Chizik, Kiffin and Mullen

Kaos · « **on:** November 30, 2009, 06:31:33 PM »

Of the three? I'd rank Chizik last based on first-year performance even though he did beat both.

Tennessee got appreciably better as the season wore on. Beat one of their two biggest rivals soundly. Pushed another to the absolute bullshit brink.

Mississippi State got appreciably better as the season wore on. The Bulldogs were a stupid coaching decision from wrecking LSU. Whipped the dogshit out of Ole Miss in a rivalry game.

Both those guys get a solid B for their overall body of work.

Chizik? Right about where he was expected to be. Got a quality win over a mediocre West Virginia team. Came up zeroes (moral victories don't count) against Auburn's two biggest rivals. Got pantsed by Arkansas. At no point could you really say the team was improving week to week. You'd think it was and then it would shit the bed (kentucky).

About the best you can give him is a C.

The Prowler · « **Reply #1 on:** November 30, 2009, 06:36:43 PM »

I give him a B+ for what he had to work with.

AUChizad · « **Reply #2 on:** November 30, 2009, 06:48:07 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on November 30, 2009, 06:31:33 PM

The Bulldogs were a stupid coaching decision from wrecking LSU.

And this is a feather in Mullen's cap as why he's a better coach than Chizik?

Ok...

ibelonginprison · « **Reply #3 on:** November 30, 2009, 06:48:11 PM »

I'd give them all a B-. Mullen and Chizel were playing with players recruited for a different scheme than how they ran their teams. Tennessee had "decent players," but they just didn't mesh well. It didn't work out for Kiffen.

We were inconsistent, but showed moments of greatness. Somewhere I think there is a balance of players and coaching.

Kiffen ran his mouth but his players never backed him up on it with their performance. His daddy saved his ass with some sick defensive coaching IMO.

Mullen... he just never had any talent to work with. I'll be interested to see what he recruits and what he does with it. Recruiting for MSU has to just be plain tough. Who the hell wants to go to Starkville. 0_o

Chizel did alright. Like you said, he beat both Mullen and Kiffen. AU had a strong showing against UA, but just got tired. We played well against UT, UA had a much worse time with UT than we did. Inconsistency is where Chizel's score should just drop.

chinook · « **Reply #4 on:** November 30, 2009, 06:49:20 PM »

in kindergarten, i had the 64 crayola crayon set, a metal ruler and left handed scissors. a friend of mine had the 8 crayola crayon set...perhaps missing a color..., a wooden ruler with notches along the sides and a pair of left handed scissors (he was a righty).

he had a lot less to work with but always got an A in art.

The Prowler · « **Reply #5 on:** November 30, 2009, 06:52:05 PM »

Quote from: chinook on November 30, 2009, 06:49:20 PM

in kindergarten, i had the 64 crayola crayon set, a metal ruler and left handed scissors. a friend of mine had the 8 crayola crayon set...perhaps missing a color..., a wooden ruler with notches along the sides and a pair of left handed scissors (he was a righty).

he had a lot less to work with but always got an A in art.

Are you still pissed that I would always get As in art class? I couldn't help it that you sat at your desk eating glue while everyone else worked on their projects.

boartitz · « **Reply #6 on:** November 30, 2009, 06:55:06 PM »

I still get out of line.

AUsweetheart · « **Reply #7 on:** November 30, 2009, 08:40:49 PM »

Just out of curiosity...what grade would you have given Saban his first year at uat?

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #8 on:** November 30, 2009, 09:45:12 PM »

Chizik beat the hell out of Kiffin and Mullen. I don't care when it happened. Neither Kiffin or Mullen played Georgia on the road and an 11-0 Bama team to close out the season.

Chizik

Kiffin

Mullen

boartitz · « **Reply #9 on:** November 30, 2009, 10:26:14 PM »

Quote from: AUsweetheart on November 30, 2009, 08:40:49 PM

Just out of curiosity...what grade would you have given Saban his first year at uat?

Or Petrino his first year? D, C-?

Greaseyweasel · « **Reply #10 on:** November 30, 2009, 10:26:42 PM »

Mullen, one hell of a fine showing with nothing to work with.

Kiffy, actually got better as the year wore on.

chizik, came out of the chute crying that he had no talent, then congratualetd himself on his wins and blamed his losses on the same no talent players that got him his win. Adored by prowler and other faggots everywhere.

Greaseyweasel · « **Reply #11 on:** November 30, 2009, 10:28:23 PM »

Quote from: boartitz on November 30, 2009, 10:26:14 PM

Or Petrino his first year? D, C-?

Petrino followed _______, he did a fine job, of course he didn't have the talent to squander like coach _____ did before him. He might actually make them a legit challenger.

Kaos · « **Reply #12 on:** November 30, 2009, 10:40:44 PM »

Quote from: AUsweetheart on November 30, 2009, 08:40:49 PM

Just out of curiosity...what grade would you have given Saban his first year at uat?

Low B or a C.

But you could feel it starting to build.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 30, 2009, 10:59:13 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on November 30, 2009, 06:31:33 PM

Tennessee got appreciably better as the season wore on. Beat one of their two biggest rivals soundly. Pushed another to the absolute bullshit brink.

Sounds like the Iron Bowl. Unless I'm missing what you mean by the highlighted portion.

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Mississippi State got appreciably better as the season wore on. The Bulldogs were a stupid coaching decision from wrecking LSU. Whipped the dogshit out of Ole Miss in a rivalry game.

Auburn whipped the dogshit out of that team as well.

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Both those guys get a solid B for their overall body of work.

Then you're just being selective.....admit it.

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Chizik? Right about where he was expected to be. Got a quality win over a mediocre West Virginia team. Came up zeroes (moral victories don't count) against Auburn's two biggest rivals. Got pantsed by Arkansas. At no point could you really say the team was improving week to week. You'd think it was and then it would shit the bed (kentucky).

About the best you can give him is a C.

What grade would you honestly give Tuberville at the end of last year?

AUsweetheart · « **Reply #14 on:** November 30, 2009, 11:04:33 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on November 30, 2009, 10:40:44 PM

Low B or a C.

But you could feel it starting to build.

A low B? After starting 6-2 then dropping the next FOUR? Including the loss to La Monroe?
Boolsheet.

There is also an argument to be made that it's starting to build at Auburn, too, you know.

boartitz · « **Reply #15 on:** November 30, 2009, 11:09:57 PM »

Quote from: Greaseyweasel on November 30, 2009, 10:28:23 PM

Petrino followed _______, he did a fine job, of course he didn't have the talent to squander like coach _____ did before him. He might actually make them a legit challenger.

Naw
We're talking report cards here.
5-7 first year, 7-5 second year.
Bobby Petrino is a worldbeater. Eh?

AUChizad · « **Reply #16 on:** November 30, 2009, 11:24:27 PM »

Quote from: AUsweetheart on November 30, 2009, 11:04:33 PM

A low B? After starting 6-2 then dropping the next FOUR? Including the loss to La Monroe?
Boolsheet.

There is also an argument to be made that it's starting to build at Auburn, too, you know.

He made up his mind 11 months ago. Everything he posts is working backwards from there to support what is set in stone in his mind.

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #17 on:** December 01, 2009, 12:03:36 AM »

Quote from: Kaos on November 30, 2009, 06:31:33 PM

Of the three? I'd rank Chizik last based on first-year performance even though he did beat both.

Tennessee got appreciably better as the season wore on. Beat one of their two biggest rivals soundly. Pushed another to the absolute bullshit brink.

Mississippi State got appreciably better as the season wore on. The Bulldogs were a stupid coaching decision from wrecking LSU. Whipped the dogshit out of Ole Miss in a rivalry game.

Both those guys get a solid B for their overall body of work.

Chizik? Right about where he was expected to be. Got a quality win over a mediocre West Virginia team. Came up zeroes (moral victories don't count) against Auburn's two biggest rivals. Got pantsed by Arkansas. At no point could you really say the team was improving week to week. You'd think it was and then it would shit the bed (kentucky).

About the best you can give him is a C.

Are you referring to the same West Virginia team that took Cincinnati to the brink, and just finished an upset of then #8 Pittsburgh? That West Virginia?

I don't see how in the world you can put Mullen ahead of Chizik in any way, form or fashion. They played over their heads and won their rivalry game. That is it.

As much as it pains me to say it, I do agree on Kiffin though. They started slow, but seemed to get better as the season wore on.

Greaseyweasel · « **Reply #18 on:** December 01, 2009, 06:08:38 AM »

Quote from: boartitz on November 30, 2009, 11:09:57 PM

Naw
We're talking report cards here.
5-7 first year, 7-5 second year.
Bobby Petrino is a worldbeater. Eh?

Never said he was a world beater. Arky does not get those. I said he is doing better. Go back and actually read what I posted instead of reading into it. I'm a very straight up, straight to the point kind of guy.

Kaos · « **Reply #19 on:** December 01, 2009, 08:16:57 AM »

Quote from: AUChizad on November 30, 2009, 11:24:27 PM

He made up his mind 11 months ago. Everything he posts is working backwards from there to support what is set in stone in his mind.

If that were true, he'd get whatever is below an F.

You bore me.