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Nope. Not at all. Worth noting that Auburn's status in basketball is completely different than our status in football, though. There are things we might have to do to solicit fan and booster support in basketball that we'd never, ever do for football.

Tuberville was out there. Everybody in the state new who he was. He didn't have to ride in a hot air balloon and land on top of Wal Marts to do so.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 18, 2009, 03:06:55 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on December 18, 2009, 03:01:11 PM

Nope. Not at all.

Tuberville was out there. Everybody in the state new who he was. He didn't have to ride in a hot air balloon and land on top of Wal Marts to do so.

At what point in his Auburn tenure? He was known in the beginning for his "pine box" comments. Not really a great thing to be known for. At the end of his decade here, of course everyone knew him. They had time to get to know him based upon his product.

At the beginning of Chizik's tenure he was well known for "5-19". Then the coaches hit the road. Getting attention. Doing exactly what you claim to want. IF Chizik is still here in 2019 (I hope your head didn't just explode), then I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that everyone knows him based upon his product.

I honestly thought, given your earlier comments in this thread vis a vis Auburn not being a basketball school, that you'd have two sets of criteria for the coaches of bball and fball.

War Eagle!!! · « **Reply #26 on:** December 18, 2009, 03:07:03 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on December 18, 2009, 03:01:11 PM

Nope. Not at all.

Tuberville was out there. Everybody in the state new who he was. He didn't have to ride in a hot air balloon and land on top of Wal Marts to do so.

What does that have to do with having passion for your school and passion for your team to win?

Tub got lost in the big city lights when Saban got into town. Maybe if he would have had a little passion, or rode in a hot air balloon, he would still be at Auburn...

Kaos · « **Reply #27 on:** December 18, 2009, 03:14:06 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on December 18, 2009, 03:06:55 PM

At what point in his Auburn tenure? He was known in the beginning for his "pine box" comments. Not really a great thing to be known for. At the end of his decade here, of course everyone knew him. They had time to get to know him based upon his product.

At the beginning of Chizik's tenure he was well known for "5-19". Then the coaches hit the road. Getting attention. Doing exactly what you claim to want. IF Chizik is still here in 2019 (I hope your head didn't just explode), then I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that everyone knows him based upon his product.

I honestly thought, given your earlier comments in this thread vis a vis Auburn not being a basketball school, that you'd have two sets of criteria for the coaches of bball and fball.

We aren't historically a basketball school.

Not sure what you're asking in terms of criteria.

Criteria? I think I want the same things from any coach in any sport.

Expectations are different,though. I don't expect somebody to take over the basketball program and in two years win the national title. That's not who we are. I'd love for it to be, but it's not.

Football? We have the base there. Everything a coach would need to accomplish that task is in place. We haven't gotten there yet.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #28 on:** December 18, 2009, 03:17:21 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on December 18, 2009, 03:14:06 PM

Criteria? I think I want the same things from any coach in any sport.

Given this as your stated criteria:

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I just want somebody with intensity and passion for the game. I want somebody who is going to get out and get noticed.

How does Chizik rate?

Kaos · « **Reply #29 on:** December 18, 2009, 03:30:28 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on December 18, 2009, 03:17:21 PM

Given this as your stated criteria:

How does Chizik rate?

Irrelevant.

We currently have a basketball coach who does not seem -- at least to me -- to be well known among high school coaches. We do not have a significant in-state presence. He also gets little notice from media outside the state. You never hear Lebo called for insight on any of the national radio or Tv shows either.

My desire to have a basketball coach who is more aggressive and more direct in getting exposure for Auburn has nothing to do with my feelings for or against Chizik.

I do want our football coach to be a good representative and media accessible, but if you want to know the truth that's really not Chizik's forte either. Chizik has the personality of a damp dishrag in media situations. He's not "fuck you" like Saban which enthralls the abuse-loving media and he's not Handshake Harry like Tuberville was. Chizik is clearly uncomfortable in that role. Maybe he grows into it. But he's not ready for it now. His SEC Media Days appearance was Ron-Jeremy's-dick-in-a-latino-whorehouse stiff. He doesn't have to be Chris Rock, but he could loosen up a little.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #30 on:** December 19, 2009, 03:08:06 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on December 18, 2009, 03:30:28 PM

I do want our football coach to be a good representative and media accessible, but if you want to know the truth that's really not Chizik's forte either. Chizik has the personality of a damp dishrag in media situations. He's not "fuck you" like Saban which enthralls the abuse-loving media and he's not Handshake Harry like Tuberville was. Chizik is clearly uncomfortable in that role. Maybe he grows into it. But he's not ready for it now. His SEC Media Days appearance was Ron-Jeremy's-dick-in-a-latino-whorehouse stiff. He doesn't have to be Chris Rock, but he could loosen up a little.

Would you like to amend your criteria as stated previously?

Kaos · « **Reply #31 on:** December 19, 2009, 06:28:45 PM »

LivnonaPryr · « **Reply #32 on:** December 19, 2009, 06:34:35 PM »

Anyone who spent that much time running point for Dean Smith deserves respect, period. You can get off his nuts. It is not his fault that we have not been able to recruit. Our facilities WERE some of the worst in the conference. He can and will do better w/ proper backing. If you want to help buy season tickets for basketball too.

Kaos · « **Reply #33 on:** December 19, 2009, 09:31:04 PM »

Sorry Mrs. Lebo.

Too late.

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #34 on:** December 20, 2009, 10:39:42 AM »

Quote from: LivnonaPryr on December 19, 2009, 06:34:35 PM

Anyone who spent that much time running point for Dean Smith deserves respect, period. You can get off his nuts. It is not his fault that we have not been able to recruit. Our facilities WERE some of the worst in the conference. He can and will do better w/ proper backing. If you want to help buy season tickets for basketball too.

It absolutely IS his fault we haven't been able to recruit. That's part of his job description. It's always, ALWAYS, an excuse with Lebo. That's a trend. That's his style. I'm not going to downplay Auburn athletics for anyone. Lebo can't win. Get someone who can at least make the tournament.

War Eagle!!! · « **Reply #35 on:** December 20, 2009, 10:18:54 PM »

Quote from: Townhallsavoy on December 20, 2009, 10:39:42 AM

It absolutely IS his fault we haven't been able to recruit. That's part of his job description. It's always, ALWAYS, an excuse with Lebo. That's a trend. That's his style. I'm not going to downplay Auburn athletics for anyone. Lebo can't win. Get someone who can at least ~~make the tournament~~ beat Missouri State or UCF or Troy and Sam Houston State AT FUCKING HOME.

FTFY

He needs to go....NOW...

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #36 on:** December 20, 2009, 10:30:54 PM »

Quote from: War Eagle!!! on December 20, 2009, 10:18:54 PM

FTFY

He needs to go....NOW...

Agreed. This is probably the most talented team he's had sine he's been here. Easily the most well-rounded group. Size (For once) speed , experience. No excuse for this shit. Problem is..does anyone who counts notice..or care?

Saniflush · « **Reply #37 on:** December 21, 2009, 07:42:25 AM »

Quote from: Harvey Birdman on December 20, 2009, 10:30:54 PM

Agreed. This is probably the most talented team he's had sine he's been here. Easily the most well-rounded group. Size (For once) speed , experience. No excuse for this shit. Problem is..does anyone who counts notice..or care?

I count and I care.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #38 on:** December 21, 2009, 09:43:16 AM »

Quote from: Kaos on December 19, 2009, 06:28:45 PM

No.

OK, keep moving those goalposts to keep Chizik on your shit list, then.

Kaos · « **Reply #39 on:** December 21, 2009, 09:50:59 AM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on December 21, 2009, 09:43:16 AM

OK, keep moving those goalposts to keep Chizik on your poop list, then.

Whatever. I don't move anything. 100% consistent.

You ask for clarification. I give it. Nothing moved. Except maybe your ....nevermind.