Reason why Colt McCoy got Fucked in the Draft

[BZ770]

Wonder if he had not of Pussed out in the biggest game of his life if he'd not been a 4th round pick.  And how bammer wouldn't have won the MNC, I can only speculate.

[Birmingham]

I'm just embarrassed that nobody told us we were supposed to be playing two-hand touch.  I feel awful about what happened.  It was really awful how he got tackled by a football player and all.

[The Prowler]

He led with his helmet, basically spearing him in the shoulder....I guess that's what they teach at the cesspool, spear the other team's best player to get the win.

[No Huddle]

He led with his helmet, basically spearing him in the shoulder....I guess that's what they teach at the cesspool, spear the other team's best player to get the win.

NM

[Token]

He led with his helmet, basically spearing him in the shoulder....I guess that's what they teach at the cesspool, spear the other team's best player to get the win.

The picture I've seen of you doesn't match someone who would honestly say something as pussy as "leading with the helmet". 

I realize you watched a lot of bullshit arm tackling last season on defense, but holy shit prow, that was a text book tackle.  Break down, helmet to the outside of the body, and wrap up. 

[Buzz Killington]

wrap up. 

I knew something was missing.


Signed,

Ted Roof

[RWS]

The picture I've seen of you doesn't match someone who would honestly say something as pussy as "leading with the helmet". 

I realize you watched a lot of bullshit arm tackling last season on defense, but holy shit prow, that was a text book tackle.  Break down, helmet to the outside of the body, and wrap up. 

No shit. If McCoy doesn't shift his body at the last second, his arm wouldn't have been hit either. And as for him pussing out, if the pinched nerve in his arm hurt half as bad as the pinched nerve in my back did, that's still a lot of fuckin pain. With it being in his arm, I doubt he had much arm strength left.

[GH2001]

I hate Bammer as much as anyone - but they were the apparent better team of the 2 with or without McCoy. When McCoy was in the game, was Texas really lighting Bama up? Bama spotted Texas TWICE in the first quarter and the best they could muster out of it was 2 FG's. They werent killing it with McCoy, they werent killing it without McCoy. And Yes - Bama did go into a Prevent in the 3rd and some of the 4th quarter which made the Texas O look a lot better than they really were ala the faux comeback. When Bama went back into an aggressive man D, Texas was shut down. Sorry - Bama looked much like the better team.

[AUChizad]

I hate Bammer as much as anyone - but they were the apparent better team of the 2 with or without McCoy. When McCoy was in the game, was Texas really lighting Bama up? Bama spotted Texas TWICE in the first quarter and the best they could muster out of it was 2 FG's. They werent killing it with McCoy, they werent killing it without McCoy. And Yes - Bama did go into a Prevent in the 3rd and some of the 4th quarter which made the Texas O look a lot better than they really were ala the faux comeback. When Bama went back into an aggressive man D, Texas was shut down. Sorry - Bama looked much like the better team.

I hate Bammer as much as anyone - and I disagree.

Up until the point that Colt went down, Texas was in complete control of the game. Yeah, the score was still 0-0, but that's because it was three measly minutes into the game, and they were likely going to be able to punch that drive in. Bammer botched a fake punt which led to a field goal, and then failed to recover a kickoff which led to another field goal shortly after McCoy was hurt. Not exactly lighting it up.

Colt was their team. They throw this eighteen year old Gilbert kid who the absolute last thought in his mind was that he would have to go out there and play in the championship game. Any comparison of the bammer rolled all over this kid has no bearing on what would have happened if their star quarterback had stayed in. It became obvious that the rest of the team had no confidence in this kid. Something like that, so early in the game, shoots your adrenaline down quick.

[JR4AU]

Hate it when Auburn folks force me to do this...there wasn't a damn thing dirty about the hit.  And calling McCoy a pussy is out of line too.  He didn't puss out...he was unable to play due to numbness in his arm.  What might have been if he had played?  It's a moot point really.  Sucks for him that he paid all his dues to get there, but that's the game of football.  1st round or 4th round, McCoy is a good kid from a good family, but he's not likely to pan out on Sundays.  

[Snaggletiger]

I didn't see anything wrong with the hit.  Just unfortunate that it wound up causing a freak type injury and changing the course of the game.  I'm not going to sit here and say Texas would have won if McCoy plays but ealry indications were that Texas could move the ball on them.  And the bottom line was that when Gilbert finally got his sea legs under him and got in sync...Shipley could not be covered, period.  Admittedly, Bama went ulta-conservative in the 2nd half with a big lead.  I just think it would have been a game for the ages if McCoy had played and hooked up with Shipley all night.

[jadennis]

The hit was clean.  

Colt didn't wuss out.  

As for Alabama being "clearly" the better team, I say no way on that.  Like others said, I hate Alabama too, but they were not easily the better team.  The way the game started, it appeared Texas had come to play, and just like they did against USC in 2005, they weren't going to be beat by the speed or the athleticism or the physical play of the other team.  They were equal in all those areas.

Games ebb and flow in all kinds of ways, so who know how things may have happened.  But it cannot be understated that Colt McCoy was that teams Lebron James or Kobe Bryant.  He was more to that team than Tebow was to Florida.  Who had the better team in 2009?  We'll never know.  All we know is that Alabama was better than Texas without their Lebron.  Fair and square for sure, but that is all we know.

[GH2001]

Bama came out a little rusty, spotted Texas twice in the redzone, 0-0. And Texas was in complete control?????  We're gonna disagree here JA. Ive seen the replay a dozen times. It was just a matter of time - with or without McCoy - that Bama got their footing in that game.  I thought the hit was clean - sorry, it was. This is football, not cheerleading. Texas did the same thing to Sam Bradford so Mack and the Steer Queer Nation should understand fully. I honestly think the better team won. I will call a spade a spade.

IMHO - Bama's D was better than OU's. And we know OU shut McCoy and UT down. They were lucky to win that game. They were also damn lucky to win the Big 12 title. Neb and OU both had stout D's and Texas had trouble with both. Good D > Good O. I think Bama could have made that game much worse in the 3rd quarter than they did.

[jadennis]

Bama came out a little rusty, spotted Texas twice in the redzone, 0-0. And Texas was in complete control?????  We're gonna disagree here JA. Ive seen the replay a dozen times. It was just a matter of time - with or without McCoy - that Bama got their footing in that game.  I thought the hit was clean - sorry, it was. This is football, not cheerleading. Texas did the same thing to Sam Bradford so Mack and the Steer Queer Nation should understand fully. I honestly think the better team won. I will call a spade a spade.

IMHO - Bama's D was better than OU's. And we know OU shut McCoy and UT down. They were lucky to win that game. They were also damn lucky to win the Big 12 title. Neb and OU both had stout D's and Texas had trouble with both. Good D > Good O. I think Bama could have made that game much worse in the 3rd quarter than they did.

Someone else may have said it, but I didn't say Texas was in complete control.  I said they came to play, nothing more.  My point was only that early on, there was no reason to think Texas was going to be out-manned.  I also noted that the hit was clean, obviously so, I think. (and for what it's worth, I haven't met a Texas fan out here that thinks the hit was anything but a clean tackle...I've only heard that from anti-Alabama fans). 

But I'm not sure you can really say anything about that game was inevitable.  Alabama got rolling a little more offensively, but was that partially due to the fact that the UT offense was three-and-out over and over?  Maybe, maybe not.  Maybe they would have gotten going anyway.  But maybe they got going because the UT defense was on the field a lot and Alabama got a whole lot of chances to get going.  Point is, we only know what did happen, we'll never know what would have happened.

As for looking back at "lucky to win" games, you could just as easily point to Alabama vs Auburn and Alabama vs Tennessee.  So that's a wash.  I'm not someone that's idiotic enough to say that had Colt played UT would have definitely won.  That's crazy.  But I think it's equally crazy to say Alabama definitely would have won even if McCoy played.  Like I said, he was their Lebron, and while Alabama may have beaten a Texas team WITH McCoy, all we know for sure is that they were better than a Texas team without McCoy.  So yeah, the better team won, no question.  It wasn't an upset.  But the losing team, without any question, didn't field their best player, which has to be considered.

[The Prowler]

Survey of NCAA Division 1 Officials on the Helmet-Contact Rules in Football
Jon Heck, MS, ATC

Helmet-contact penalties refer to the following three rules for this survey:
1. Spearing is the deliberate use of the helmet (including the face mask) in an attempt to punish an opponent.
2. No player intentionally shall strike a runner with the crown or top of the helmet.
3. No player intentionally shall use his helmet (including the face mask) to butt or ram an opponent.

1. CHECK
2. CHECK (Marcel moved his head downwards after initial contact, scrapping down McCoy's arm, causing more pain to occure)
3. CHECK

See, that's what the winder lickers teach over there in West Vance.

[Token]

1. CHECK
2. CHECK (Marcel moved his head downwards after initial contact, scrapping down McCoy's arm, causing more pain to occure)
3. CHECK

See, that's what the winder lickers teach over there in West Vance.

                                                                           

[The Prowler]

 

[Birmingham]

I talked to Dareus 3 weeks after the Championship game in Tuscaloosa.  He said he in no way attempted to spear Colt or to lead with his helmet or anything.  He said he was trying to do an illegal chop block that Ryan Pugh had taught him 2 games before.

[RWS]

1. CHECK
2. CHECK (Marcel moved his head downwards after initial contact, scrapping down McCoy's arm, causing more pain to occure)
3. CHECK

See, that's what the winder lickers teach over there in West Vance.

If you seriously think that was a dirty hit, you really are as stupid as some here think you are. I've been hard pressed to even find a Texas fan to say it was anything other than a clean hit. They really don't like to admit it, but at least they have enough sense to see the obvious. If anything, McCoy put himself in a worse position right before the hit by the way he turned.

[The Prowler]

I talked to Dareus 3 weeks after the Championship game in Tuscaloosa.  He said he in no way attempted to spear Colt or to lead with his helmet or anything.  He said he was trying to do an illegal chop block that Ryan Pugh had taught him 2 games before.

Yeah, I figured something like that, he was trying to make it his own...Illegal Chopping Spear (Dareus was going to call it "The Tomahawk").