Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection

[Kaos]

This makes sense. Letting your hatred of someone or something blind you in such a way that you impulsively jump to a completely illogical and irrational finger-pointing.
Link?

You must have been referring to my half-sarcastic "That damn Jay Jacobs." Guess what? I'm not the guy's biggest fan either. But I'm not so stubborn and myopic as to not give credit where credit is due. Even with all of those reasons that you claim Jay Jacobs had nothing to do with, guess who brokered the deal? Guess who convinced them that those reasons were valid? I'm sorry it doesn't support your mantra, but it was Jay Jacobs.
I can guarantee we sell out the tickets as well. We travel well. No one's following you or Greasey's boycott attempts. This season turned out to be a beacon of hope for those that aren't dogmatically sticking to their guns that it would be an epic disaster.
Just plain wrong. Flat out ignoring the sentence that Sani highlighted. Flat out shutting off any common sense that would tell you that the Athletic Director was directly involved in selling Auburn to the Outback Bowl. Par for the course.

Par is 71. 

I shot a 77.  Slightly over par. 

The sentence Sani highlighted was backed up by NOTHING in the article.  Nothing.  It was a throwaway sentence -- and was actually a question.  As in "I have no idea."   So I guess having no idea is tantamount to proof that something did, in fact, exist when nothing to support that contention is offered?  Ree-dick-you-lus.

[AUChizad]

Chizad, I agree with you on most of the above except the part where the rain is Obama's fault. I don't know how you can't see this. It rained all fucking day today. And its his fault. What part of that don't you understand? Sheesh.  

Note that there was no political slant to that portion of my rebuttal. I understood the sarcasm.

Just noting I can see where Kaos would feel that way, since he applies similar logic (or lack thereof) to Chizik, or as in this case Jacobs.

Par is 71.  

I shot a 77.  Slightly over par.  

The sentence Sani highlighted was backed up by NOTHING in the article.  Nothing.  It was a throwaway sentence -- and was actually a question.  As in "I have no idea."   So I guess having no idea is tantamount to proof that something did, in fact, exist when nothing to support that contention is offered?  Ree-dick-you-lus.

You've reached too far. You lost me.

[Kaos]

You lost me.

I left breadcrumbs.  I guess Jacobs ate them.

[jadennis]

Fact is we'll never know and most of us will decide in our heads what role he played according to what we already think of him. 

Jacobs could have been in his office playing the Legend of Zelda on his Wii, or booking tickets to Nashville, or watching a Friends re-run, when he got a call from the Outback people in Tampa. 

Or he could be the one that provided the Tampa folks with Auburn alumni numbers in the Tampa area.  He could have given Auburn's historical numbers for traveling to bowl games. 

If anyone ate the bread crumbs it was Tracy Rocker.

[eagleair89]

If anyone ate the bread crumbs it was Tracy Rocker.

or Ben Thomas.....those two men together could wipe out an entire bread factory.

WAR EAGLE

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

I think it's safe to say that Jacobs would of had to have been involved to some degree.  I also believe that his duties around Auburn are way more broad than the football team, and while you might hate the guy for what you may deem as poor performance, and just overall asshatery, there is NOTHING bad about what he did helping Auburn into the Outback Bowl. (one of my finest run-on sentences to date!)

I don't think Auburn making the Outback is the fulcrum necessary to swing this debate one way or the other.  However, I DO give credit where credit is due...and it's due here.

Congrats to Jacobs and the Auburn Atlhletic Program for earning this bowl.  Congrats to the football team for fighting hard enough to even make it possible, and that includes Gene Chizik and his staff.

As fans, let's sit back and enjoy the fact that we're in it, and laugh at the Bulldogs that now have to go to fucking Shreveport...

[ibelonginprison]

JJ is wiping the spooge from his chin.  He'll give a press conference later.




And I believe the term you were looking for was "no-talent-ass-clown"

[GH2001]

Note that there was no political slant to that portion of my rebuttal. I understood the sarcasm.

Just noting I can see where Kaos would feel that way, since he applies similar logic (or lack thereof) to Chizik, or as in this case Jacobs.You've reached too far. You lost me.

No really - it rained and he was all behind it. Well, him and Jay Jacobs. Those 2 fuckwads. Tonight, when I can't sleep - they will be the first two blamed. 

[The Prowler]

If what I hear is true.....That's only a rumor, though, and has no verification yet. 

You could've just saved yourself the trouble of sounding like a dumbass, but that wouldn't be Kaos' shitacular MO.

[Snaggletiger]

How in the wide world of sports could Auburn getting a bid to the Outback (Probably a much better bowl than it deserved) be the subject of so much shit between Auburn fans?

[AUsweetheart]

I have no love lost for JJ either. In fact, I was pretty sure I was going to fail out of law school between the firing (retiring, whatever)of Tubs and the hiring of Chizik...and I was going to blame him.
But I am not blind to reason. And if he's mostly responsible for our bid, I don't care if he offered to blow the committee...he did something right. I can give him that while still not letting anyone piss on him if he was on fire.

However, I DO give credit where credit is due...and it's due here.

Congrats to Jacobs and the Auburn Atlhletic Program for earning this bowl.  Congrats to the football team for fighting hard enough to even make it possible, and that includes Gene Chizik and his staff.

As fans, let's sit back and enjoy the fact that we're in it, and laugh at the Bulldogs that now have to go to fucking Shreveport...

Eggzactly.

[Iwannaplay]

Bowl games are all about money.  The fans of Auburn University are more responsible for you guys getting the bid to the Outback bowl than JJ.  The Outback Bowl saw a team that did not go to a bowl game last year and that has a huge, hungry fan base that will buy tickets to this game.  It's all about money.  As far as JJ saying that the athletic department saying that they will buy all of their alloted tickets, that should be a non-issue really because of the size of the school, the size of the almuni base, and the size of the sidewalk alumni base that are Auburn fans.  Mid-major programs like FAU and MTSU do that type of thing to get bowl games to offer them a bid.  All of the alloted tickets should be sold if Auburn fans do the right thing btw and buy the tickets through the Auburn ticket office and not the bowl game office, which is the only way that school's get the full bowl payout if all of the alloted tickets are sold.  It's nothing the administration probably did, but what the history of what Auburn fans will do to go watch their team play, especially after coming off a season without a bowl game.

[RWS]

How in the wide world of sports could Auburn getting a bid to the Outback (Probably a much better bowl than it deserved) be the subject of so much shit between Auburn fans?

Especially when a team with the same record that beat AU and just beat a top 10 Georgia Tech team not even a week ago got a lesser bowl bid. Thats got to chap UGA fans asses.

[Kaos]

I think it's safe to say that Jacobs would of had to have been involved to some degree.  

On what do you base this safety? 

I also believe that his duties around Auburn are way more broad than the football team, and while you might hate the guy for what you may deem as poor performance, and just overall asshatery, there is NOTHING bad about what he did helping Auburn into the Outback Bowl. (one of my finest run-on sentences to date!)

What exactly did he do?  Do you know?  Isn't there still a  fuck-a-palooza in the AU athletic department in the sports that matter?  Men's basketball.... baseball...

I don't think Auburn making the Outback is the fulcrum necessary to swing this debate one way or the other.  However, I DO give credit where credit is due...and it's due here.

On what do you base this?  What evidence do you have that Jacobs was involved?  Can you say for certain he did anything beyond sitting at his desk with his head stuck between his legs while searching for dingleberries? 

Congrats to Jacobs and the Auburn Atlhletic Program for earning this bowl.  Congrats to the football team for fighting hard enough to even make it possible, and that includes Gene Chizik and his staff.

I can live with that other than the congrats to Jacobs part.  What exactly was his role?  Can you say?

As fans, let's sit back and enjoy the fact that we're in it, and laugh at the Bulldogs that now have to go to phuking Shreveport...

Agreed there. 

[Kaos]

How in the wide world of sports could Auburn getting a bid to the Outback (Probably a much better bowl than it deserved) be the subject of so much poop between Auburn fans?

Battle lines were drawn in December 2008. 

[Kaos]

Bowl games are all about money.  The fans of Auburn University are more responsible for you guys getting the bid to the Outback bowl than JJ.  The Outback Bowl saw a team that did not go to a bowl game last year and that has a huge, hungry fan base that will buy tickets to this game.  It's all about money.  As far as JJ saying that the athletic department saying that they will buy all of their alloted tickets, that should be a non-issue really because of the size of the school, the size of the almuni base, and the size of the sidewalk alumni base that are Auburn fans.  Mid-major programs like FAU and MTSU do that type of thing to get bowl games to offer them a bid.  All of the alloted tickets should be sold if Auburn fans do the right thing btw and buy the tickets through the Auburn ticket office and not the bowl game office, which is the only way that school's get the full bowl payout if all of the alloted tickets are sold.  It's nothing the administration probably did, but what the history of what Auburn fans will do to go watch their team play, especially after coming off a season without a bowl game.

Please don't use logical analysis or pay attention to what bowl officials actually said. 

You better recognize!  Jay Jacobs is the master of negotiation.

[Tiger Wench]

I have no love lost for JJ either. In fact, I was pretty sure I was going to fail out of law school between the firing (retiring, whatever)of Tubs and the hiring of Chizik...and I was going to blame him.
But I am not blind to reason. And if he's mostly responsible for our bid, I don't care if he offered to blow the committee...he did something right. I can give him that while still not letting anyone piss on him if he was on fire.

Blind pig/acorn theory.  I agree.

[boartitz]

Goose and gander must learn how to be equal.

Gander might not want it up the ass.

[AUChizad]

Yes.  Those wins were the direct result of the magnificent leadership of Jay Jacobs. 

Does the phrase "in spite of" have any meaning?

From what Phillip Marshall wrote -- and was referenced here -- the bowl officials made an independent decision based on a number of factors -- none of which involved Jacobs in any way, shape or form.

Bump.

[Kaos]

Bump.

Obsession.  Wow. 

Your bump, however, only illustrates my collective correctness.  I appreciate that.  Gracias.

What Phil wrote did show an independent decision based on a variety of factors.  And yep, Auburn can sometimes succeed in spite of Jacobs.  Been illustrated in countless ways. 

Thanks again, pal.