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« on: December 09, 2009, 03:12:57 PM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/sports/ncaafootball/09tennessee.html?_r=3&hp

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N.C.A.A. Puts Tennessee’s Recruiting Under Scrutiny

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By PETE THAMEL and THAYER EVANS
Published: December 8, 2009

The N.C.A.A. is conducting a wide-ranging investigation into the University of Tennessee’s football recruiting practices, according to interviews with several prospects, their family members and high school administrators. A significant part of the investigation is focused on the use of recruiting hostesses who have become folk heroes on Tennessee Internet message boards for their ability to help lure top recruits.

Lane Kiffin, the football coach at Tennessee, which confirmed an N.C.A.A. inquiry.

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N.C.A.A. officials have visited four prospects and are scheduled to visit two others this week in an investigation covering at least three states. The inquiry is unusual in its scope and its timing. It is rare that the N.C.A.A. looks at this wide a swath of one university’s recruits before the players have signed with a program in February.

Tennessee Athletic Director Mike Hamilton confirmed that an investigation was under way but declined to elaborate.

“Typically, we do not comment on inquires that are in progress,” he said Tuesday night in New York.

Since Tennessee Coach Lane Kiffin took over in December 2008 after being fired as the Oakland Raiders’ coach, the Volunteers have committed at least six secondary N.C.A.A. violations — unintentional violations that provide minimal recruiting or competitive advantage.

Interviews with multiple recruits and their family members revealed that the N.C.A.A. has strong interest in Tennessee’s use of recruiting hostesses, students who are part of a formal group at the university that hosts all manner of prospective students at campus visits, including athletes. It is not clear whether the university sent the hostesses to visit the football players.

In one case, hostesses traveled nearly 200 miles to attend a high school game in South Carolina in which at least three Tennessee recruits were playing.

Marcus Lattimore, a running back who made an unofficial visit to Tennessee but said he would not enroll there, said multiple Tennessee hostesses attended a game at James F. Byrnes High School in Duncan, S.C., in September. He said they brought signs, including one that read, “Come to Tennessee.”

“I haven’t seen no other schools do that,” he said. “It’s crazy.”

The hostesses are considered representatives of the university, which would mean they could not recruit players off campus. Therefore, the visits may be considered violations of N.C.A.A. recruiting rules.

Two of Lattimore’s teammates, Brandon Willis and Corey Miller, have orally committed to Tennessee. Lattimore described the hostesses as “real pretty, real nice and just real cool.” He said he thought they had “a lot” of influence in Miller’s and Willis’s commitments to Tennessee.

Because of their influence on recruits, the recruiting hostesses have become popular with Tennessee fans. Bryce Brown, the country’s top running back recruit last year, who is a freshman at Tennessee, was pictured on a social networking site last year with a hostess. Other Tennessee hostesses have publicly conversed with prospects through Facebook and MySpace.

Some recruits say their influence is significant.

“You don’t want to go to a college where they ain’t pretty,” Lattimore said.

Gary Willis, the father of Brandon Willis, said in a telephone interview Tuesday night that the N.C.A.A. had interviewed his son about the girls’ trip to the game. He said the girls met his son at Tennessee’s football camp last summer and told them that they would attend a game at Byrnes High, which generally has one of the best teams in the country.

Gary Willis said that the trip was not orchestrated by Tennessee’s coaches or staff.

“It was nothing planned on no one’s part,” he said of the girls’ visit.

Despite Willis’s statement that the move was not orchestrated by the university, the hostesses’ driving that far to attend a high school game and hold up signs would be considered highly unusual. Christian Jones, an outside linebacker at Lake Howell High School in Winter Park, Fla., made an official visit to Tennessee in October and said Volunteers hostesses told him they wanted to attend one of his games.

That did not happen, but he said he occasionally exchanged text messages with them.

“That’s real exciting, getting people like that wanting to support you,” Jones said Tuesday night in a telephone interview.

The N.C.A.A. visited the home of Chris Dunkley, an uncommitted receiver prospect who attends Pahokee (Fla.) High School, on Tuesday night. Dunkley confirmed the visit by the N.C.A.A. but said in a phone interview that he did not want to say more.

The N.C.A.A. is also scheduled to visit North Miami High School to talk with Ted Meline, who committed to Tennessee. North Miami Athletic Director Hector Gray confirmed the N.C.A.A.’s visit but said he knew nothing else about it.

On Thursday, the N.C.A.A. will visit the high school of JaWuan James, who has orally committed to Tennessee. He attends North Gwinnett High in Georgia.

James’s mother, Nichelle Mickens, said the visit regarded Tennessee’s hostesses.

“It’s not about the coaches,” she said. “It’s about some of the attendees of the university. It has to do with the hostesses on these visits. That’s as much as I know.”

Rick Evrard, a former N.C.A.A. investigator and a partner in Bond, Schoeneck & King, a law firm that specializes in helping colleges deal with N.C.A.A. issues, said he could not comment specifically on the Tennessee case. He did say, generally, it was not common for the N.C.A.A. to interview recruits interested in a particular university or to ask them about a particular program.

Kiffin’s numerous secondary N.C.A.A. violations could be a factor or might have prompted the investigation.

“Secondaries mean something to the N.C.A.A.,” Evrard said in a telephone interview. “It’s very telling if an institution continues to report secondaries particularly if they’re in the same category. If you keep doing the same thing over and over and keep reporting it, that would trigger the N.C.A.A.’s enforcement staff to possibly go in and look at some of that activity.”
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 03:15:47 PM »
Soemthing tells me they weren't talking about Hostesses Twinkies.  I imagine they were there, ready and willing.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 03:21:17 PM »
I saw some photos. I didn't know UT had hot coeds. These were smoking.

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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 03:27:16 PM »
On Thursday, the N.C.A.A. will visit the high school of JaWuan James, who has orally committed to Tennessee. He attends North Gwinnett High in Georgia.

I wonder if JaWuan James, who "orally committed" to Tennessee did so because one of the hostesses "orally committed" to him?
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 03:29:50 PM »
I saw some photos. I didn't know UT had hot coeds. These were smoking.



You prove it or just stop right there, sir.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 03:32:00 PM »
You prove it or just stop right there, sir.



What he said...get to posting...now!!
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 03:33:35 PM »
Just look for pictures of Bruce Arena and you'll come across some hot Vol chicks.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 03:41:14 PM »
Just look for pictures of Bruce Arena and you'll come across some hot Vol chicks.

You're right...he's smokin' hottt!

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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 03:45:46 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 03:46:52 PM »
I saw some photos. I didn't know UT had hot coeds. These were smoking.



Ban.
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 03:50:55 PM »
Soemthing tells me they weren't talking about Hostesses Twinkies.  I imagine they were there, ready and willing.
Cream filled?
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2009, 03:53:29 PM »
I read it on Tidesports.

Go there at your own risk.

http://forums.tidesports.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3631098265/m/6281021949/p/1

« Last Edit: December 09, 2009, 03:56:04 PM by Mr. Sensible »
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2009, 04:42:50 PM »
200 miles for a HS football game?
Damn Lane.

The Tigerettes wait till you're on campus....
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2009, 04:50:19 PM »
200 miles for a HS football game?
Damn Lane.

The Tigerettes wait till you're on campus....

No shit.  And when you get to campus, they'll pair up with you and next thing you know....wait, um, what?
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2009, 06:46:09 PM »
No shit.  And when you get to campus, they'll pair up with you and next thing you know....wait, um, what?

The new girls need to step it up....on campus of course.
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2009, 06:58:25 PM »
That's it, Token?  Those are the girls you found?

Jesus... Lane needs to work a little harder.
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2009, 07:10:47 PM »

Jesus... Lane needs to work a little harder.
Apparently they were getting the job done....
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2009, 07:14:49 PM »
Apparently they were getting the "job" done....
or what the NYT calls it..."Oral Commitment"
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2009, 07:33:45 PM »
Isn't Pete Thamel one of the jackasses that wrote a hit piece on us a couple of years back? I know Selena Roberts  did, and I'm pretty sure this piece of shit did as well.
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