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*Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*

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*Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« on: December 13, 2009, 03:05:34 PM »
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2009, 12:14:18 PM »
Also, Jim McElwain possibly to San Jose St as HC. 
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2009, 01:59:57 PM »
Also, Jim McElwain possibly to San Jose St as HC. 

I have heard yes and no on that one. I would not be surprised but I think he is staying. We might lose Coach Cig to the NFL.
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2009, 02:08:58 PM »
I have heard yes and no on that one. I would not be surprised but I think he is staying. We might lose Coach Cig to the NFL.

Well personally, I think I would stay at OC for bama then go take over San Jose St.
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 09:32:10 AM »
Also, Jim McElwain possibly to San Jose St as HC. 
Rumors around some of the boards are that both McElwain and Doug Nussmeier turned down the SJS job. Not sure how true it is, though. Haven't heard any meltdown or anything on Alabama boards about him leaving or anything, so it may be accurate.
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 09:39:24 AM »
Rumors around some of the boards are that both McElwain and Doug Nussmeier turned down the SJS job. Not sure how true it is, though. Haven't heard any meltdown or anything on Alabama boards about him leaving or anything, so it may be accurate.

Taking my Auburn bias away from the picture for a moment, losing McElwain would be far more hurtful for the bama program then any of the other assistants. Like mentioned above, if I were him I would stay put for a better gig in the future.
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 09:44:58 AM »
Taking my Auburn bias away from the picture for a moment, losing McElwain would be far more hurtful for the bama program then any of the other assistants. Like mentioned above, if I were him I would stay put for a better gig in the future.

You are correct my friend.
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 09:49:14 AM »
Taking my Auburn bias away from the picture for a moment, losing McElwain would be far more hurtful for the bama program then any of the other assistants. Like mentioned above, if I were him I would stay put for a better gig in the future.

Yeah that certainly does not seem to be a step up in my book.
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 11:03:41 AM »
Taking my Auburn bias away from the picture for a moment, losing McElwain would be far more hurtful for the bama program then any of the other assistants. Like mentioned above, if I were him I would stay put for a better gig in the future.
Yes, and I think the majority of the fanbase realizes this, and would collectively shit their pants if McElwain left. I know I would. What I like about him is that he doesn't run a "system". He doesn't have an "offense" he brings with him. Its just a plain old multiple formation offense. A little bit of everything thrown in. If he were to hang on for a few more years, he would certainly get a better offer than SJS. I'm not saying a gig in the SEC or anything, but I'm sure he could be a coach somewhere better than SJS.

I think we're going to be OK as far as assistants this season. Depending on which UGA folks you listen to, Kirby Smart might head to Athens. Really, I don't think it will happen. I think its just UGA fans wishing. He would be monumentally stupid to make a lateral move from Alabama to Georgia, unless they gave him a "head coach in waiting" type contract.
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 11:11:11 AM »
.... Depending on which UGA folks you listen to, Kirby Smart might head to Athens. Really, I don't think it will happen. I think its just UGA fans wishing. He would be monumentally stupid to make a lateral move from Alabama to Georgia, unless they gave him a "head coach in waiting" type contract.

Yeah, Kirby Smart moving to Georgia as a DC would be pretty idiotic. I think one of the factors of this still getting a play is the idea of Saban being hard to work for or with. I could see how that may a reason but Georgia isn't exactly on top of the world right now. If I am an assistant, I am not thinking the move to Georgia would help my chances of getting a HC job more than staying at bama.
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 11:22:16 AM »
Yeah, Kirby Smart moving to Georgia as a DC would be pretty idiotic. I think one of the factors of this still getting a play is the idea of Saban being hard to work for or with. I could see how that may a reason but Georgia isn't exactly on top of the world right now. If I am an assistant, I am not thinking the move to Georgia would help my chances of getting a HC job more than staying at bama.
As far as long hours and stuff working for Saban, I'm thinking if he's made it this far, he's probably over the hump. Meaning, if he was going to go for that reason, he probably already would have. Can't say for sure, though. Really, I'm not so sure Alabama couldn't give Kirby Smart a "head coach in waiting" type deal. He has spent the past 8 years coaching under Bobby Bowden (2 years) or Nick Saban (6 years). Thats not a bad pedigree to come from. 
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 11:25:15 AM »
As far as long hours and stuff working for Saban, I'm thinking if he's made it this far, he's probably over the hump. Meaning, if he was going to go for that reason, he probably already would have. Can't say for sure, though. Really, I'm not so sure Alabama couldn't give Kirby Smart a "head coach in waiting" type deal. He has spent the past 8 years coaching under Bobby Bowden (2 years) or Nick Saban (6 years). Thats not a bad pedigree to come from. 

No not at all. That solidifies even more that him moving to UGA would be more devastating to his career then anything. I will say this though, I do like Mark Richt, but if he continues to take the downfall, he will be ousted. Then, Kirby Smart would be in prime position to move from bamas DC to UGAs HC.
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2009, 11:40:50 AM »
No not at all. That solidifies even more that him moving to UGA would be more devastating to his career then anything. I will say this though, I do like Mark Richt, but if he continues to take the downfall, he will be ousted. Then, Kirby Smart would be in prime position to move from bamas DC to UGAs HC.
I could go along with that. His wife graduated from UGA as well, so that would really be win-win. I think another poor showing by Richt next year could put him out the door. That quick. And if AJ Green is smart, he would get the fuck out of there after next year, regardless. But back to Smart, you have to wonder just how quickly he would consider UGA.

Its not like Saban is going to stay at Alabama forever. FWIW, I think this is Saban's last stop. If we're lucky, we get another 5 years out of him. Of course nobody knows what either program will look like in 5 years, but its a safe bet to assume the cupboard will be full with some top shelf talent. If UGA's cupboard isn't all that full, would you rather rebuild a program from scratch, or take over one on cruise control?
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2009, 11:43:04 AM »
Kirby is from Bainbridge, GA. He went to UGA and coached there before. It would not be a good career move but it could be a heart move. Not saying it is smart but I would understand.
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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2009, 12:22:57 PM »
I could go along with that. His wife graduated from UGA as well, so that would really be win-win. I think another poor showing by Richt next year could put him out the door. That quick. And if AJ Green is smart, he would get the phuk out of there after next year, regardless. But back to Smart, you have to wonder just how quickly he would consider UGA.

Its not like Saban is going to stay at Alabama forever. FWIW, I think this is Saban's last stop. If we're lucky, we get another 5 years out of him. Of course nobody knows what either program will look like in 5 years, but its a safe bet to assume the cupboard will be full with some top shelf talent. If UGA's cupboard isn't all that full, would you rather rebuild a program from scratch, or take over one on cruise control?

I dont know really, I mean some coaches like the challenge of rebuilding something and make it their own. I guess that would then become a pride issue (and a money issue ofcourse). Thats a good question though. I think if it was me, I would like to make my own program if enough money is involved but it sure would be a lot easier to take over a program that already has the players your looking for.
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2009, 12:24:20 PM »
.....Not saying it is smart but I would understand.

But it would be a Smart move....... :rofl:
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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2009, 12:40:04 PM »
I dont know really, I mean some coaches like the challenge of rebuilding something and make it their own. I guess that would then become a pride issue (and a money issue ofcourse). Thats a good question though. I think if it was me, I would like to make my own program if enough money is involved but it sure would be a lot easier to take over a program that already has the players your looking for.
As paranoid as Alabama is (and should be) of going back to the pre-Saban years, I would think we would be willing to shell out a little more cash for a Saban disciple that is already on staff. Probably a little more than UGA could justify for a first year head coach out of another program. I would suppose it would just depend on the coaching landscape at that point. We may have blown our wad as far as coaching hires when we hired Saban, but I would guess the program would be attractive enough for another high profile coach to want to do it if the time was right. Lots of hypotheticals.
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2009, 01:15:22 PM »
As paranoid as Alabama is (and should be) of going back to the pre-Saban years, I would think we would be willing to shell out a little more cash for a Saban disciple that is already on staff. Probably a little more than UGA could justify for a first year head coach out of another program. I would suppose it would just depend on the coaching landscape at that point. We may have blown our wad as far as coaching hires when we hired Saban, but I would guess the program would be attractive enough for another high profile coach to want to do it if the time was right. Lots of hypotheticals.
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Re: *Word on the skreets.....regarding coaching changes*
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2009, 02:46:10 PM »
The New Bear.... The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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