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« on: January 26, 2010, 05:52:05 PM »
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/333029-auburn-football-recruiting-is-it-for-real-or-is-it-just-hype

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Auburn Football Recruiting: Is It For Real or Is It Just Hype?
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Jack Phillips

The recruiting wars are in full force. The Auburn fans are already buying food and drinks for Signing Day. Somehow, Auburn has found its way into the top five.

I know this will not hold up, and once again high expectations in the Plains are going to turn to weird looks and attacks on opposing SEC schools message boards.

This year, Chizik and staff have gone out and received verbal commitments from athletes in 11 states. California, Missouri, Texas, and Kansas are all sending their boys to south Alabama.

There has to be 200 four-star players within three hours of Auburn. Couldn't they have signed them? No, because you have to get guys who don't know the history in the Plains. The history of an Auburn program shooting itself in the foot. Bowden gate, Tuberville being ousted by the banker etc. It's funny stuff.

One thing I learned from Urban Meyer is to recruit the best athletes you can from as close to the school as possible. There are a couple of reasons. The players like to have family and friends come watch them play.

The biggest reason is a lot of players get home sick if they are too far from home. It's a big deal to be playing on TV, but if your family and friends aren't there to enjoy it with you there is a void. Look at the number of transfers closer to home in 2009.

Once the smoke clears, some of the Auburn verbals are going to go elsewhere. Auburn lost five of their last six SEC games last year. The Malzahn offense worked initially, but it was too predictable after mid-season.

Auburn finished fifth in the SEC West. Not really that impressive. Same Auburn result.  Lots of hype, high expectations then attack other SEC message boards.

In 2010, Auburn faithful are praying to sign this class. It's their only shot of staying competitive in the near future.

Alabama is dominating the state and the SEC West, and will continue as long as Saban is there. And Georgia continues to dominate the South's Oldest Rivalry. Georgia will be the SEC East champs in 2010.

In 2010, Auburn will finish the season 5-7. The tigers will lose to Clemson, South Carolina, Arkansas again, Kentucky again, LSU again, Georgia again, and Alabama again. I'm giving you Ole Miss and Miss State, but that's not a gimme either. They could go 3-9.

Here are some predictions to watch for. First, three of the current verbals will go somewhere else, most likely the SEC. This is already in the works.

Marcus Lattimore has a big press conference and commits to South Carolina, making Chizik and company look like losers. Seastrunk and Howard go elsewhere, and that dream dies too.

Gus Malzahn leaves (like at Arkansas). Eric Mack doesn't qualify or drops out of school and never plays a down as a Tiger. Ted Roof gets fired because they are giving up too many big plays. Seen it before. It's very predictable.

Everything at Auburn is based on hype, and that balloon is getting ready to pop. If you are an Auburn fan, you are at the top of the mountain right now, and the only direction to go is down.
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Re: Fear
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2010, 05:57:38 PM »
Did Greasey write this?
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2010, 06:25:15 PM »
The Bleacher Report is full of hacks, nobody's and has beens.   It's fodder for a good laugh though.
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 06:32:12 PM »
This is an actual article on a website? 

It's an average message board post at best.  Not even worth breaking down.
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 06:33:21 PM »
Chizad, I will tell you the same thing I tell Prowler. Just because you want it to be really really bad, doesn't mean it is so.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2010, 07:06:54 PM »
Chizad, I will tell you the same thing I tell Prowler. Just because you want it to be really really bad, doesn't mean it is so.
Same could be said about the author of that article, Confucius.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2010, 07:18:02 PM »
Why even post that barely-literate garbage here? 
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2010, 07:46:15 PM »
Why even post that barely-literate garbage here? 

Cause it made me laugh my ass off.

In the interest of disclosure, that was a UGAy fan, not a bammer that wrote that.

Possibly this one.

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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2010, 10:09:42 PM »
Did Greasey write this?
Nope. He capitalized "chizik". Thats proof that he thinks more of him than I do. Antime you have dye in good graces with the team there will be plenty of talent $igned.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2010, 10:11:09 PM »
I read enough to actually laugh a little.  

Idiots like that amaze me in the fact that they can read and write.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2010, 10:15:38 PM »

Idiots like that amaze me in the fact that they can read and write.

Barely.
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2010, 10:29:43 AM »
Nope. He capitalized "chizik". Thats proof that he thinks more of him than I do. Antime you have dye in good graces with the team there will be plenty of talent $igned.

Nice to know you think so highly of Auburn, jackass.

Tuberville can recruit to Auburn.  Richt can recruit to Georgia.  Saban/Miles can recruit to LSU.  Fulmer/Kiffin can recruit to Tennessee.  But if Chizik and his coaches (that are known to be good recruiters) can recruit to Auburn....we must be cheating? 

:fu:

Now write me a nice long response that includes how much you do think highly of Auburn, but that you don't think highly of Chizik or Dye, so if recruiting is going well, we must be cheating (even though his staff does most of the recruiting....as do most staffs).   :sad:
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 11:05:21 AM »
Nice to know you think so highly of Auburn, jackass.

Tuberville can recruit to Auburn.  Richt can recruit to Georgia.  Saban/Miles can recruit to LSU.  Fulmer/Kiffin can recruit to Tennessee.  But if Chizik and his coaches (that are known to be good recruiters) can recruit to Auburn....we must be cheating? 

:fu:

Now write me a nice long response that includes how much you do think highly of Auburn, but that you don't think highly of Chizik or Dye, so if recruiting is going well, we must be cheating (even though his staff does most of the recruiting....as do most staffs).   :sad:

Hes about the only person I have ever seen from the AU side who hates Dye. This guy lives in another world. Dye put us back on the map nationally and got the IB in Auburn. The political maneuvering he did for the sake of Auburn was priceless. GreasyPenis needs to up his medication. He is delusional - as he always is.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2010, 11:07:40 AM »
Hes about the only person I have ever seen from the AU side who hates Dye. This guy lives in another world. Dye put us back on the map nationally and got the IB in Auburn. The political maneuvering he did for the sake of Auburn was priceless. GreasyPenis needs to up his medication. He is delusional - as he always is.
No, what you don't understand is you're not a real Auburn fan. No one is. But him. He's the only true Auburn fan in existence.

Didn't you get the memo?
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2010, 11:11:26 AM »
No, what you don't understand is you're not a real Auburn fan. No one is. But him. He's the only true Auburn fan in existence.

Didn't you get the memo?

Ok, so let me make sure I got it right:

Tubs is the greatest thing of all time and should be bowed down to - check.
Dye is scum and did nothing for Auburn - check
Auburn has to cheat to do anything good - check
To be a real Auburn man you have to root against Chizik - check
Make future predictions involving Oct 31st, 2009 and asinine statements that never seem to add up - EVER - check
Come up with a nickname on message boards that is lickened to that of something a pornstar would call his phallus - check
I will see what I can do.
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2010, 11:12:16 AM »
Hes about the only person I have ever seen from the AU side who hates Dye. This guy lives in another world. Dye put us back on the map nationally and got the IB in Auburn. The political maneuvering he did for the sake of Auburn was priceless. GreasyPenis needs to up his medication. He is delusional - as he always is.

Love Dye.  Eternal debt of gratitude for what he did for Auburn.  

But he did come up in a different time when things were done a different way.  Just like the good ol' boy politics that dominated Alabama under the esteemed George Corley Wallace and continued down through the Folsom clan and such has been replaced by a different kind of corruption, so too has the good ol' boy way of handling things given way to a different breed of coach.  

How many kids do you think Dye snatched up by the facemask? Slapped upside the head?  It was more than a few.  Let's ask Jim Leavitt or Mark Mangino if that shit's gonna fly.

And he did business the Bryant, Switzer, Majors way.  Same thing every single coach who spent any time working under the cheating  bastard Bryant learned it -- and was subsequently busted.  Name one single former Bryant assistant who DIDN'T go on probation at some point.  Don't think there is one.

Dye's way of doing things was right for Auburn in 1981.  Not sure that still holds true in 2010.  And I think that's what greasy - in his belligerent way -- is trying to say.
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Re: Fear
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2010, 11:19:29 AM »
Geez K, you are better and smarter than that. Don't agree with this guy. He hates Dye in any capacity. Of course its not good to do it that way now. Nobody says we are going to. I agree though - doing it that way in 1981 was almost a MUST to get equal footing with Bama and national recognition - and it worked. What is our record since 1983 overall and against Bama? GreasyPenis would have us go back to the Barfield years since they were "clean". We owe a debt of gratitude to Dye. He stood toe to toe with Bear and basically told him that Auburn wasn't going to be scared of Bama anymore. Now - tell me it didnt work. No one else had EVER done that. EVER. Not Shug, Not Majors, Not Dooley - no one.

As for the list of Bear proteges that stick out to me with serious NCAA troubles:

Dye
Sherrill
Dubose
Ford - in 2 places!

I guess Croom is one who stayed clean. I actually like Sly. Maybe not the BEST coach in the world, but nice guy nonetheless and he didnt put up with crap at MSU like Sherrill did.
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Re: Fear
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2010, 11:23:42 AM »


And he did business the Bryant, Switzer, Majors way.  Same thing every single coach who spent any time working under the cheating  bastard Bryant learned it -- and was subsequently busted.  Name one single former Bryant assistant who DIDN'T go on probation at some point.  Don't think there is one.


Howard Schnellenberger & Mike Riley are the only two I can think of that have not been run out of the game by the NCAA.

And Riley played for bryant but never coached under him.

David Cutcliff is another one.....but his connection is a bit of a stretch

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2010, 11:24:41 AM »
Love Dye.  Eternal debt of gratitude for what he did for Auburn.  

But he did come up in a different time when things were done a different way.  Just like the good ol' boy politics that dominated Alabama under the esteemed George Corley Wallace and continued down through the Folsom clan and such has been replaced by a different kind of corruption, so too has the good ol' boy way of handling things given way to a different breed of coach.  

How many kids do you think Dye snatched up by the facemask? Slapped upside the head?  It was more than a few.  Let's ask Jim Leavitt or Mark Mangino if that shit's gonna fly.

And he did business the Bryant, Switzer, Majors way.  Same thing every single coach who spent any time working under the cheating  bastard Bryant learned it -- and was subsequently busted.  Name one single former Bryant assistant who DIDN'T go on probation at some point.  Don't think there is one.

Dye's way of doing things was right for Auburn in 1981.  Not sure that still holds true in 2010.  And I think that's what greasy - in his belligerent way -- is trying to say.
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Re: Fear
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2010, 11:27:18 AM »
He stood toe to toe with Bear and basically told him that Auburn wasn't going to be scared of Bama anymore. Now - tell me it didnt work. No one else had EVER done that. EVER. Not Shug, Not Majors, Not Dooley - no one.


dont necessarily disagree with your statement but technically it is not true.  Shug had no fear of bryant and bryant was said to have feared (as much as a coach can fear any opposing player) one player in his coaching career.........

Pat Sullivan.

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ps: forgot about Croom (but he was somewhat untouchable) and don't forget to add Stallings to your cheaters list.......he and Hootie were knee deep in that poop....and of course, do not leave out my hero Charlie Pell    :)

pps: as for using Dooley in your analogy.....it doesn't quite hold.  The way the SEC was back then, Dooley did not have to really concern himself with bryant.  Dooley won 6 SEC titles and a MNC during bryant's time at uat.  Dooley was the  only coach to win so many SEC titles and the only SEC coach to win a MNC during bryant's tenure at uat. (iirc)
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