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« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2009, 01:07:46 PM »
I think people (besides the casual fans) probably understood that Arkansas could actually be quite a bit better this year and end up with the same or only slightly better record.  

They get Georgia and Florida from the East, along with West road games of Alabama, Ole Miss, and LSU.  
It takes a few years to get your team together. Petrino has really had only one recruiting class(#17,IIRC). He honored the commitments from Nutt's recruiting his first year.
I'm sure Auburn was in the same situation this last year.
When both of our teams get players for their styles, it's gonna shake some stuff up in the SEC.
Petrino's scheme seems to take longer to learn for some reason. I think it may be that he is a perfectionist.
Gus seems to be able to implement his offense fairly quick. Right off the bat at Tulsa and now here.
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« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2009, 01:12:59 PM »
If he can't recruit, then you're right....you can't win anywhere if you can't recruit.  But you can win at Arkansas.  It's been done quite a bit through the years (everyone knows of Frank Broyles...he had eight 9 win seasons, including three 10+ win seasons from 64 to 68.  Then there was Dr Lou who had another four 9 win seasons in his 7 seasons there, including going 30-5 from 77 to 79.  Then Ken Hatfield went 48-13 from 85 to 89.  It was the Crowe, Kines, Ford era that derailed them...oh yeah, and joining the SEC).

But they are actually in a relatively good position as far as being an SEC school, so they can recruit in the southeast, but also being practically in Big 12 country.  There is no reason Arkansas can't get the Chase Daniels and Michael Crabtrees that schools like Missouri, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Texas A&M are getting out of the southwest.


I never said nobody could win at Arkansas. I said Petrino can't win at Arkansas. Logistically, yes, they are in a good position. But they don't have a ton of in-state talent to dip from. That increases the number of guys they have to fight other schools for. I'm sorry, but Arkansas isn't going to score alot of blue-chip talent from the AL/MS/GA/FL area going up against UA/AU, OM/MSU, UGA, UF/U/FSU.
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« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2009, 01:14:15 PM »
Oh, and that they will lose to AU this weekend.

Look here Corso, if you persist with making this statement I am gonna have to ban you for the rest of the week.
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Re: This is one arrogant statement
« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2009, 01:16:57 PM »
It takes a few years to get your team together. Petrino has really had only one recruiting class(#17,IIRC). He honored the commitments from Nutt's recruiting his first year.
I'm sure Auburn was in the same situation this last year.
When both of our teams get players for their styles, it's gonna shake some stuff up in the SEC.
Petrino's scheme seems to take longer to learn for some reason. I think it may be that he is a perfectionist.
Gus seems to be able to implement his offense fairly quick. Right off the bat at Tulsa and now here.
I don't know if you've been living under a rock, but AU is already starting to shake things up. They went from 5-7 to 5-0 this season with a new staff. They have their players for their system. Alabama went from 7-6 CNS' first season to damn near playing for the MNC in the second......you think its easy to learn his defense? You think Saban isn't anal retentive?
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« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2009, 01:21:11 PM »
I never said nobody could win at Arkansas. I said Petrino can't win at Arkansas. Logistically, yes, they are in a good position. But they don't have a ton of in-state talent to dip from. That increases the number of guys they have to fight other schools for. I'm sorry, but Arkansas isn't going to score alot of blue-chip talent from the AL/MS/GA/FL area going up against UA/AU, OM/MSU, UGA, UF/U/FSU.
We just signed a 10 year contract to play Texas A&M in the Cowboys new stadium. That gives us good exposure in the state of Texas, which borders us to the west. There are more ball players in that one state than the 4 you just mentioned.
We have never been a big factor in those states. Sure, we get one every now and then, but AR, LA, and TX have been our bread and butter for years.
We also got the top player from MO this year in Petrino's first real recruiting class. You'll see him Saturday.
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« Reply #65 on: October 07, 2009, 01:26:03 PM »
I don't know if you've been living under a rock, but AU is already starting to shake things up. They went from 5-7 to 5-0 this season with a new staff. They have their players for their system. Alabama went from 7-6 CNS' first season to damn near playing for the MNC in the second......you think its easy to learn his defense? You think Saban isn't anal retentive?
You just think AU is shaking things up now. Let Gus pick some players for 2-3 years.
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« Reply #66 on: October 07, 2009, 01:28:34 PM »
I never said nobody could win at Arkansas. I said Petrino can't win at Arkansas. Logistically, yes, they are in a good position. But they don't have a ton of in-state talent to dip from. That increases the number of guys they have to fight other schools for. I'm sorry, but Arkansas isn't going to score alot of blue-chip talent from the AL/MS/GA/FL area going up against UA/AU, OM/MSU, UGA, UF/U/FSU.
Pore little ole Arkysaw.
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« Reply #67 on: October 07, 2009, 01:38:18 PM »
You keep saying they are better than last year, and they have more options and weapons than last year, yet we still get the same results and performances from last year. You know what the only difference is from last year? Arkansas is beating scrub teams by more than 4 points, and they played us in Tuscaloosa this year. Thats pretty much it. Oh, and that they will lose to AU this weekend.
Kick us while we're down. We're not gonna stay there forever.
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« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2009, 03:44:37 PM »
I never said nobody could win at Arkansas. I said Petrino can't win at Arkansas. Logistically, yes, they are in a good position. But they don't have a ton of in-state talent to dip from. That increases the number of guys they have to fight other schools for. I'm sorry, but Arkansas isn't going to score alot of blue-chip talent from the AL/MS/GA/FL area going up against UA/AU, OM/MSU, UGA, UF/U/FSU.

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« Reply #69 on: October 07, 2009, 03:47:14 PM »
Can we get this on our Jumbotron?
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« Reply #70 on: October 07, 2009, 06:46:16 PM »
Can we get this on our Jumbotron?

Hell, I wish we could get it on ours.

I hear she's an elementary school teacher somewhere south of here.
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Re: This is one arrogant statement
« Reply #71 on: October 07, 2009, 09:30:10 PM »
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Just a couple of notes about Malzahn.

He did not invent the Wildcat, tooly Nutt did.

He was essentially relieved of his OC duties mid season at Ark because he wanted to throw the ball with Mustain rather than run McFadden and Jones. GM almost cost Ark the Bama game. Nutt replaced an undefeated Mustain with ? and they took off.

GM was co-OC at Tulsa in charge of the passing game in Todd Graham's offense. The same O that Applewhite ran very successfully under him at Rice.

I passed up correcting this jackass initially, but after patronizing happy hour, I can't let it go.  Some of you may care, some may not.

I think we all know NEITHER Gus nor anyone with the last name of Nutt invented the wildcat.  Gus has NEVER tried to claim credit for it, either.  Most do not know this (and most Arkansas fans don't remember this), but the wildcat formation was not used until the 7th game of the 2006 season vs. Ole Miss in Fayetteville.  Danny and Houston Nutt claim they ran it pre-Gus, but if that were the case, why did it not see game action until midway through Gus' only season at Arkansas?  The bottom line is Gus is the one who brought (not invented) the wildcat offense to Arkansas and taught it to both Danny and Houston Nutt.  After Gus left in January 2007 for Tulsa, Frank Broyles publicly stated he told Nutt to rename it to the WildHog.  I don't believe this for a second.  I think Nutt mentioned it to Frank, Frank ran with it since he is also self-serving, and they essentially took someone else's creation and called it their own.

Here's an article about the wildcat...http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203440104574405322525530870.html

Here's what happened with Gus' transition to Tulsa...and this is the VERY short version...

DC Reggie Herring used to verbally taunt Gus in practice calling him "high school" in front of the players and would run blitzes, etc. while Gus was trying to teach the offense the new system.  The result was QB Casey tool getting PLASTERED and hurting his back.  Therefore, we opened the season with Robert Johnson at QB vs. Southern California (a FINE Nutt recruit that was FCS quality).  Also, remember McFadden had his toe severed after fighting at da club a month before the game, so he was about 60%.  After we opened with another embarrassing loss to SoCal 50-14, Frank Broyles went to Houston Nutt and told him to scrap Gus' offense and go back to what Nutt was doing.  The ironic thing is Gus was not allowed to run HIS offense he ran at Tulsa or Auburn because Nutt wouldn't let him in the first place.  So it was NOT the Gus HUNH that was run in the SoCal loss.

Frank told Nutt to start Mustain in game 2 vs. Utah State.  We proceed to run off 7 straight wins with Mustain as the starter (although he was not always great, but still a true frosh).  We are 7-1 and playing at SCarolina.  Mustain throws an INT on our first possession.  Casey tool plays the rest of the game (his back was healed from Herring trying to sabotage Gus in practice) and we win.  tool gets the start vs. TN the next week (we win due to McFadden/Jones) and then MS State the next week (tool was horrible).  We are now 10-1, 7-0 in the SEC heading into a game with LSU in Little Rock.  We lose 30-26.  Casey tool goes 3-17 for 29 yards passing and played the ENTIRE game.  Nutt said after the game he did not put Mustain in the game because he didn't give him enough reps in practice the week of the game.  Nutt had also been quoted in the newspaper (I poop you not) that "Casey was the better hander-offer".  Meanwhile, Houston, Danny and OL coach Mike Markuson are clearly in charge of final play calling with some input from Gus.  We have a month to prepare for Wisconsin in the Capital One Bowl and, I kid you not, Gus was given 14 plays he could call during the game.  We lost 17-14.  This was also the game Nutt was texting his lover, Donna Bragg, 19 minutes before the damn kickoff (yeah, Nutt was focused).  Gus was never able to run his offense and was sabotaged from the start.  Gus was NEVER relieved of his OC duties...this would imply he had them in the first place.

Gus then found out Nutt had contacted David Lee towards the end of the season to come on staff as Co-OC or some such BS.  Gus shortly announced he was leaving for Tulsa to join Todd Graham.  Lee Ziemba committed to Auburn the day after Gus left for Tulsa (he was recruiting Lee).

The "Gus wanted a pass happy offense" is utter BS.  At Springdale HS and Shiloh Christian HS, Gus' offense was 50/50 run/pass.  If you look at his first year at Tulsa with QB Paul Smith who was better than Mustain has been, Gus' offense averaged 40 run plays and 40 pass plays per game.  In his 2nd year at Tulsa, his play calling was 63/37 run/pass.  He has a gift for maximizing results out of the talent he possesses, which, of course is something Auburn fans have already figured out.  The assertion Gus would have misused McFadden, Jones and Hillis in 2006 had he been given 100% control of the offense is absurd and an insult to anyone with just a layman's knowledge of CFB.  I think we all know what happened once Gus was gone and Nutt stripped all the motion and counter schemes out of the offense with all those stud skill players in 2007...back to 4-4 in the SEC.

Todd Graham had already hired an OC when he hired Gus.  Hence, the Co-OC titles.  However, Graham made no bones about it that Gus had full control.  Gus even dictated to Graham the conditioning of the entire team since players on both sides of the ball require excellent conditioning.  Graham later admitted doing it Gus' way made him nervous and uneasy, but it worked to perfection.  Too bad Tulsa never was able to get ANY defensive talent.  To even suggest TU ran a Major Applewhite system under Gus is utter BS.

I am a huge fan of Gus for a number of reasons, most of which have nothing to do with his football abilities.  If Auburn gets back to the defensive level of 2004-ish and Gus gets his players, watch out.
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Re: This is one arrogant statement
« Reply #72 on: October 07, 2009, 10:01:40 PM »
Are you seriously trying to tell me that ONLY at Arkansas he would have the opportunity to break a few records? I'm pretty sure any SEC school, with the exception of UF, would have taken him. I guess if he was only concerned with breaking records, but didn't give a poop about winning, then Arkansas was the right choice for him. But that would also make him one of the dumbest players in college football. Outside of UF, I think he would have had a good shot at playing at any SEC school this season.

Greg McElroy has already re-written one record. The offense under his direction has broken another record as well, scoring over 30 points in 5 straight games. Our first 3 games, we've had 500 or more yards on offense. With a QB who has never started a game before.

AU has scored the most points in the SEC, and Alabama is only a TD behind them. Can you just imagine had he gone to AU? They would be scoring 80 points a game with 700 yards of offense a game probably. Their offense has already broken a few records, I think. Only problem is, I don't think he's a "system" QB.

Its not like Arkansas has the only QB in the league breaking some records. Say what you want about Alabama and who we've put in the NFL. JPW seems to be doing well. The Falcons actually cut the QB that was in front of JPW that has been in the NFL. So, apparently he didn't do so terribly. If McElroy keeps it together this season and next, I would imagine he would be drafted in a respectable round. Is CNS a tool? Yes. Is it tough to play for him? Yes. Are you probably going to win a poopload of games and get alot of attention from NFL scouts playing for him? Yes.

Not happening so much playing for Arkansas. But like I said, if he just wants to break some records and doesn't give a poop about winning games, then Arkansas is the right place for him. I know some here said Arkansas would me much improved this season, but I said it then and I'll say it now; you're wrong.

Ryan Mallett was born in Arkansas and lived there his whole life growing up.  He went to school on the TX side of Texarkana because that is where his mother taught.  He has never been anything BUT a huge Razorback fan.  The summer before Ryan's JR year in HS, Ryan attended Nutt's Arkansas camp.  To further prove how bad a judge of talent Nutt actually is, Houston told he should work out with the TE's and force him to do so.  With the atrocities in Ryan's recruitment, Mustain committing and reports from some of Ryan's family Nutt never even officially offerered Ryan a scholarship as a QB, Mallett went to Michigan.

Ryan did not love Michigan and had thoughts of a transfer before Carr stepped down.  Once the coaching change took place, the opportunity arose for Mallet to transfer to Arkansas.  Enter BMFP.  Ryan's parents called Brian Brohm's parents to discuss the Petrino brothers.  That conversation sealed the deal according to Mallett himself.  RWS, Petrino is one of the best offensive minds in football.  Even Nick Saban has acknowledged this.  ESPN's Chris Mortensen has called Petrino one of the Top 3 offensive coaches in all of football, college or pro, and likely the best.  OU DC Brent Venables told an acquaintance last spring Petrino was the best offensive coach in CFB and that was the consensus among top tier FBS coaches.  I think you also have to credit QB coach Garrick McGee who gave up an OC job to come to Arkansas.  He is an EXCELLENT QB coach and an even better recruiter.  When Mallett arrived at Arkansas, he was 265.  Petrino has him down to 238, has "fixed" his mechanics and the only two INT's he's thrown all year were 1) off the WR hands batting the ball in the air, and 2) being hit by the nation's sack leader (aTm's Von Miller) and the ball shot up in the air straight to an aTm defender.  Mallett can now roll out and throw on the run and has minimized his INT's which were two huge knocks on him at Michigan.  He will ONLY get better, especially if our O-line gets their shit together.  But there is no doubt there is no one better than Bobby and Paul Petrino and Garrick McGee to get Mallett ready for the next level.
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« Reply #73 on: October 07, 2009, 10:02:36 PM »
You guys had a Dick..a Nut..and a Johnson.  I don't care if it sounds like a 6th grader...I laugh every time...especially when you played the Cocks.

The "Wildcat" or whatever anyone wants to call it, was being run so far back it's ridiculous.  Even David DUI Palmer was torching teams back in..well, whenever the hell he played for Bammer.
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« Reply #74 on: October 07, 2009, 10:13:07 PM »
I passed up correcting this jackass initially, but after patronizing happy hour, I can't let it go.  Some of you may care, some may not.

I think we all know NEITHER Gus nor anyone with the last name of Nutt invented the wildcat.  Gus has NEVER tried to claim credit for it, either.  Most do not know this (and most Arkansas fans don't remember this), but the wildcat formation was not used until the 7th game of the 2006 season vs. Ole Miss in Fayetteville.  Danny and Houston Nutt claim they ran it pre-Gus, but if that were the case, why did it not see game action until midway through Gus' only season at Arkansas?  The bottom line is Gus is the one who brought (not invented) the wildcat offense to Arkansas and taught it to both Danny and Houston Nutt.  After Gus left in January 2007 for Tulsa, Frank Broyles publicly stated he told Nutt to rename it to the WildHog.  I don't believe this for a second.  I think Nutt mentioned it to Frank, Frank ran with it since he is also self-serving, and they essentially took someone else's creation and called it their own.

Here's an article about the wildcat...http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203440104574405322525530870.html

Here's what happened with Gus' transition to Tulsa...and this is the VERY short version...

DC Reggie Herring used to verbally taunt Gus in practice calling him "high school" in front of the players and would run blitzes, etc. while Gus was trying to teach the offense the new system.  The result was QB Casey tool getting PLASTERED and hurting his back.  Therefore, we opened the season with Robert Johnson at QB vs. Southern California (a FINE Nutt recruit that was FCS quality).  Also, remember McFadden had his toe severed after fighting at da club a month before the game, so he was about 60%.  After we opened with another embarrassing loss to SoCal 50-14, Frank Broyles went to Houston Nutt and told him to scrap Gus' offense and go back to what Nutt was doing.  The ironic thing is Gus was not allowed to run HIS offense he ran at Tulsa or Auburn because Nutt wouldn't let him in the first place.  So it was NOT the Gus HUNH that was run in the SoCal loss.

Frank told Nutt to start Mustain in game 2 vs. Utah State.  We proceed to run off 7 straight wins with Mustain as the starter (although he was not always great, but still a true frosh).  We are 7-1 and playing at SCarolina.  Mustain throws an INT on our first possession.  Casey tool plays the rest of the game (his back was healed from Herring trying to sabotage Gus in practice) and we win.  tool gets the start vs. TN the next week (we win due to McFadden/Jones) and then MS State the next week (tool was horrible).  We are now 10-1, 7-0 in the SEC heading into a game with LSU in Little Rock.  We lose 30-26.  Casey tool goes 3-17 for 29 yards passing and played the ENTIRE game.  Nutt said after the game he did not put Mustain in the game because he didn't give him enough reps in practice the week of the game.  Nutt had also been quoted in the newspaper (I poop you not) that "Casey was the better hander-offer".  Meanwhile, Houston, Danny and OL coach Mike Markuson are clearly in charge of final play calling with some input from Gus.  We have a month to prepare for Wisconsin in the Capital One Bowl and, I kid you not, Gus was given 14 plays he could call during the game.  We lost 17-14.  This was also the game Nutt was texting his lover, Donna Bragg, 19 minutes before the damn kickoff (yeah, Nutt was focused).  Gus was never able to run his offense and was sabotaged from the start.  Gus was NEVER relieved of his OC duties...this would imply he had them in the first place.

Gus then found out Nutt had contacted David Lee towards the end of the season to come on staff as Co-OC or some such BS.  Gus shortly announced he was leaving for Tulsa to join Todd Graham.  Lee Ziemba committed to Auburn the day after Gus left for Tulsa (he was recruiting Lee).

The "Gus wanted a pass happy offense" is utter BS.  At Springdale HS and Shiloh Christian HS, Gus' offense was 50/50 run/pass.  If you look at his first year at Tulsa with QB Paul Smith who was better than Mustain has been, Gus' offense averaged 40 run plays and 40 pass plays per game.  In his 2nd year at Tulsa, his play calling was 63/37 run/pass.  He has a gift for maximizing results out of the talent he possesses, which, of course is something Auburn fans have already figured out.  The assertion Gus would have misused McFadden, Jones and Hillis in 2006 had he been given 100% control of the offense is absurd and an insult to anyone with just a layman's knowledge of CFB.  I think we all know what happened once Gus was gone and Nutt stripped all the motion and counter schemes out of the offense with all those stud skill players in 2007...back to 4-4 in the SEC.

Todd Graham had already hired an OC when he hired Gus.  Hence, the Co-OC titles.  However, Graham made no bones about it that Gus had full control.  Gus even dictated to Graham the conditioning of the entire team since players on both sides of the ball require excellent conditioning.  Graham later admitted doing it Gus' way made him nervous and uneasy, but it worked to perfection.  Too bad Tulsa never was able to get ANY defensive talent.  To even suggest TU ran a Major Applewhite system under Gus is utter BS.

I am a huge fan of Gus for a number of reasons, most of which have nothing to do with his football abilities.  If Auburn gets back to the defensive level of 2004-ish and Gus gets his players, watch out.
I'm glad that you decided to do it all in a nutshell, because I know that there was a lot more to it than what you posted, but if you'd posted all of it, the meaning behind what you were trying to say would've been lost in all the information.  I didn't realize that Coach Malzahn had been basically takin' completely out...14 plays?  Are you fuckin' kidding me?  Who the fuck would want to stay ANYWHERE after they're told, okay we're only going to Allow you to do an eighth of your job....we're only going to Allow you to work an eighth of you usual 40 hours...okay?!?!  Fuck whoever was behind this....

On a side note....Auburn fans does any of that sound somewhat similar to last year?  One should NEVER degrade another in front of others.
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Re: This is one arrogant statement
« Reply #75 on: October 07, 2009, 10:21:21 PM »
Maybe not yet, but with Auburn, Florida and Ole Miss in the next 3 weeks, he's looking at possibly starting 0-5 in SEC play.

If that ain't a 10 count for this season, I'm not sure what is.

#23 UGA
@ #3 Bama
#17 Auburn
@ #1 Florida
@ #21 Ole Miss
#25 SCarolina
MS State
@#4 LSU

We knew coming into this season the schedule might not reflect a huge progressive step forward in the W/L columns.  For gawd's sake, look at that schedule and tell me how ANY SEC team would not have trouble along the way.  For a program still recovering from recruiting incompetence, facing ranked teams 7 out of 8 conference games during the season is the textbook definition of murderer's row when you are in your 2nd year of building a program previously burned to the ground.

Petrino likely has a couple of staff members left to replace and he damn sure needs another recruiting class or two before we know what he can do at full strength.  The talent Nutt left for Petrino is NOTHING like what Zook, Shula or Tuberville left for their successors and even the best coaches can only polish talent turds so much.
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Re: This is one arrogant statement
« Reply #76 on: October 07, 2009, 10:25:42 PM »
I started a thread back in the summer about Arkansas' stretch of games, not even thinking Auburn would be one of the tougher matchups.  Fuck anyone who doesn't think the SEC is the most BRUTAL conference to play in.  That's some eye-opening, nasty shit right there, General.
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Re: This is one arrogant statement
« Reply #77 on: October 07, 2009, 10:37:24 PM »
If he had a recruiting base like we have here in Alabama, then maybe I would agree with you. If he had something to work with right off the bat, maybe I would agree with you. He has nothing on campus outside of Mallett. He has nothing spectacular coming in recruit wise. He isn't a beastly recruiter to begin with. Petrino will not be able to consistantly win in the SEC....you can write that down.

In Petrino's first full year of recruiting, his class ranked #14 per Rivals re-ranking according to players who actually made it to campus by August.  I would say Petrino's rate of success in recruiting to date at Arkansas is 1 for 1.

You have nearly 50 players on your team from outside the state of Alabama, so please don't try and claim you can recruit in-state like UGA, LSU, UF or Texas.  The Alabama recruiting base relies heavily upon out-of-state recruiting if you peruse the current roster just like the vast majority of teams in power conferences.

We all know the state of Arkansas is not a talent rich state.  However, the Tulsa MSA 100 miles away and the rest of NE OK is rich with talent (NE OK dominates football in OK).  QB coach Garrick McGee has had EVERY stud in OK considering us.  We recruit Texas (the most talent rich state per capita) and are already seeing dividends from our annual series with aTm in Arlington (North Texas is the most talent rich area in America right now per capita).  We are getting studs like Ronnie Wingo from Missouri.  We are drawing from GA, AL, LA and MS.  The Petrino brothers filled nearly 30% of their Louisville roster with Florida kids and they have a LOT of excellent relationships with HS coaches in FL.  We also have some great connections in California with the current staff.

To say Mallett is the only good player on our team is ludicrous.  To say we have no talent coming in is also ludicrous since Signing Day is 4 1/2 months away.  I'm not going to throw out some arbitrary prediction of Petrino's future success, but your statements saying he will fail are based on flawed logic, inaccuracy and wishful thinking at this point.
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Re: This is one arrogant statement
« Reply #78 on: October 07, 2009, 10:53:36 PM »
In Petrino's first full year of recruiting, his class ranked #14 per Rivals re-ranking according to players who actually made it to campus by August.  I would say Petrino's rate of success in recruiting to date at Arkansas is 1 for 1.

You have nearly 50 players on your team from outside the state of Alabama, so please don't try and claim you can recruit in-state like UGA, LSU, UF or Texas.  The Alabama recruiting base relies heavily upon out-of-state recruiting if you peruse the current roster just like the vast majority of teams in power conferences.

We all know the state of Arkansas is not a talent rich state.  However, the Tulsa MSA 100 miles away and the rest of NE OK is rich with talent (NE OK dominates football in OK).  QB coach Garrick McGee has had EVERY stud in OK considering us.  We recruit Texas (the most talent rich state per capita) and are already seeing dividends from our annual series with aTm in Arlington (North Texas is the most talent rich area in America right now per capita).  We are getting studs like Ronnie Wingo from Missouri.  We are drawing from GA, AL, LA and MS.  The Petrino brothers filled nearly 30% of their Louisville roster with Florida kids and they have a LOT of excellent relationships with HS coaches in FL.  We also have some great connections in California with the current staff.

To say Mallett is the only good player on our team is ludicrous.  To say we have no talent coming in is also ludicrous since Signing Day is 4 1/2 months away.  I'm not going to throw out some arbitrary prediction of Petrino's future success, but your statements saying he will fail are based on flawed logic, inaccuracy and wishful thinking at this point.
RWS is king of making ludicrous statements....He said that Auburn's signing class last year would be miserable, right around this time of the year, come to think of it.
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Re: This is one arrogant statement
« Reply #79 on: October 07, 2009, 11:07:06 PM »
That depends on your stance of "better".  Aside from having a great quarterback, where are they better?  Michael Smith, who had over 1000 yards rushing last season, has only 180 yards on 32 carries.  He hasn't had more than 12 carries in a game yet.  Arkansas has no balance.  

The sad thing is, aside from having a good running back in Michael Smith, they also have a great freshman runningback in Ronnie Wingo Jr.  Of course, their only shot at meaningful touches will be screen plays.  

As for their schedule, it isn't any tougher this year than it was last year.  Trade Kentucky for Georgia, and Texas A&M for Texas.  Hell, I'd say it was tougher last year with an easier road schedule.  

Schedule is not tougher?  Name a road SEC schedule tougher than Gainsville, Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge (Saturday night game) and Oxford in either the 2008 or 2009 seasons.  And how much tougher should it get?  Sagarin had us as the 5th toughest schedule in the nation last year.

It may not show up on paper, but we have more depth this year.  Who can expect 4 or 5 star DL, DB's, RB's, WR's and OL to just show up day one and be a primary contributor?  We started 10 sophomores vs. aTm in Week 4 for us.  Let's compare our starting lineup in the LSU game the Saturday after Thanksgiving and rehash this discussion.  FWIW, Michael Smith was only given 4 carries by design in the opener.  He was hurt on his opening run vs. UGA in Week 2.  Let Smith get healthy and let Wingo and Davis learn the playbook.  I realize your frosh is tearing it up, but even the #1 RB Bryce Brown is off to a slow start.
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