Birmingham officially sucks more...

[GH2001]

I would think that the opposite is true.  If you're under 35 you're less likely to be married.  You're less likely to have things like a mortgage, braces, mini vans, dance lessons for the kids and college savings funds to pay for. 

If you're under 35 you should be out chasing the dream (and tail) instead of sitting around in your mom's basement or your darkened dorm room looking at porn and contributing to a message board. 

If you're over 35 your life is already pretty much laid out.  You don't have the time or inclination to chase tail -- too expensive -- and you've risen to a point in your job where you can sit around the office and essentially do nothing all day. 

So shut the phuk up and get out of my office. 

You beat me to it....

If this is a sampling of the generation currently in their late teens/20's, then I can see how our country is going down the crapper. Makes perfect sense. Its all about Dave Matthews, John Mayer, the newest Berry Wheat Beer, questioning fucking everything just for the sake of doing it, bitching and moaning about the stupidest shit and wanting NO adversity. Like Kaos said - everyone doesnt make the team, everyone doesnt get a trophy. Sad. Fucking Sad. For those of you who are so glued into indie music, maybe you would like it up in Athens. Just a thought.

[AUChizad]

You beat me to it....

If this is a sampling of the generation currently in their late teens/20's, then I can see how our country is going down the crapper. Makes perfect sense. Its all about Dave Matthews, John Mayer, the newest Berry Wheat Beer, questioning fucking everything just for the sake of doing it, bitching and moaning about the stupidest shit and wanting NO adversity. Like Kaos said - everyone doesnt make the team, everyone doesnt get a trophy. Sad. Fucking Sad. For those of you who are so glued into indie music, maybe you would like it up in Athens. Just a thought.

Dave Matthews & John Mayer have got shit to do with 100.5.

You're confusing indie/progressive music with hippie bullshit. There's another active thread about that kind of  garbage (read: String Cheese Incident) being fueled by posters in their 30's.

Everything else you said, well no, even that, I can't read without picturing in this voice.

[AWK]

You beat me to it....

If this is a sampling of the generation currently in their late teens/20's, then I can see how our country is going down the crapper. Makes perfect sense. Its all about Dave Matthews, John Mayer, the newest Berry Wheat Beer, questioning fucking everything just for the sake of doing it, bitching and moaning about the stupidest shit and wanting NO adversity. Like Kaos said - everyone doesnt make the team, everyone doesnt get a trophy. Sad. Fucking Sad. For those of you who are so glued into indie music, maybe you would like it up in Athens. Just a thought.

Irony.

[Vandy Vol]

You beat me to it....

If this is a sampling of the generation currently in their late teens/20's, then I can see how our country is going down the crapper. Makes perfect sense. Its all about Dave Matthews, John Mayer, the newest Berry Wheat Beer, questioning fucking everything just for the sake of doing it, bitching and moaning about the stupidest shit and wanting NO adversity. Like Kaos said - everyone doesnt make the team, everyone doesnt get a trophy. Sad. Fucking Sad. For those of you who are so glued into indie music, maybe you would like it up in Athens. Just a thought.

Very interesting theory that the country is going down the crapper because of teens and people in their twenties.  In 2000, the largest 5-year age group was 35-to-39 year olds with 22.7 million people, representing
8.1 percent of the total population. The second largest 5-year age group was 40-to-44 year olds with 22.4 million people, representing 8.0 percent of the population.  Of the 5-year age groups, 50-to-54 year olds experienced the largest percentage growth in population over the past decade, 55 percent. The second
fastest-growing group was the age group 45 to 49, which experienced a 45-percent increase.  The median age in 2000 was 35.3.  In 2007, it was 36.7.

My point of this long string of information is that the majority of people in the United States are not in their twenties.  The teens have no ability to vote (aside from eighteen and nineteen year olds) and are not old enough to hold any office.  People in their twenties are not old enough to hold most major offices, and our numbers are such that we could be (and often are) outvoted.  If the country is going down the crapper, and if we are going to point out one age group to blame, then I highly doubt it's the twenties and teens; "bitching," "moaning," "questioning fucking everything," and listening to shitty music doesn't take a country down the crapper, and especially not when those you blame aren't even in positions of power to have any influence on the country's actual workings.

[AWK]

Rah, Rah, Rah!  Let's just look at some of the people you guys think are screwing up our Country, and see if they are in their 20's.

Barrack O'Bama - Nope

Nancy Pelosia - Nope

Bob Riley - Nope

Pat Robertson - Nope

Dick Cheney - Nope

Joe Lieberman - Nope

George W. Bush - Nope

Hillary Clinton - Nope

Bill Clinton - Nope

Lady Gaga - Yes...well fuck, you got me on that one.

[Vandy Vol]

Oh, and John Mayer is 32.  He's one of "you guys."  I guess you can claim Dave Matthews is just an old fogey, though, since he is 43.

[Kaos]

Very interesting theory that the country is going down the crapper because of teens and people in their twenties.  In 2000, the largest 5-year age group was 35-to-39 year olds with 22.7 million people, representing
8.1 percent of the total population. The second largest 5-year age group was 40-to-44 year olds with 22.4 million people, representing 8.0 percent of the population.  Of the 5-year age groups, 50-to-54 year olds experienced the largest percentage growth in population over the past decade, 55 percent. The second
fastest-growing group was the age group 45 to 49, which experienced a 45-percent increase.  The median age in 2000 was 35.3.  In 2007, it was 36.7.

My point of this long string of information is that the majority of people in the United States are not in their twenties.  The teens have no ability to vote (aside from eighteen and nineteen year olds) and are not old enough to hold any office.  People in their twenties are not old enough to hold most major offices, and our numbers are such that we could be (and often are) outvoted.  If the country is going down the crapper, and if we are going to point out one age group to blame, then I highly doubt it's the twenties and teens; "bitching," "moaning," "questioning fucking everything," and listening to shitty music doesn't take a country down the crapper, and especially not when those you blame aren't even in positions of power to have any influence on the country's actual workings.

The current failings can be placed at the feet of those who grew up during the free love, bead wearing, flower power hippie era.  

Most of the people serving in the administration today are of that era.   They dug the Woodstock and fought the power.  They watched Laugh-In for political education and worshiped at the altar of Timothy Leary, Janis Joplin, Hendrix and the rest of the stoners.  They rejected the sacrifice and honor their parents displayed during WWII and embraced John Lennon's (failed) give peace a chance mantra.  Because their parents had sacrificed so much, this era came to believe it was owed something -- and owed by everyone. Maybe the parents fostered that because they didn't want their kids to suffer the way they had, who knows?  

Obama is at the tail end of that generation.  He's 48 or 49 and was among the last to skip stupidly along in those footsteps.  

The next generation, the next group to take control -- people who are between 30 and 44 now -- are much more conservative (as a whole) than the people now in power.  In the next ten to twenty years you'll hopefully see a gradual shift back toward fiscal and societal conservatism (via government) before their spoiled brat children come along and shit the bed again.  

Just hope the flower power fucks who traded their tie dyed shirts and birkenstocks for suits won't have fucked things up beyond repair when the pendulum swings back.  

[Tarheel]

Very interesting theory that the country is going down the crapper because of teens and people in their twenties.  In 2000, the largest 5-year age group was 35-to-39 year olds with 22.7 million people, representing
8.1 percent of the total population. The second largest 5-year age group was 40-to-44 year olds with 22.4 million people, representing 8.0 percent of the population.  Of the 5-year age groups, 50-to-54 year olds experienced the largest percentage growth in population over the past decade, 55 percent. The second
fastest-growing group was the age group 45 to 49, which experienced a 45-percent increase.  The median age in 2000 was 35.3.  In 2007, it was 36.7.

My point of this long string of information is that the majority of people in the United States are not in their twenties.  The teens have no ability to vote (aside from eighteen and nineteen year olds) and are not old enough to hold any office.  People in their twenties are not old enough to hold most major offices, and our numbers are such that we could be (and often are) outvoted.  If the country is going down the crapper, and if we are going to point out one age group to blame, then I highly doubt it's the twenties and teens; "bitching," "moaning," "questioning phuking everything," and listening to poopty music doesn't take a country down the crapper, and especially not when those you blame aren't even in positions of power to have any influence on the country's actual workings.

They certainly weren't outvoted in the last presidential election.  Thanks for playing a large part in giving us B. Hussein Obama, The ONE.

...
Under- 30's

66% of under-30's showed their support for Obama - far higher than in any previous election - compared to 31% for McCain.

A staggering 54% of young white voters also went for Obama.

Overall, this also helped Obama secure a high number of first time voters; 71% of whom voted Democrat.

McCain only managed to secure 29% of first-time voters, compared to 53% for John Kerry in 2004.

Obama's youth - at 47 he is one of the youngest ever presidents - appealed to and energised many of those who were voting for the first time.
...

Full article with more interesting demographics: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1083335/Breakdown-demographics-reveals-black-voters-swept-Obama-White-House.html#ixzz0foAXDGMm

[Kaos]

They certainly weren't outvoted in the last presidential election.  Thanks for playing a large part in giving us B. Hussein Obama, The ONE.

Full article with more interesting demographics: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1083335/Breakdown-demographics-reveals-black-voters-swept-Obama-White-House.html#ixzz0foAXDGMm

This actually validates my point.  The under 30 generation is stupid just like the ones in their 50s today.  Ideologically similar and shallow because they know nothing about sacrifice. 

For the record, neither does our generation really, but we at least understand the concept. 

[AWK]

This actually validates my point.  The under 30 generation is stupid just like the ones in their 50s today.  Ideologically similar and shallow because they know nothing about sacrifice. 

For the record, neither does our generation really, but we at least understand the concept. 

Oddly enough, you are in the only generation that "gets it", your generation.  Funny how that works. 

[Kaos]

Oddly enough, you are in the only generation that "gets it", your generation.  Funny how that works. 

So you disagree that the people who fought WWII and built this country into a world power had the right ideas? 

Because the fucks in power now would never have pulled that off.  You'd be speaking German or Japanese. 

Do you think the current administration, both Republican and Democrat (since they sprung from the same shallow well) "get it"?  Is reckless spending and a push for equality of outcome as opposed to equality of opportunity "getting it"?  How has having a coke and a smile worked out in the Middle East? 

No generation has an exclusive on "getting it"   but it's about to be our turn as soon as some of these ex hippies die out -- and we'll see whether our more conservative ways of thinking are better or worse. 

Like with almost everything else, I already know that answer to that one.  And as with most everything else I choose to analyze -- I'll be right. 

[Tarheel]

So you disagree that the people who fought WWII and built this country into a world power had the right ideas?  

Because the phuks in power now would never have pulled that off.  You'd be speaking German or Japanese.  

Do you think the current administration, both Republican and Democrat (since they sprung from the same shallow well) "get it"?  Is reckless spending and a push for equality of outcome as opposed to equality of opportunity "getting it"?  How has having a coke and a smile worked out in the Middle East?  

No generation has an exclusive on "getting it"   but it's about to be our turn as soon as some of these ex hippies die out -- and we'll see whether our more conservative ways of thinking are better or worse.  

Like with almost everything else, I already know that answer to that one.  And as with most everything else I choose to analyze -- I'll be right.  

Maybe what we need are some hard times to teach all of us to "man-up" (to borrow a recent phrase from Tiger Wench) instead of becoming cowering, 'indie music' listening, gay friendly, socially conscience, enviro-babblist, 'feeling' instead of 'thinking', submissive beta males.  The ONE and his Progressive market and social engineering could be a blessing in disguise.

[AUChizad]

Maybe what we need are some hard times to teach all of us to "man-up" (to borrow a recent phrase from Tiger Wench) instead of becoming cowering, 'indie music' listening, gay friendly, socially conscience, enviro-babblist, 'feeling' instead of 'thinking', submissive beta males.  The ONE and his social engineering could be a blessing in disguise.

Eureka! We've discovered the heart of our economic troubles!

Fags, Indie Music, and human kindness!

How could I have been so blind, when it was right there in front of me all this time!

[AWK]

So you disagree that the people who fought WWII and built this country into a world power had the right ideas? 

Because the fucks in power now would never have pulled that off.  You'd be speaking German or Japanese. 

Do you think the current administration, both Republican and Democrat (since they sprung from the same shallow well) "get it"?  Is reckless spending and a push for equality of outcome as opposed to equality of opportunity "getting it"?  How has having a coke and a smile worked out in the Middle East? 

No generation has an exclusive on "getting it"   but it's about to be our turn as soon as some of these ex hippies die out -- and we'll see whether our more conservative ways of thinking are better or worse. 

Like with almost everything else, I already know that answer to that one.  And as with most everything else I choose to analyze -- I'll be right. 

You are judging people that have not been presented the same situation as the WWII generation.  In the same circumstances I do not think that my generation would fail.  

[jadennis]

Eureka! We've discovered the heart of our economic troubles!

Fags, Indie Music, and human kindness!

How could I have been so blind, when it was right there in front of me all this time!

You missed his point....and I'm pretty sure you did it on purpose.  You may not like his tone or his specific examples, but you get the point....I'm pretty sure anyway.

[AUChizad]

Like with almost everything else, I already know that answer to that one.  And as with most everything else I choose to analyze -- I'll be right. 

You are all hat, no cattle.

[Vandy Vol]

They certainly weren't outvoted in the last presidential election.  Thanks for playing a large part in giving us B. Hussein Obama, The ONE.

Full article with more interesting demographics: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1083335/Breakdown-demographics-reveals-black-voters-swept-Obama-White-House.html#ixzz0foAXDGMm

So...we should listen to older generations.  We should follow older generations.  We should support older generations.

Isn't Obama part of an older generation?

You act as if we elected a bunch of 20 year olds into office and we now run the country.  Last time I checked, everyone that was elected was not of our generation.  It is their leadership, not ours, that has changed the country's course.  We put our voting power in support of older generations, and then you complain when we do so even though that's what you want us to do.

And let's get some numbers straight while we're at it.  Between 22 and 24 million young Americans ages 18–29 voted, resulting in an estimated youth voter turnout (the percentage of eligible voters who actually cast a vote) of between 49.3% and 54.5%.  66% of those, according to your article's numbers, voted for Obama.  66% of 24 million is 15.84 million.  122,394,724 is the total number of voters in 2008.  15.84 million is approximately 13% of the total 122,294,724 voters.  13% doesn't win an election by itself; older generations played a major part as well.

Oh, and while we're blaming generations of voters, 67% of voters 65 and older voted for Bush in 2004.  Not the hippie generation, but the generation that you probably view as pioneers who stuck through the hard times and made it through, giving birth to those ungrateful, stupid brat hippies who assisted in moronic things such as the Civil Rights movement.  Bush only had a 38% approval rating shortly before the 2004 election (in October) from 18-29 year olds.  Overall? 51%. 53% of voters in 2004 who were 30-44 voted for Bush.  51% of voters who were 45-59 also voted for Bush.  Great job there.

[Tarheel]

You are judging people that have not been presented the same situation as the WWII generation.  In the same circumstances I do not think that my generation would fail.  

I like to think that none of us would.  I used to be more optimistic about us as Americans but with The ONE and his orcs in charge I think he's more interested in apologizing for America than anything else.

[Lurking Tiger]

Maybe what we need are some hard times to teach all of us to "man-up" (to borrow a recent phrase from Tiger Wench) instead of becoming cowering, 'indie music' listening, gay friendly, socially conscience, enviro-babblist, 'feeling' instead of 'thinking', submissive beta males.  The ONE and his Progressive market and social engineering could be a blessing in disguise.

I think you are going to get your wish.

As for the rest of this nonsense, DC has become too power hungry. Doesn't matter which generation is in there. They are all scumbags to a certain extent. They will only change when outside forces make them change, for their own good. They don't care about the average American. If you believe they do, you are naive. It's all about remaining in power. It was the same for the WWII folks.

Sometimes they make the right choices, sometimes they make the wrong changes. Nothing to do with political viewpoint. Just varying degrees of smarts and luck.

[Kaos]

You are all hat, no cattle.

I've got a really large herd.  Massive.