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Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« on: October 26, 2009, 08:19:03 AM »
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20091026/SPORTS04/910260317/1009

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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin said he chose not to run another play before the Volunteers attempted a potential game-winning field goal against Alabama in part because of the penalty disparity between the two teams.

Terrence Cody blocked a low kick by Daniel Lincoln on a 44-yard field goal attempt on the last play of the game to preserve the Crimson Tide's 12-10 win over the Vols on Saturday. The narrow win dropped Alabama (8-0, 5-0 Southeastern Conference) from the top spot in The Associated Press poll to No. 2.

Kiffin began milking the clock with about 35 seconds left, and Jonathan Crompton grounded the ball with 4 seconds to set up the attempt.

"You run another play and you throw an interception or they throw another flag on us -- I wasn't going to let the refs lose the game for us there and some magical flag appear," Kiffin said Sunday.

Tennessee (3-4, 1-3), which entered the game as one of the least-penalized teams in the nation, was flagged eight times for 68 yards, while Alabama was charged with just one 10-yard penalty.

Kiffin said he was disappointed not only with the difference in calls but also with a possible unsportsmanlike penalty that wasn't called.

After Cody blocked the field goal attempt, he removed and threw his helmet and ran across the field in celebration as time expired.

"If a play's still going, you can't take your helmet off," Kiffin said. "A guy throws his helmet as the ball's still live. He throws his helmet and then two of their guys go and recover the ball. It's a 15-yard penalty, and you kick again."

Kiffin said he discussed the play with SEC commissioner Mike Slive and had left phone messages for SEC coordinator of officiating Rogers Redding that hadn't been returned.

He also knows to expect a reprimand from the SEC for criticizing officials as Arkansas Bobby Petrino was for criticizing officiating in his team's loss to Florida on Oct. 17.

"I'm sure we'll get one of those letters that really means nothing as Bobby got last week, but Florida and Alabama live on," Kiffin said.

The Vols returned to practice on Sunday afternoon rather than Monday as they have done all season in an effort to put the game behind them more quickly.

Kiffin said he'd considered changing the team's practice schedule even before the Alabama loss to also give players more time on Monday for studying and planned on making the change permanent.

The Vols were upbeat during practice, and Kiffin said he thought they had recognized how much they had improved from the blowouts they suffered to the Crimson Tide in 2007 and 2008.

"For the guys that have been there, they've had two years of just getting run up and down the field by that team and getting dominated. So they see the difference. They see where they're going and it's a powerful message," he said.

I would like to know which plays he was talking about. I think alot of their penalties were for false start, in which you could see them committing the foul. Even on replay it was pretty clear a lineman had moved out of his stance. I guess Kiffin missed the no-call on his CB for PI against Julio in the end zone. If that wasn't PI, I don't know what is. UT committed 7 penalties for 47 yards in a thrashing against UGA at home.  They committed 8 penalties for 68 yards against Alabama on the road after a bye week. Thats pretty much a PI call difference from the UGA game.

The illegal block penalty in the 3rd quarter? That was fairly obvious. 15 yards.

Delay of game in the 3rd? How do you argue that?

False start in the beginning of the 4th? They replayed it, and it was right.

Holding in the 4th? He took Dareus and pulled him to the ground by his jersey, then held him on the ground with his hands still grabbing his jersey.

Roughing the kicker in the 4th? Meh, it might have been able to go both ways. Personally I think they have been a little too quick to throw a flag on those, but I thought it was consistant with what they have been flagging teams for. It certainly wasn't clearly a bad call, but not a great call. We fumbled the very next play so I don't see how that helped us.

False start on the last drive? The fucking center picked the ball up off the ground and had it halfway to the QB's hands and then put the ball back down. Thats a false start.

And as far as the Cody penalty? We recovered the blocked field goal. It still would have been our ball. In that instance, it is a live ball penalty treated as a dead ball foul. It doesn't matter in what sequence it happened. If there was any time left on the clock, it would have been Alabama ball and our offense would have a 15 yard penalty. This was even confirmed by the SEC spokesman. The ball crossed the neutral zone, and could not be advanced by UT anyway. Had they touched it, it would have been a dead ball at the spot of the touch. The ball was essentially ours the second it hit the turf.

I'm also surprised that he wasn't bitching about the headsets again. According to him, that was an Alabama conspiracy as well and it has happened many other times to other teams in Tuscaloosa. I cannot recall one time ever that they have had to do that, because when the game started I was like....wtf? Our OC is in the press box. Their DC is on the field. How does that give us an advantage when we can't use headsets?

Bottom line? Your team played pretty damn hard. They came up a little short. I know its difficult to do, but damn, accept it and move on. You're not impressing anybody but maybe a few of your fans and some AU fans by creating conspiracy theories.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2009, 08:47:06 AM by RWS »
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2009, 09:00:31 AM »
The way Kiffin is delivering the message might be a little awkward, but I don't think you'll find much support for your side of this.  Regardless of penalties, Bama looked like dogshit and should have lost that game.  Period.  However, you didn't.... congrats.

I thought the same thing on the helmet being ripped off while time was still on the clock and the play was technically still happening.  Oh well...it's history.
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2009, 09:07:49 AM »
The way Kiffin is delivering the message might be a little awkward, but I don't think you'll find much support for your side of this.  Regardless of penalties, Bama looked like dogshit and should have lost that game.  Period.  However, you didn't.... congrats.

I thought the same thing on the helmet being ripped off while time was still on the clock and the play was technically still happening.  Oh well...it's history.
The clock was at 0:00 when the helmet came off. I'll see if I can catch the screen grab that somebody posted showing the clock at 0:00 as Cody grabs his helmet to take it off.


Certainly about to come off, but hadn't come off of his head at that point. For that matter, two UT players were 5 yards away from the ball.....closer than any of our players. They didn't even make an attempt at the ball. I think everybody knew/thought it was over at that point, and it was. The ball crossed the neutral zone. UT couldn't advance it, they could only down it. It was our ball regardless. You will see no argument from me as far as how we played. It was better than last week against a better defense, but it still looked like shit. It's a win.....I'll take it. There weren't any questionable calls in the game really, except maybe the roughing the kicker (which we fumbled the next play), and the UT CB not being called for PI in the end zone. Other than those two calls, I don't see anything that could really be questioned.
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2009, 09:16:29 AM »
The clock was at 0:00 when the helmet came off. I'll see if I can catch the screen grab that somebody posted showing the clock at 0:00 as Cody grabs his helmet to take it off.

You think if the clock would have hit 0:00 before the FG went through the uprights the 3 points wouldn't have been added?

Either way, this is a dumb fucking arguement...but your shit doesn't make any sense...
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2009, 09:22:47 AM »
You think if the clock would have hit 0:00 before the FG went through the uprights the 3 points wouldn't have been added?

Either way, this is a dumb fucking arguement...but your shit doesn't make any sense...
Of course not, you're talking apples and oranges. A field goal on its way in the air is not the same as a blocked field goal that has passed the line of scrimmage.
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2009, 09:26:54 AM »
Of course not, you're talking apples and oranges. A field goal on its way in the air is not the same as a blocked field goal that has passed the line of scrimmage.

My point is that the play was still going. The clock doesn'tmean shit once the play starts and you know it...

Your arguement here is dumb. At least argue something that has merit...

Anyway, like Ham said, if it was a dead ball penalty, it would still have been UA's ball with a 15 yard penalty against UA. And no, not 1st and 25 I don't think. Still first and 10 but just 15 yards back.

Why the fuck am I argueing about this shit? It doesn't matter and I don't give a fuck one way or another...I just hate dumb fucking comments...
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2009, 09:33:35 AM »
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20091026/SPORTS04/910260317/1009
I would like to know which plays he was talking about. I think alot of their penalties were for false start, in which you could see them committing the foul. Even on replay it was pretty clear a lineman had moved out of his stance. I guess Kiffin missed the no-call on his CB for PI against Julio in the end zone. If that wasn't PI, I don't know what is. UT committed 7 penalties for 47 yards in a thrashing against UGA at home.  They committed 8 penalties for 68 yards against Alabama on the road after a bye week. Thats pretty much a PI call difference from the UGA game.

The illegal block penalty in the 3rd quarter? That was fairly obvious. 15 yards.

Delay of game in the 3rd? How do you argue that?

False start in the beginning of the 4th? They replayed it, and it was right.

Holding in the 4th? He took Dareus and pulled him to the ground by his jersey, then held him on the ground with his hands still grabbing his jersey.

Roughing the kicker in the 4th? Meh, it might have been able to go both ways. Personally I think they have been a little too quick to throw a flag on those, but I thought it was consistant with what they have been flagging teams for. It certainly wasn't clearly a bad call, but not a great call. We fumbled the very next play so I don't see how that helped us.

False start on the last drive? The phuking center picked the ball up off the ground and had it halfway to the QB's hands and then put the ball back down. Thats a false start.

And as far as the Cody penalty? We recovered the blocked field goal. It still would have been our ball. In that instance, it is a live ball penalty treated as a dead ball foul. It doesn't matter in what sequence it happened. If there was any time left on the clock, it would have been Alabama ball and our offense would have a 15 yard penalty. This was even confirmed by the SEC spokesman. The ball crossed the neutral zone, and could not be advanced by UT anyway. Had they touched it, it would have been a dead ball at the spot of the touch. The ball was essentially ours the second it hit the turf.

I'm also surprised that he wasn't bitching about the headsets again. According to him, that was an Alabama conspiracy as well and it has happened many other times to other teams in Tuscaloosa. I cannot recall one time ever that they have had to do that, because when the game started I was like....wtf? Our OC is in the press box. Their DC is on the field. How does that give us an advantage when we can't use headsets?

Bottom line? Your team played pretty damn hard. They came up a little short. I know its difficult to do, but damn, accept it and move on. You're not impressing anybody but maybe a few of your fans and some AU fans by creating conspiracy theories.

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I think we know who the little bitch is. 
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2009, 10:20:31 AM »
Of course not, you're talking apples and oranges. A field goal on its way in the air is not the same as a blocked field goal that has passed the line of scrimmage.
FL had a fg count against us with 0 on the playclock that hadn't even been snapped yet. There is still time on the clock when it reaches 0. Football clocks need to be like basketball clocks with the fractions of a second shown. It ain't over until it reads 0:0.
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2009, 11:45:30 AM »
You think if the clock would have hit 0:00 before the FG went through the uprights the 3 points wouldn't have been added?

Either way, this is a dumb phuking arguement...but your poop doesn't make any sense...

The penalty is a deadball foul. Since Alabama recovered the ball they would have had the ball with a 15 yard penalty. Sadly it was the correct call. Have a great day.
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2009, 11:56:25 AM »
The penalty is a deadball foul. Since Alabama recovered the ball they would have had the ball with a 15 yard penalty. Sadly it was the correct call. Have a great day.

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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2009, 12:03:22 PM »
The penalty is a deadball foul. Since Alabama recovered the ball they would have had the ball with a 15 yard penalty. Sadly it was the correct call. Have a great day.
According to the SEC spokesman:

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The foul for taking helmet off is a live ball foul treated as a dead-ball foul. That is, if it happens on a play where time does not expire then the penalty is enforced on the following play. However since the clock ran out on that play, then there is no next play, so there is no penalty to mark off."
The instant that ball hit the turf, possession had changed to Alabama. Had it landed behind the LOS and Cody did that, it would have been a re-kick. 
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2009, 12:18:56 PM »
According to the SEC spokesman:
The instant that ball hit the turf, possession had changed to Alabama. Had it landed behind the LOS and Cody did that, it would have been a re-kick. 

This is what I said earlier... You made my point again. I need you to follow me around on my sales calls to help support what I am saying...
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2009, 12:22:15 PM »
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2009, 12:29:09 PM »
Yeah, because he really lost his shit.  Hilarious.

  :taunt:

That was a relatively mild and normal reaction to that play, unlike Ricky's retarded rant (which is representative of 99.487% of Alabama's redneck dumbass fanbase). 

Can't say I wouldn't have reacted in the same way if I'd seen it and not even as a Tennessee fan, just somebody who hates you arrogant assholes. 
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2009, 12:39:41 PM »
Yeah, because he really lost his shit.  Hilarious.

  :taunt:

That was a relatively mild and normal reaction to that play, unlike Ricky's retarded rant (which is representative of 99.487% of Alabama's redneck dumbass fanbase). 

Can't say I wouldn't have reacted in the same way if I'd seen it and not even as a Tennessee fan, just somebody who hates you arrogant assholes. 
I'm not sure which one was funnier, this retard or the other retard.
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2009, 12:46:37 PM »
I'm not sure which one was funnier, this retard or the other retard.

Nothing funny there at all. 

Just a mild and measured reaction from a guy who just watched his team get punched in the gut.  I thought his reaction was pretty tame. 

Only an assclown Alabama fan would find any humor at all in that. 
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2009, 02:16:00 PM »
FYI, Kiffin has been publically reprimanded by the SEC yet again. He will be suspended should he commit another violation, per Mike Slive.
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2009, 08:42:05 PM »
Vol fan reaction to Cody's Blocked FG

Fulmer's chain smokin' wife: "Come on Lincoln, you can do this...."

Phillip Fulmer: "OH FUCK!!!! DAMN IT!!!! FUCK!!!!!! DAMN FUCK IT!!!!! FUCK!!!! ASS!!!!!! RAMMER LAMMER MY ASS!!!! FUCK MY ASS!!!!!!!"

Fulmer's chain smokin' wife: "damn it...please don't hit me, again....fuck, that shit cock ass fuckin' sucks.....that's right honey they didn't beat no ones asses."
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2009, 08:50:36 PM »
FYI, Kiffin has been publically reprimanded by the SEC yet again. He will be suspended should he commit another violation, per Mike Slive.
Mullen has also be publically reprimanded....a few more coaches speak out, there might be someone else stepping in to see what the fuck is going on.
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Re: Lane Kiffin = Little Bitch
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2009, 08:53:01 PM »
If that video shows one thing it's that it sucks to watch sports with woman.  They have NO idea how to be pissed off when something bad happens. 
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