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Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate

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Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« on: February 09, 2010, 03:57:18 PM »
Seriously, Huckabee still has traction?  Running this bigoted, neo-Con as a Presidential Candidate in 2012 will be a HUGE mistake in my opinion.  This guy is so far to the right socially so he'll turn-off most independents and his views on Crime are a travesty (I remind you of Mr. Huckabee's parole release of the rapist and murderer Wayne DuMond-who continued his raping and murdering after his parole {just one of many comments/stories: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/huckabee-on-rapist-murderer/ }; what political fodder that alone will make...it'll be enough to shut down his "social conservative" support who take a hard-line view on criminals, especially repeat offenders this offensive).  The ONE, even politically weakened, will be a formidable candidate and we don't need to run Huckleberry Hound against him.  (I know this is just one early poll in one Deep South state but I just cannot accept that the Republicans are self-destructive enough to run this guy.)

Here's an excerpt from an article on The Politico, all emphasis is my own:

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Alabama poll: Mike Huckabee is 2012 front-runner
By JONATHAN MARTIN | 2/9/10 11:29 AM EST

In a reminder of his strength with social conservatives, Mike Huckabee leads his nearest GOP competitor by 10 percentage points, according to a new poll of Alabama Republicans.

Thirty-three percent of Alabama Republicans polled support the former Arkansas governor for the 2012 presidential nomination, while 23 percent said they would back Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor and 2008 vice presidential nominee. The next closest Republican to Huckabee and Palin is former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who takes 12 percent of the vote.

The survey, commissioned by a Montgomery-based public affairs company, is to be released Tuesday.

It illustrates the support Huckabee still enjoys among the sort of Christian conservative voters who dominate GOP primaries in the South.
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Full article:
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=B3905584-18FE-70B2-A8E27D7FCDCEAFE6
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 04:03:42 PM »
Seriously, Huckabee still has traction?  Running this bigoted, neo-Con as a Presidential Candidate in 2012 will be a HUGE mistake in my opinion.  This guy is so far to the right socially so he'll turn-off most independents and his views on Crime are a travesty (I remind you of Mr. Huckabee's parole release of the rapist and murderer Wayne DuMond-who continued his raping and murdering after his parole {just one of many comments/stories: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/huckabee-on-rapist-murderer/ }; what political fodder that alone will make...it'll be enough to shut down his "social conservative" support who take a hard-line view on criminals, especially repeat offenders this offensive).  The ONE, even politically weakened, will be a formidable candidate and we don't need to run Huckleberry Hound against him.  (I know this is just one early poll in one Deep South state but I just cannot accept that the Republicans are self-destructive enough to run this guy.)

Here's an excerpt from an article on The Politico, all emphasis is my own:

Full article:
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=B3905584-18FE-70B2-A8E27D7FCDCEAFE6
I certainly like Huckabee better than Palin. Don't agree with him on everything, but there's virtually no major party candidate that I do agree with to that degree (the closest being maybe Ron Paul).

Republicans need some new blood if they want to stand a chance. Scott Brown?
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 04:14:27 PM »
I certainly like Huckabee better than Palin. Don't agree with him on everything, but there's virtually no major party candidate that I do agree with to that degree (the closest being maybe Ron Paul).

Republicans need some new blood if they want to stand a chance. Scott Brown?

Palin is politically damaged goods; at the end of the day she would not be a winning candidate.  I don't think she'll run despite her hinting to Chris Wallace on FoxNewsSunday that she would.  She's enjoying being a pundit.

Scott Brown?  Maybe.  Or someone like him but I don't see anyone on the horizon other than possibly Bobby Jindal but he too needs some political seasoning.


I forgot to mention another one of Huckabee's examples of Leniency...surely everyone remembers the fine, upstanding, reformed citizen Maurice Clemmons who Huckabee paroled...he went on to murder four cops in Tacoma, Washington just last year.  Here's an interesting account of that sad chapter in Huckleberry's political career:

http://crimevictimsmediareport.com/?p=2090

I'm truly disgusted that Huckleberry gets any kind of attention.  The 'empathetic' bigot does not deserve it.
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-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2010, 04:20:54 PM »
I certainly like Huckabee better than Palin. Don't agree with him on everything, but there's virtually no major party candidate that I do agree with to that degree (the closest being maybe Ron Paul).

Republicans need some new blood if they want to stand a chance. Scott Brown?


Maybe Rand Paul, Ron's son?  Just throwing that out there. 

He's running for Senate in Kentucky and is not quite as "fringy" as his old man.
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2010, 04:24:25 PM »
I actually agree with a lot of what Ron Paul has to say.........it's what I disagree with him on that scares the shit out of me.   So much so that I can't take him seriously.

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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 04:57:11 PM »
I actually agree with a lot of what Ron Paul has to say.........it's what I disagree with him on that scares the poop out of me.   So much so that I can't take him seriously.


Ron's better than Huckabee whom I can't take seriously at all.
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 05:01:42 PM »
Ron's better than Huckabee whom I can't take seriously at all.

Agree. 
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2010, 06:52:34 PM »
Huckabee won the Alabama Republican presidential primary back in '08 (by a pretty comfortable margin). I have to admit voting for him because I could not make myself connect the arrow on the ballot for Juan McCain. I held my nose and voted against Chairman Maobama that November.

I hope we see a better Republican rise to prominence. No one is really turning my head thus far.   
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2010, 06:59:58 PM »
Huckabee won the Alabama Republican presidential primary back in '08 (by a pretty comfortable margin). I have to admit voting for him because I could not make myself connect the arrow on the ballot for Juan McCain. I held my nose and voted against Chairman Maobama that November.

I hope we see a better Republican rise to prominence. No one is really turning my head thus far.   
I voted McCain in the primary, then wasted my time voting for Bob Barr in the election.

I was at least hoping for a blip of a mention that he recieved .3% of the vote or whatever. Didn't happen.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2010, 07:16:02 PM »
He has his flaws, but I still like Newt.  I think he has the balls and experience to get shit straightened out.  We are in such a mess that it is going to take someone that has a major league spine to get us on the right track.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2010, 01:12:33 AM »
He has his flaws, but I still like Newt.  I think he has the balls and experience to get poop straightened out.  We are in such a mess that it is going to take someone that has a major league spine to get us on the right track.

You may be on to something there with Newt; despite his flaws he's got the fiscal conservatism and track record to make the tough decisions to balance the budget.  He's certainly no follower of Keynes.

I voted McCain in the primary, then wasted my time voting for Bob Barr in the election.

I was at least hoping for a blip of a mention that he recieved .3% of the vote or whatever. Didn't happen.

Bob Barr used to be my Congressman...I may have mentioned before what a slime-ball he is; but back then he was a Republican.

Newt used to be my Congressman too...what a coincidence.





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The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2010, 10:01:00 AM »
I am with Chad here.
I like both Ron and Rand Paul.

Palin - I like her personally, not sure she is ready to be Prez. I think she is better in a role like Limbaugh - a rebel rouser of sorts, maybe RNC Chairman. Lord knows Michael Steele is terrible.

Huckabee actually bores me. Too much Mister Rogers, not enough Ronald Reagan.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2010, 10:06:07 AM »
Palin - I like her personally, not sure she is ready to be Prez. I think she is better in a role like Limbaugh - a rebel rouser of sorts, maybe RNC Chairman.
This is what I've said about her since about halfway through last year's presidential election. Screamed it since the election was over.

Funny that that appears to be the role she's taking on, now that she has her own Fox News show. That's where she belongs. She's fitted for that sort of thing. Not as a legitimate politician.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2010, 10:06:20 AM »
I am with Chad here.
I like both Ron and Rand Paul.

Palin - I like her personally, not sure she is ready to be Prez. I think she is better in a role like Limbaugh - a rebel rouser of sorts, maybe RNC Chairman. Lord knows Michael Steele is terrible.

Huckabee actually bores me. Too much Mister Rogers, not enough Ronald Reagan.

Really?  I have always enjoyed hearing him when I have.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2010, 10:32:32 AM »
Really?  I have always enjoyed hearing him when I have.

Steele is a neocon. How much success have we had with them?  Ford, Nixon, Rockefeller, McCain, Dole, Bush 1/2....and on and on and on.....True GOPs like Lincoln, TR, Reagan, Goldwater, etc are what is needed.

He also has no backbone. Right now is a prime time to be pouncing on Obama and the Dems. Not Steele.  Limbaugh, Beck and Palin are doing more than the RNC Chair is. I used to like Newt, but I think he sold out to the neocons years ago. At this point Ron Paul is the only one who had it RIGHT during the election. Everything he has said has come to light. He "gets it". I like Thompson too, but he has some of the bore factor that Huckabee does.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2010, 10:45:26 AM »
I've been reading about Rand Paul. I admit that I did not know much about him until he was mentioned in this thread.

This is the guy.

Senate in 2010 & President in 2012.

I'm afraid Republicans will arrogantly pick another Sarah Palin-esque base motivator, who will alienate the middle.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2010, 11:25:14 AM »
I'm all for Newt. 

The only problem I see is that a lot of America may see him (white hair) as just another "same ole" kinda politician.  I think he's strong enough to overcome it, but will he get a chance?  He is 66 years old, and would be 72 when he finishes what would be his first term, and well into his mid to late 70's for a second term.  Not sure how people (especially younger folks) would feel about that.

I think the fact that he was Speaker during some very good years would really help.  I know Clinton gets a lot of credit for that time, but people always ignore that Newt and Republicans ran the house and the senate.  Just like the same people like to ignore that Pelosi and Reid ran things the last couple years of the Bush presidency (wonder how we were heading into a recession as Obama got there?  maybe it's because they got a two year head start on f-ing things up).



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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2010, 11:46:01 AM »
This is a good site (I'm sure many of you have seen it) that can help sort out where people stand on what.  It takes 20-25 topics, both social and political, such as tax reform, gun control, health reform, energy, education, abortion, budget, etc, and gives quotes (and links to the interview or speech from which the quote was taken), shows voting records, etc.  

In the end, it takes all of these things (quotes, votes, etc) and summarizes where a politician stands overall.

They show it on a graph that looks like this...

Fred Thompson's chart





Nancy Pelosi's chart


There is also a section where you can go through and answer certain questions and it will show where you stand on the chart.


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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2010, 11:51:47 AM »
There is also a section where you can go through and answer certain questions and it will show where you stand on the chart.

Link, Please?
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2010, 12:02:49 PM »
Oh yeah, sorry.

Here is the quiz link.

http://www.ontheissues.org/quizeng/XPolitics/quiz_main.asp?Page=1&Clear=Y

I think as we get closer to elections, the questions change a little or they add to them to reflect some of the issues that are being debated or that platforms are being built around.
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