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"America: The Story of Us" Rant

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Re: "America: The Story of Us" Rant
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2010, 12:49:19 PM »
I agree with this.

Some here will try to pretend that slavery was not a very "big reason". It was certainly over states rights, but the central states right in question was the right to own slaves.

Hell must have frozen over.

I really think that it does a disservice to the history of America to deny that slavery was not a very big reason for the war but it was not the only reason as I've heard argued time and again.  Conversely the cry of "state's rights", as I also hear frequently, is disingenuous as a counter-argument for the cause without adding the context.  State's rights...to do what exactly?

It was an economic reason for the south. It was an emotional reason for the north once support for the war started waning. Northerners really did not care. They would just as soon let the ignorant south go away. Lincoln really did not care about the slaves. his only concern was to keep the union together. Slavery for the south was just one reason. Slavery for the north was their justification for continuing a war they did not want. Freeing the darkies was their emotional inspiration.

Breathtaking brevity about the issue of slavery at the time, CCT; very well put!

I tried to watch it last night when I got in but it was late, I was tired, and I only made through the first 15 minutes or so.  Will attempt again this evening.

Me too.  I was too tired to watch it last night also.
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Re: "America: The Story of Us" Rant
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2010, 02:20:48 PM »
FTD
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Re: "America: The Story of Us" Rant
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2010, 03:40:34 PM »
FTD

I have not watched that episode yet, Birdman...at least sober.  In my defense I did try to watch it last Thursday night but after LTs damn Jaeger shots I might as well have been watching an old TV test signal.

Stay tuned.
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-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: "America: The Story of Us" Rant
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2010, 03:43:53 PM »
I watched the first few minutes of the one about westward expansion and managed to stomach through until they had Native American activist and multi-volume author on Native American History Sheryl Crow talking about how badly the white man fucked over the Indian. 

**CLICK**
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Re: "America: The Story of Us" Rant
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2010, 03:49:57 PM »
I watched the first few minutes of the one about westward expansion and managed to stomach through until they had Native American activist and multi-volume author on Native American History Sheryl Crow talking about how badly the white man phuked over the Indian. 

**CLICK**

Glad I'm not the only one who was irritated with her.
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-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: "America: The Story of Us" Rant
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2010, 03:51:28 PM »
Glad I'm not the only one who was irritated with her.

I like Melissa Etheridge's commentary on the industrial revolution better.   :rofl:  :rofl:
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Re: "America: The Story of Us" Rant
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2010, 04:10:09 PM »
I like Melissa Etheridge's commentary on the industrial revolution better.   :rofl:  :rofl:

Speaking of Etheridge one major irritation that I noticed in the Revolutionary War episode was the commentary on Baron Von Steuben's supposed sexual preference.  Besides from being complete conjecture it was unnecessary and simply added, in my opinion, to kow-tow to the gay mafia.  It doesn't matter whether he was gay or straight (and it's irrelevant besides); they should have simply focused on the fact that if it were not for his help and professionalism the Continental Army Regulars would have been an utter failure at fighting.  The manual of arms that he wrote was THE standard training manual for the army until well after the War of 1812.  I'm sure all of the German-Americans who celebrate Von Stueben Day along with members of the Von Steuben Society really appreciated that waste of air time on his sexuality.

(And, yes, I realize that this is coming close to reviving the DADT debate.)
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-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: "America: The Story of Us" Rant
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2010, 09:53:09 AM »
Speaking of Etheridge one major irritation that I noticed in the Revolutionary War episode was the commentary on Baron Von Steuben's supposed sexual preference.  Besides from being complete conjecture it was unnecessary and simply added, in my opinion, to kow-tow to the gay mafia.  It doesn't matter whether he was gay or straight (and it's irrelevant besides); they should have simply focused on the fact that if it were not for his help and professionalism the Continental Army Regulars would have been an utter failure at fighting.  The manual of arms that he wrote was THE standard training manual for the army until well after the War of 1812.  I'm sure all of the German-Americans who celebrate Von Stueben Day along with members of the Von Steuben Society really appreciated that waste of air time on his sexuality.

(And, yes, I realize that this is coming close to reviving the DADT debate.)

here here. 
Wonder why they didn't bring up that fucking war criminal Lincoln sleeping with his body guard?
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Re: "America: The Story of Us" Rant
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2010, 03:05:12 PM »
here here. 
Wonder why they didn't bring up that phuking war criminal Lincoln sleeping with his body guard?

Where can I send your bottle of Makers Mark to you?

Bravo sir!!!
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Re: "America: The Story of Us" Rant
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2010, 04:14:22 PM »
here here. 
Wonder why they didn't bring up that phuking war criminal Lincoln sleeping with his body guard?

That war criminal is beyond any reproach (even when it's the truth)...he shits marble.
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-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson