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Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?

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Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« on: February 09, 2010, 05:36:12 PM »
even with a player, or 85, that don't even know what they're Majoring in.

(Flea'd off another board)

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I was looking over APR scores for Alabama since Saban has been there, and came across some staggering numbers...

APR scores of University of Alabama football team:
2006 - APR 916 - before Saban
2007 - APR 942
2008 - APR 944
2009 - APR 955

Such a dramatic difference in that number would indicate that either Saban takes academics EXTREMELY seriously (which there is direct evidence against, like Mount Cody not knowing his own major), OR he's cheating academically, and apparently dramatically.

I'd state that such a massive improvement that quickly is ONLY attainable through a systemic program designed to improve grades, and thus implemented by Saban. If it were a legal system then he should be commended, however, there is direct evidence of systemic academic fraud during his time at LSU. LSU had similar dramatic improvement such as this on Saban's first trip through the SEC... This dramatic improvement at LSU was obtained by ACADEMIC FRAUD and by APPLYING PRESSURE TO TEACHERS FOR GRADES. Athletes were getting their papers written for them and notes were being taken for athletes by people within the athletic department...

LSU officials meet with NCAA over academic fraud allegations

LSU's investigation has focused on the Academic Center for Athletes and the kinesiology department. Kinesiology is a popular major among football players.

The investigation began in January shortly after Roger Grooters, who was named executive director of the academic center last summer, noticed irregularities at the center and alerted LSU officials.

The investigation did not go public until March when word leaked to the media that an unidentified kinesiology instructor had complained to LSU's human resources department that she was pressured to give football players favorable treatment.

That kinesiology instructor, Tiffany Mayne, went public Friday when she filed a lawsuit against LSU, alleging she was pressured by kinesiology department superiors to ``get on the team'' and allow activities by football players that Mayne thought were improper.

Mayne said in the lawsuit that athletes in one of her classes in the spring 2001 semester were accompanied by students not in the class who told her they were note takers for the athletes. Mayne reported this to kinesiology department head Amelia Lee, who said the note takers were arranged through the academic center.

Kinesiology graduate student Caroline Owen filed a lawsuit on March 21 in which she said papers she graded appeared to be copied. She brought this to Lee's attention but said Lee told her to keep it quiet because it involved football players.

Other allegations of possible NCAA violations LSU's investigation has examined include tutors and academic center employees providing too much help to athletes, athletes taking unsupervised tests at the academic center and athletes asking academic center employees to type papers for free.

LSU meets with the NCAA over Academic Fraud Allegations
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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 06:13:30 PM »
even with a player, or 85, that don't even know what they're Majoring in.

(Flead off another board)



It appears to me that you may have also been a recipient of grade fudging while in school. 

I'm guessing English.
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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 06:22:06 PM »
Nice counterpunch.... :rofl:
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"Patriotism and popularity are the beaten paths for power and tyranny." Good, no worries about tyranny w/ Trump

"Alabama's Special Teams unit is made up of Special Ed students." - Daniel Tosh

"The HUNH does cause significant Health and Safety issues, Health issues for the opposing fans and Safety issues for the opposing coaches." - AU AD Jay Jacobs

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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2010, 08:14:31 PM »
Sweet Jesus, somebody put this thread out of its misery.
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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2010, 08:19:14 PM »
Sweet Jesus, somebody put this thread out of its misery.
you would like that...wouldn't you?!?!
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"Patriotism and popularity are the beaten paths for power and tyranny." Good, no worries about tyranny w/ Trump

"Alabama's Special Teams unit is made up of Special Ed students." - Daniel Tosh

"The HUNH does cause significant Health and Safety issues, Health issues for the opposing fans and Safety issues for the opposing coaches." - AU AD Jay Jacobs

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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 09:04:16 PM »
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even with a player, or 85, that don't even know what they're Majoring in.

Is it any worse than not knowing the name of the college you're attending?
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Mr. Sensible

Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 09:39:29 PM »
Is it any worse than not knowing the name of the college you're attending?

Prowler, we've been through this earlier today. Monkeys=Bammers. In a corner all they can do is throw shit.

Don't feed the MonkeyBammers. You'll just get shit on you.
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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2010, 09:41:38 PM »
Prowler, we've been through this earlier today. Monkeys=Bammers. In a corner all they can do is throw shit.

Don't feed the MonkeyBammers. You'll just get shit on you.
A hit dog hollers.....or in SPuat's case, a cornered monkey throws shit.
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"Patriotism and popularity are the beaten paths for power and tyranny." Good, no worries about tyranny w/ Trump

"Alabama's Special Teams unit is made up of Special Ed students." - Daniel Tosh

"The HUNH does cause significant Health and Safety issues, Health issues for the opposing fans and Safety issues for the opposing coaches." - AU AD Jay Jacobs

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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2010, 10:09:31 PM »
Prowler, we've been through this earlier today. Monkeys=Bammers. In a corner all they can do is throw shit.

Don't feed the MonkeyBammers. You'll just get shit on you.

Honestly.  How can you differentiate?

I see shit flinging monkeys in both corners.
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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2010, 01:19:00 AM »
It is after all ABOUT CLASS.  Do you get credit for showing up nowadays?  I had a prof that attended all of 3 classes back when Jesus was a carpenter.
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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2010, 08:07:48 AM »
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"That kinesiology instructor, Tiffany Mayne,"


Must suck to have a prof with a great stripper name but look nothing like.......
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1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Mr. Sensible

Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2010, 08:20:01 AM »
Honestly.  How can you differentiate?

I see shit flinging monkeys in both corners.

It happens in both corners, but on this board BHam/Kingpin and RWS get drawn/painted into this corners often.
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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2010, 10:38:04 AM »
Sweet Jesus, somebody put this thread out of its misery.

What's wrong with the thread? (at least up to the point that you voted to end it).

The opening babble about "better APR scores = cheating" was useless to me.  However, the info about Saban's time at LSU was pretty interesting, and quite a bit more credible since includes actual NCAA investigation and lawsuits.  The LSU info then piques my interest in the Alabama APR scores a little more. 

That's worth discussing, at least to some extent.
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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2010, 10:51:36 AM »
Sweet Jesus, somebody put this thread out of its misery.
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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2010, 11:00:52 AM »
Sweet Jesus, somebody put this thread out of its misery.

"Jesus ain't got nothing to do with this thread."
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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2010, 07:18:02 PM »
"Jesus ain't got nothing to do with this thread."

Yeah...RWS...Nothing to do with this thread!!!!!!
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"The HUNH does cause significant Health and Safety issues, Health issues for the opposing fans and Safety issues for the opposing coaches." - AU AD Jay Jacobs

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Re: Hmmmm Spuat's APR score continues to grow?
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2010, 07:48:59 PM »
So, where should Alabama's APR score be? What is the break point where it becomes cheating?
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