I FUCKING HATE OVER TAXATION

[AUTailgatingRules]

That is all.  HAPPY TAX DAY

[Townhallsavoy]

Obama magically placed $10,318 in my bank account.  Roll Damn Democrats.

[Token]

Obama magically placed $10,318 in my bank account.  Roll Damn Democrats.

What did you do?  Buy a house?  Or adopt 10 children you can't take care of?

[AUTailgatingRules]

Obama magically placed $10,318 in my bank account.  Roll Damn Democrats.

Your Welcome.  Remember it did not come from Obama, It came from me.

[GH2001]

Obama magically placed $10,318 in my bank account.  Roll Damn Democrats.

Carrot on a string, meet rabbit.

[bottomfeeder]

Obama magically placed $10,318 in my bank account.  Roll Damn Democrats.

Got your home buyer tax credit huh?

[Saniflush]

Got your home buyer tax credit wealth redistribution huh?

there

[Townhallsavoy]

All your paychecks belong to me, my wife, and my dog.

Seriously - Turbo Tax felt like playing an arcade game.  The score just kept going up and up. 

[Kaos]

All your paychecks belong to me, my wife, and my dog.

Seriously - Turbo Tax felt like playing an arcade game.  The score just kept going up and up. 

Every dime of that was ripped from my pocket.   I'll be firing a couple of people in May because of it.

Thanks.

[bottomfeeder]

Believe me when I say I'm not happy at all with the tax system. The fact that some pay and some don't different years seems as if someone else is getting my money if I pay, but that's not how it works. I remember years paying hundreds of dollars and years of getting back hundreds, so it seem to be a game of chance more than anything.  The on tax I hate is the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT). I got hit with that one three years in a row. It felt like someone ripping off a three day old scab from my taint.  

[Townhallsavoy]

Every dime of that was ripped from my pocket.   I'll be firing a couple of people in May because of it.

Thanks.

Hey, white devil.  It's not my fault your greed controls your business decisions.  Those people you're firing (most likely black, hispanic, and culturally different) have been oppressed for years.  It's about time they get theirs, which the government will ensure.  Which is why your firing will have no effect.  What pain do you think you'll cause them, white devil?  Unable to pay the bills?  Unemployment check takes care of that.  No more doctor visits?  Healthcare bill takes care of that.  No opportunities for vacation?  Just wait until the new 5 Star Resorts for All bill is introduced. 

And if your cold, black heart has an ounce of generosity left in it, advise your ex-employees to buy a house.  King Obama LOVES that shit and is just giving money away as a reward.   

 

[Kaos]

I don't see why we can't simply go to a national sales tax.  Get completely rid of income tax and stick a 10% tag on all purchases other than food and medical.  Would bring in much more than the current system, eliminate the need for the costly and arbitrary IRS, create a situation where my accountant didn't think he was entitled to the month of May on vacation, render things like Cayman and Swiss bank accounts unnecessary and put the tax burden where it belongs.  You make more, you spend more, you pay more taxes. 

What happened to the concept of  fairness and equity?

[Townhallsavoy]

I don't see why we can't simply go to a national sales tax.  Get completely rid of income tax and stick a 10% tag on all purchases other than food and medical.  Would bring in much more than the current system, eliminate the need for the costly and arbitrary IRS, create a situation where my accountant didn't think he was entitled to the month of May on vacation, render things like Cayman and Swiss bank accounts unnecessary and put the tax burden where it belongs.  You make more, you spend more, you pay more taxes.  

What happened to the concept of  fairness and equity?

"Hi, I'd like to buy a $500,000 home."  
"That'll be 550,000 please.  Plus interest.  On the 550,000, not the 500,000."  

50 grand is a lot more dough.  

Also, if people learned to save money, the government wouldn't get shit and the government wouldn't like that, now would it?  

Also, I don't for one second believe the government would allow there to just be a national sales tax.  Maybe they'd pass it and let it go for five years, but suddenly, you have (hypothetical, ahem) a democratic congress and president that believes the lower class needs healthcare reform.  So they decide to enact a federal income tax.  A small one because the national sales tax is enough.  Just enough to pay for the healthcare reform.  Then, the housing market looks bad, so they decide to boost the federal income tax just a bit more so the working class can have an incentive to purchase homes.  Then something else, and then, you've got both national sales tax and income tax.  

I think the best remedy would be a flat tax as opposed to a fair tax.  EVERYONE pays 10%.  You earn more, you pay more.  You earn less, you pay less.  But it's all proportionate.  You want more money?  Buddy up with higher ups, work your ass off, get a quality education, and pursue your dreams.  Or give up your dreams because most of the time, more money equals a management-type job which is rarely anyone's childhood dream.  

[Ogre]

I don't see why we can't simply go to a national sales tax.  Get completely rid of income tax and stick a 10% tag on all purchases other than food and medical.  Would bring in much more than the current system, eliminate the need for the costly and arbitrary IRS, create a situation where my accountant didn't think he was entitled to the month of May on vacation, render things like Cayman and Swiss bank accounts unnecessary and put the tax burden where it belongs.  You make more, you spend more, you pay more taxes. 

What happened to the concept of  fairness and equity?

You mean the FairTax?

[Token]

"Hi, I'd like to buy a $500,000 home."  
"That'll be 550,000 please.  Plus interest.  On the 550,000, not the 500,000."  

50 grand is a lot more dough.  

Also, if people learned to save money, the government wouldn't get poop and the government wouldn't like that, now would it?  

Also, I don't for one second believe the government would allow there to just be a national sales tax.  Maybe they'd pass it and let it go for five years, but suddenly, you have (hypothetical, ahem) a democratic congress and president that believes the lower class needs healthcare reform.  So they decide to enact a federal income tax.  A small one because the national sales tax is enough.  Just enough to pay for the healthcare reform.  Then, the housing market looks bad, so they decide to boost the federal income tax just a bit more so the working class can have an incentive to purchase homes.  Then something else, and then, you've got both national sales tax and income tax.  

I think the best remedy would be a flat tax as opposed to a fair tax.  EVERYONE pays 10%.  You earn more, you pay more.  You earn less, you pay less.  But it's all proportionate.  You want more money?  Buddy up with higher ups, work your ass off, get a quality education, and pursue your dreams.  Or give up your dreams because most of the time, more money equals a management-type job which is rarely anyone's childhood dream.  

How would you divide the 10% between the feds, state and city?  Fair tax sounds much easier. 

And, once most people figured out they could save a shit ton of money by not overspending on fast food, parents would learn to value shop at grocery stores which would lead to families eating healthier. 

[GH2001]

"Hi, I'd like to buy a $500,000 home."  
"That'll be 550,000 please.  Plus interest.  On the 550,000, not the 500,000."  

50 grand is a lot more dough.  

Also, if people learned to save money, the government wouldn't get poop and the government wouldn't like that, now would it?  

Also, I don't for one second believe the government would allow there to just be a national sales tax.  Maybe they'd pass it and let it go for five years, but suddenly, you have (hypothetical, ahem) a democratic congress and president that believes the lower class needs healthcare reform.  So they decide to enact a federal income tax.  A small one because the national sales tax is enough.  Just enough to pay for the healthcare reform.  Then, the housing market looks bad, so they decide to boost the federal income tax just a bit more so the working class can have an incentive to purchase homes.  Then something else, and then, you've got both national sales tax and income tax.  

I think the best remedy would be a flat tax as opposed to a fair tax.  EVERYONE pays 10%.  You earn more, you pay more.  You earn less, you pay less.  But it's all proportionate.  You want more money?  Buddy up with higher ups, work your ass off, get a quality education, and pursue your dreams.  Or give up your dreams because most of the time, more money equals a management-type job which is rarely anyone's childhood dream.  

When the unconstitutional 16th amendment ( I know - its an oxymoron) was ratified (not every state did however), it was meant to be proportionate and on "wages". Its a whole other argument, but the definition of wages can be debated as well. Many think at the time wages was meant as any surplus you earned - ie - sold something for a profit, bought low and sold high, etc.  Technically using this logic, what we earn today (most of us) aren't "wages" in that sense but more less bartering services if you think about it.  You work for ABC Machining Company. You get paid 15 bucks an hour. You provided ABC Company 15/hr worth of service. Its an even trade. You made no profit on the deal thus there are no wages to tax. Now - wages has come to mean anything you bring in, pure profit or not. They even put it on every W2 now in some of those little boxes.  Sneaky? Probably. But unless you got a good lawyer and thousands of dollars to fight it for years, theres not much you do about it. It sucks what the tax system has become. Its funny how the implementation of an income tax in the 20th Century has went hand in hand with the national debt increasing. We got by for over 100 years with out an income tax via excise and tariffs.  I think the overcomplicated taxcode along with the Privately owned Fed inflating the money supply has taken our country into the toliet. Graph it out on a time line and it is a mighty convenient coincidence indeed.

[AWK]

Screw all of you, I just started a new business in September.  Instead of getting raped annually, I now get raped quarterly...by the IRS, the state, and fucking Jefferson County. 

Good thing I'm a tax attorney...

[GH2001]

Screw all of you, I just started a new business in September.  Instead of getting raped annually, I now get raped quarterly...by the IRS, the state, and phuking Jefferson County. 

Good thing I'm a tax attorney...

Since I have a regular job and own a business - I get BOTH. Beat that BITCH! HA

[GarMan]

Screw all of you, I just started a new business in September.  Instead of getting raped annually, I now get raped quarterly...by the IRS, the state, and phuking Jefferson County. 

Good thing I'm a tax attorney...

Sorry Sweetheart...  Most of us get raped with every fuggin' paycheck, and some of us have to make quarterly estimated payments on top of that.  Because I travel for work, I don't just get raped by the traditional thugs, I get molested by the state and sometimes the city where I'm working. 

On the other hand, you have the benefit of putting that money to work for you throughout your quarters...  interest, investment, capital, whatever...  as long as you're able to keep it liquid enough to make your quarterly payoffs. 

[AWK]

Sorry Sweetheart...  Most of us get raped with every fuggin' paycheck, and some of us have to make quarterly estimated payments on top of that.  Because I travel for work, I don't just get raped by the traditional thugs, I get molested by the state and sometimes the city where I'm working. 

On the other hand, you have the benefit of putting that money to work for you throughout your quarters...  interest, investment, capital, whatever...  as long as you're able to keep it liquid enough to make your quarterly payoffs. 

On average we get, um, about 0% of that money back.