39 AM »

Quote from: GarMan on May 24, 2010, 04:38:51 PM

Protest? Nah... Sorry... I just don't judge my manhood by the caliber of my firearm. It doesn't bother me. I thought I'd try to reason wiff you, but you have other plans. Carry on...

Lighten up Francis!