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« on: December 04, 2009, 02:10:05 PM »
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Why Auburn is Better than Alabama
By Kurt Branch
December 04, 2009, 10:24AM

Much has been written about the 2009 Iron Bowl, who dominated the game, who should have won, etc. Both sides will argue their case on these points, and others like them, until the end of time. The truth of the matter is that most of these questions don't have a true answer, but these annual disagreements are what makes Auburn-Alabama a great rivalry.

For example, even when a team dominates for a good 95% of a game, the other 5% is enough for one side to forget the majority of the game and brag, even though just before the game, that side's predictions were a blowout in their favor, but I digress. In general, there is never any sort of resolution with any sort of questions, quandaries, or issues regarding any game played between Auburn and Alabama.

All that being said, I believe it is now, more than ever, apparent that some sort of agreement can be made when it comes to one issue regarding our Tigers and their Tide: if you call yourself a good person, being an Auburn fan is classier and just makes more sense than being an Alabama fan.

Yes, I know that Alabama has won 24 straight regular season football games. Yes, I know that the Tide has a chance to play in the National Championship Game for a second straight year. Yes, I know that Alabama has a storied history (although half of it is nearly false) and looks to have their program on track to add to their legacy. How could it be better to pull for the "lesser" team in the state? Read on.

I have played under at least twenty different coaches in various sports during my lifetime. I don't think that it should come to a surprise to anyone, but every single one of them cussed in some way at some point of a practice or game. Cussing is just a part of male athletics. It's just one of those things guys get used to early in life when it comes to sports.

On a side note, I always thought it was funny that in high school if your math teacher told you to get your a$$ together when it came to parallelograms, it probably wouldn't go very well with the PTO. But put a hat on that same math teacher's head and a whistle around his neck after 3:30, and he can say whatever he wants with no problem.

By now, you probably know where I'm going with this. If you guessed that I'm going to talk about Nick Saban's choice of words during radio and television appearances, all open to the public, then you are correct.

There is a certain sect of people who don't cuss, but will use every opportunity to quote someone who has cussed, as a free pass of sorts. I guess it's their way of getting out the angst that only cuss words can release without actually stooping low enough to use the actual words. I personally think that they have an underlying thought that cussing is "cool", and this is their free way to do it.

Is Nick Saban one of those? Not entirely, but I think he's close. Saban is one of those people who apologizes immediately after doing something that he knew was wrong and thinks that somehow it makes it all okay.

During and after the Iron Bowl, he used the term "blank-storm" where the blanked-out word starts with the same letter that "storm" does and represents something that doesn't smell very good. He said this term twice on live radio. Both times he immediately said "sorry for my language" following the S-bomb. Well that makes it alright coach.

During his post-game press conference, he used a term commonly used to refer to a donkey, immediately followed by "I shouldn't use that language". You're right coach, but you did.

His delivery just sounds forced, especially considering he apologizes just after. It seems like he just thinks it's cool to cuss, and if you're in your upper-50's, and still think it's cool to cuss, that's just sad.

I will reiterate the fact that I know cussing in sports is just going to happen. When men get riled up on the playing field, 99% of the time a word that isn't family-friendly will come out to help make a point. We all know that some words just help stress a point better than others, but 9-year-old kids listening to the radio during an Alabama football game don't need any point made to them. There's just no need for it, and it's just not classy.

I am not naive to the fact that Auburn coaches cuss on the field as well, but that's not my point. I'm talking about representing your team and school, and knowing when it's best to be spitting out expletives.

On Auburn's weekly show "Auburn Football: Every Day...", Chizik is never seen cussing, even in the heat of the game, or in the locker room following a big win. Yes, I realize this show is not live, and is edited for TV, but I don't think that matters. In fact, there have been two times that I remember where he was about to say "the d-word", obviously the most innocent of all cuss words, and would remember he was on camera, catch himself, and smoothly turn it in to a "darn".

Again, I realize that the state and direction of college football programs are not decided by which coach cusses the least, but it's very telling when one coach stresses to change a "d-word" to a "darn", and another guy drops any A-, S-, or F-bomb that he wants to on live TV and radio.

Something as small as this on the outside always pans out to something bigger on the inside. In this case, Saban's lack of class, care, and couth shows the world what kind of program he runs and what sort of values he is teaching his players.

Need more? Read on.

Before this year's Iron Bowl, CBS showed some footage of Coach Chizik speaking to his team. He said something along the lines of "Today's game is about a bunch of people you know, and a bunch of people you don't know. Remove all self today."

In last year's Iron Bowl, when the game was well in hand, CBS's sideline reporter informed the analysts, and the nation, that Saban was on the sideline yelling at his players to continue to score, and then asked his players "Don't you know how much I f---ing hate these guys?!!".

In short, Chizik asked his players to play selflessly and for the fans. Saban screamed at his players to pile on because HE hated Auburn.

Speaking of piling on points...I was reminded the other day that in 2001, when Saban was still at LSU, Tuberville's Tigers were up on Saban's Bengal Tigers 31-7 in the closing minutes of the game. The good Tigers were inside the 20-yard line with another chance to score. Tuberville elected to take a knee and save Saban and LSU any further embarrassment. Seven years later, Saban returns the favor by throwing deep with his team up by 30.

Classy? You tell me.

Before I make my last point, I want to say that I am not using this blog as a religious platform for religious debate. This is a place for Auburn talk and banter, and that's all it is. That being said, I'm pretty sure 99.9% of the people reading this claim themselves to be some sort of Christian. If not, I'd say the other 0.1% wouldn't have any problem with the Christian actions and values that I am about to mention.

An email has been circulating this week about four of Auburn's players getting baptized by team chaplain, Chet Williams, at First Baptist of Opelika a week or so ago. Those players were Antonio Coleman, Eltoro Freeman, Walter McFadden, and T'Sharvan Bell. The presence of Brother Chet has been well documented over the years from his days on Tuberville's staff, and proves that Auburn's football program is more worried about growing men, rather than football players. Tuberville and Chizik both know that if you have a man with a good head on his shoulders, then you have a player with a good head on his shoulders. Christian or not, I think we can all agree on that.

I am sure Alabama has some very fine, upstanding, Christian men on their team, and I'm not taking anything away from them. However, Alabama does not have a team chaplain. I'd be willing to bet that over 90% of the teams in the NCAA have some sort of spiritual leader on the coaching staff. Alabama does not. Again, this is something that looks small on the outside but opens up many more issues on the inside.

I know every team has players that we aren't proud to pull for, but your team is defined by its leader. If  you claim to be a good person, if you claim to be a Christian, how can you pull for a team lead by a man like Saban?

Most Alabama fans just like to ignore these facts, and only care about winning. Don't get me wrong, during a game I could say the same about myself. Winning is very, very important. That's sort of why we have athletics right? As I walk out of the stadium following an Auburn loss, I'm not thinking about our players being better men, but in the long run, that's all that matters, and will eventually lead to better days and championships.

I know that if a program is built on solid values, class, and respect that many years of greatness will follow. I know that if you don't care enough to bite your tongue in public, look like you want to punch someone just because they asked you a question, and demand that your players pile up the score to satisfy your hatred, then the house of cards will soon begin to fall.

I'll end this with a question. If you are a recruit's father and want your son to go to a good school with a good coaching staff that is worried about your son becoming a better man and then a better football player. Who would you choose?
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Re: Why Auburn Is Better Than Alabama: AL.com blog
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 03:41:27 PM »
Bravo, Bravo  :clap:
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2009, 05:01:49 PM »
Yes, do tell me how the 7-5 team that isn't playing this week is better than the 12-0 team that is.  Pathetic mutts, I'm embarrassed for you.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 05:17:06 PM »
Yes, do tell me how the 7-5 team that isn't playing this week is better than the 12-0 team that is.  Pathetic mutts, I'm embarrassed for you.

Oh my Lord, please tell me you didn't actually read the article.

If you did, well, I just don't know what to say. 
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Re: Why Auburn Is Better Than Alabama: AL.com blog
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2009, 05:24:21 PM »
Yes, do tell me how the 7-5 team that isn't playing this week is better than the 12-0 team that is.  Pathetic mutts, I'm embarrassed for you.

You know what helps embarrassment?  Going the fuck away.
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Now I may be an idiot, but there is one thing I am not, sir, and that, sir, is an idiot.

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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2009, 05:27:30 PM »
You know what helps embarrassment?  Going the phuk away.

If I did then who would be embarrassed for you?  You guys sure as hell won't pick up the slack.  Trust me, you need me.  I am your anchor to reality.  Without me all of you would start thinking you have worth.  If I left for a year I'd come back and everyone would think they are Alabama.  Trust me, mutts, I'm hanging on to reality for each and everyone of you.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2009, 05:28:03 PM by Vagisil »
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2009, 05:31:56 PM »
I say that "Vagisil" remains your permanant name.  Anyone else second, third....?????
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2009, 05:46:31 PM »
I say that "Vagisil" remains your permanant name.  Anyone else second, third....?????

I say "Typical Bammer"...Vagisil doesn't really capture the true essence.  "Typical Bammer" implies the severe case of vaginitis, but also covers so many more traits.
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"To me Auburn is not in Auburn, Alabama. Auburn is the people who care about Auburn, the people who love Auburn. Wherever they are, that’s Auburn, Auburn is in your heart. You play for it."

- Reggie Torbor

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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2009, 05:57:03 PM »
I say "Typical Bammer"...Vagisil doesn't really capture the true essence.  "Typical Bammer" implies the severe case of vaginitis, but also covers so many more traits.

I see a poll in our future....
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Re: Why Auburn Is Better Than Alabama: AL.com blog
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2009, 05:59:48 PM »
Oh my Lord, please tell me you didn't actually read the article.

If you did, well, I just don't know what to say. 
Come on, ja. You know bammers don't read.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2009, 06:02:34 PM »
Come on, ja. You know bammers don't read.
That wasn't like but maybe half a picture's worth of words.
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Re: Why Auburn Is Better Than Alabama: AL.com blog
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2009, 09:31:14 AM »
Well the server has since lost this article. It shows up on search but doesn't display the article.
Had to go here:
http://www.warblogle.com/2009/12/04/football/alabama-review/

Part of it was censored because Bamers can't read.

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I originally posted this on al.com's Tigers Corner, but after hours of replying to comments from Bammers that only proved my points even more, I decided that I couldn't take it anymore and took it down. So now only you, the amazing WarBlogle.com readers, get to enjoy it. Let me know what you think.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2009, 09:43:28 AM by bottomfeeder »
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2009, 11:01:41 AM »
Ok.  I finally took the time to read this blog. 

"I know every team has players that we aren't proud to pull for, but your team is defined by its leader. If  you claim to be a good person, if you claim to be a Christian, how can you pull for a team lead by a man like Saban?"

This is ridiculous.  So ridiculous, that I'm shocked to see this article on this website. 
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2009, 11:08:51 AM »
Ok.  I finally took the time to read this blog. 

"I know every team has players that we aren't proud to pull for, but your team is defined by its leader. If  you claim to be a good person, if you claim to be a Christian, how can you pull for a team lead by a man like Saban?"

This is ridiculous.  So ridiculous, that I'm shocked to see this article on this website. 

*shrug*

It's a little..... much.  I'll give you that.

I agree with the overall statement of the argument though.  Nick Saban is the devil. 
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2009, 11:44:29 AM »
I originally posted this on al.com's Tigers Corner, but after hours of replying to comments from Bammers that only proved my points even more, I decided that I couldn't take it anymore and took it down.
Just as Vagisil did in this thread.
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2009, 11:47:36 AM »
*shrug*

It's a little..... much.  I'll give you that.

I agree with the overall statement of the argument though.  Nick Saban is the devil. 


I won't argue religion with anyone, and I won't down anyone for their beliefs, but the entire article is a "Bama = hell, Auburn = heaven" piece.  I realize it's a blog, but it's a ridiculous argument.  It's great that Auburn has a team Chaplain.  It's great that Auburn had four players baptized.  But to say that Auburn is better than Alabama based on that alone is a horrible argument.  I know, I know.  More variables are mentioned by the blogger, but he isn't fooling anyone.  This entire piece is based on the Christian beliefs.  

I mean, I click on one thread proclaiming Auburn as the Christians of college football.  The second thread I read is blaspheming the Lord's prayer, and the third is about renaming a member, "twatwaffle".  I'm not sure if I should laugh or pick up a Bible.  
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Re: Why Auburn Is Better Than Alabama: AL.com blog
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2009, 11:49:31 AM »
Hey, none of us wrote it.

I just posted it for discussion.
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2009, 01:27:29 PM »
Saban is Catholic (like me) I'm not sticking up for the guy but I grew up in a very very traditional Catholic house; my parents very devout Catholics never shared
thier faith much they just pray all the time... religion could be a private matter for him... that being said I hope he goes to notre dame
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2009, 01:39:59 PM »
 I'm not sure if I should laugh or pick up a Bible.  


You should laugh.  Twatwaffle is fucking funny.


Look, it's a blog.  There's worse out there. 
However, I do believe Saban is Beelzebub.
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