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« on: February 15, 2010, 11:49:59 AM »
Here are the number of backs drafted from 1980 - 2009
  
#  Total - program - 2000s - 90s - 80s - winning %
1.  25 - Penn State - 4 - 11 - 10 - .723
2.  23 - Nebraska - 4 - 10 - 9 - .785
3.  21 - Auburn - 5 - 5 - 11 - .688
3.  21 - Florida State - 5 - 8 - 8 - .757
5.  20 - Oklahoma - 4 - 5 - 11 - .718
6.  19 - Alabama - 5 - 5 - 9 - .670
6.  19 - Miami - 5 - 6 - 8 - .779
6.  19- Tennessee - 5 - 9 - 5 - .711
6.  19- Texas A&M - 1 - 7 - 11 - .633
10. 17 - Georgia - 6 - 6 - 5 - .716
10. 17 - Michigan - 4 - 8 - 5 - .726
10. 17 - Ohio State - 6 - 7 - 4 - .752
13. 16 - Notre Dame - 1 - 9 - 6 - .644
14. 14 - USC - 6 - 5 - 3 - .689
15. 13 - Florida - 2 - 6 - 5 - .752
16. 12 - LSU - 5 - 3 - 4 - .629
17  10 - Arkansas - 4 - 3 - 3 - .591
17. 10 - Wisconsin - 4 - 3 - 3 - .566
19. 9 - Texas - 3 - 2 - 4 - .707

I added the 1970s too, but it became pretty ridiculous since there were as many as 17 rounds in the draft back then.  USC, Michigan, Oklahoma, Florida, Nebraska, and Ohio State all had over 10 backs drafted in that decade, with a total of 141 drafted (nearly double that of the 2000s drafts).

Also, there may have been some other programs like Clemson, Pitt, or Colorado that had 9 or 10, but I had to draw the line somewhere, and honestly, I expected all of these programs to have 10+, Texas was a surprise, especially with only 2 drafted in the entire decade of the 90s.

The list also reflects, in general, what you would expect to find in winning % over the same time period.  The higher winning % tend to have had more backs drafted.  The three high exceptions are Auburn, Alabama, and Texas A&M, being the only programs with a sub-.700 winning % but have had 19+ drafted.

On the other end the two exceptions are Florida and Texas.  They are the only ones with fewer than 15 drafted, but with a .700+ winning %.  Florida's makes sense, they won with quarterback play mostly.  Texas is the odd ball.  They managed over .700 winning % for the last 30 years, but didn't produce many running backs or quarterbacks to get too excited about.

Auburn also had 7 of those 21 running backs appear in the Pro-Bowl.  That's only one less than Nebraska, Penn State, and Florida State had combined.  If you add undrafted Tony Richardson, it's equal to that of those three schools.
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Re: Running Back U
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 12:44:28 PM »
I looked some up because I wondered why he hadn't included programs like Oklahoma and Penn State, or LSU and Tennessee.

Here is the total from 1990-2009:
Penn State: 14
Tennessee: 13
Georgia: 12
Michigan: 11
Nebraska: 11
Ohio St: 10
Auburn: 10
Florida St: 10
Notre Dame: 10
LSU: 9
Miami: 9
Alabama: 8
Florida: 8
Oklahoma: 7
Texas A&M: 7
Arkansas: 7
Cal: 7



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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 12:49:52 PM »
Why give stats if you don't include schools with better stats?  Lame.
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Re: Running Back U
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 12:59:06 PM »
Why give stats if you don't include schools with better stats?  Lame.

See "Bama's bogus national championships" and get back with us okay?
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 02:02:56 PM »
See "Bama's bogus national championships" and get back with us okay?
Who has more?
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Re: Running Back U
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 02:06:22 PM »
Who has more?

I don't know, how many does bama really have?
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 03:08:38 PM »
Why give stats if you don't include schools with better stats?  Lame.

I pasted his info, then thought I'd look up programs that he didn't include for some reason.  During that, I also noticed a difference between his Auburn numbers and what I found.  I'm not sure where he got his numbers either.  I'm gonna go through and count most of the programs he counted, just to see what I come up with....but I am working here at work.  True story.
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Re: Running Back U
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2010, 03:47:31 PM »
....but I am working here at work.  True story.
I don't believe you.
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Re: Running Back U
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2010, 05:51:14 PM »
I don't believe you.

Working on the actual running back draft numbers....duh.

Here are the number of backs drafted from 1980 - 2009
  
#  Total - program - 2000s - 90s - 80s - winning %
1.  25 - Penn State - 4 - 11 - 10 - .723
2.  23 - Nebraska - 4 - 10 - 9 - .785
3.  21 - Auburn - 5 - 5 - 11 - .688
3.  21 - Florida State - 5 - 8 - 8 - .757
5.  20 - Oklahoma - 4 - 5 - 11 - .718
6.  19 - Alabama - 5 - 5 - 9 - .670
6.  19 - Miami - 5 - 6 - 8 - .779
6.  19- Tennessee - 5 - 9 - 5 - .711
6.  19- Texas A&M - 1 - 7 - 11 - .633
10. 17 - Georgia - 6 - 6 - 5 - .716
10. 17 - Michigan - 4 - 8 - 5 - .726
10. 17 - Ohio State - 6 - 7 - 4 - .752
13. 16 - Notre Dame - 1 - 9 - 6 - .644
14. 14 - USC - 6 - 5 - 3 - .689
15. 13 - Florida - 2 - 6 - 5 - .752
16. 12 - LSU - 5 - 3 - 4 - .629
17  10 - Arkansas - 4 - 3 - 3 - .591
17. 10 - Wisconsin - 4 - 3 - 3 - .566
19. 9 - Texas - 3 - 2 - 4 - .707

I added the 1970s too, but it became pretty ridiculous since there were as many as 17 rounds in the draft back then.  USC, Michigan, Oklahoma, Florida, Nebraska, and Ohio State all had over 10 backs drafted in that decade, with a total of 141 drafted (nearly double that of the 2000s drafts).

Also, there may have been some other programs like Clemson, Pitt, or Colorado that had 9 or 10, but I had to draw the line somewhere, and honestly, I expected all of these programs to have 10+, Texas was a surprise, especially with only 2 drafted in the entire decade of the 90s.

The list also reflects, in general, what you would expect to find in winning % over the same time period.  The higher winning % tend to have had more backs drafted.  The three high exceptions are Auburn, Alabama, and Texas A&M, being the only programs with a sub-.700 winning % but have had 19+ drafted.

On the other end the two exceptions are Florida and Texas.  They are the only ones with fewer than 15 drafted, but with a .700+ winning %.  Florida's makes sense, they won with quarterback play mostly.  Texas is the odd ball.  They managed over .700 winning % for the last 30 years, but didn't produce many running backs or quarterbacks to get too excited about.
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Re: Running Back U
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2010, 07:22:06 PM »
Who has more?

Not the point.  You claim them when other schools have greater claims in that season.  So you claim championships by not including schools that have more (and more legitimate) in that season. 

You really only have about four or five, if that many.
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2010, 07:27:35 PM »
Not the point.  You claim them when other schools have greater claims in that season.  So you claim championships by not including schools that have more (and more legitimate) in that season.  

You really only have about four or five, if that many.

How does that make this thread any less lame?
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Re: Running Back U
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2010, 11:30:11 PM »
How does that make this thread any less lame?

If it glorified your team you wouldnt think so.
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Re: Running Back U
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2010, 12:42:07 AM »
If it glorified your team you wouldnt think so.

How has this thread glorified Auburn?  It appears to have glorified Penn State, Tennessee, Georgia, Michigan, Nebraska and Ohio.
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Re: Running Back U
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2010, 09:09:05 AM »
How has this thread glorified Auburn?  It appears to have glorified Penn State, Tennessee, Georgia, Michigan, Nebraska and Ohio.


Your resistance is futile.
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Re: Running Back U
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2010, 09:36:25 AM »
How has this thread glorified Auburn?  It appears to have glorified Penn State, Tennessee, Georgia, Michigan, Nebraska and Ohio.


It has glorified them all, but not your team. You failed.
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Re: Running Back U
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Re: Running Back U
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2010, 11:32:48 AM »
How has this thread glorified Auburn?  It appears to have glorified Penn State, Tennessee, Georgia, Michigan, Nebraska and Ohio.


FTFY, only Penn State and Nebraska have had more running backs drafted in the last 30 years.  

Ohio has had 3 players drafted since 1980, none were running backs.

Out of the 79 backs drafted out of Nebraska, PSU, and FSU, 8 of them went on to have Pro-Bowl seasons.

Of Auburn's 21, 7 had Pro-Bowl seasons.  

And of the additional 6 undrafted Auburn running backs that played in the NFL during that time, Tony Richardson has also been a Pro-Bowler.  

That's a pretty damn glorifying number....1 out of 3 Auburn running backs drafted since 1980 have had at least one Pro-Bowl season.
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2010, 11:42:23 AM »
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