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Are these really clunkers?

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Are these really clunkers?
« on: August 24, 2009, 05:58:33 PM »
I know alot of people that would love to have one of these.

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Re: Are these really clunkers?
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 06:58:51 PM »
Those are stock photos. I wonder what the real trade-ins looked like.
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Re: Are these really clunkers?
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 07:11:01 PM »
Those are stock photos. I wonder what the real trade-ins looked like.

Probably better than a lot of lower income or young folks.  Remember, two of the requirements were that the vehicle be in running condition and that it must have been insured for the prior 12 months.  How many people do you know that will insure a car that is truly a wortless clunker?

This is typical of how government will run things vs the private sector running things.

Government says give me your old car, i'll give you money, then we will destroy old car.  (net loss tot he taxpayer = $3,500 - $4,500

Private industry says give me your old car, I will give you moiney for it, I will sell said car and make more money.  Net loss to the taxpayer = $0.00.  Actually will make the taxpayer money when next buyer pays sales tax on used car. (which brings me to another rant, if the original owner paid sales tax on the entire value of the car, why would the next buyer have to pay sales tax again on the remaining value of the car?)
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Re: Are these really clunkers?
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 07:40:38 AM »
Hell, I drive number 7 on the list and will not be getting rid of it till the wheels come off or until I move to Chili.
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Re: Are these really clunkers?
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 12:54:51 PM »
Hell, I drive number 7 on the list and will not be getting rid of it till the wheels come off or until I move to Chili.

I roll in a beat up 2001 Ford Expedition with 125K.  I will continue to roll that way because of two words...PAID FOR!!!
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Re: Are these really clunkers?
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2009, 01:15:54 PM »
I roll in a beat up 2001 Ford Expedition with 125K.  I will continue to roll that way because of two words...PAID FOR!!!
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Re: Are these really clunkers?
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2009, 01:09:58 PM »
Probably better than a lot of lower income or young folks.  Remember, two of the requirements were that the vehicle be in running condition and that it must have been insured for the prior 12 months.  How many people do you know that will insure a car that is truly a wortless clunker?

This is typical of how government will run things vs the private sector running things.

Government says give me your old car, i'll give you money, then we will destroy old car.  (net loss tot he taxpayer = $3,500 - $4,500

Private industry says give me your old car, I will give you moiney for it, I will sell said car and make more money.  Net loss to the taxpayer = $0.00.  Actually will make the taxpayer money when next buyer pays sales tax on used car. (which brings me to another rant, if the original owner paid sales tax on the entire value of the car, why would the next buyer have to pay sales tax again on the remaining value of the car?)

Yes, but you must consider that the government now has major stock in the auto manufacturing industry.  A good way to put NEW cars in the market is to destroy all of the older, affordable, cars.  Although it goes without saying, our government leaders aren't concerned about saving tax dollars.

Reform will not save us.  We need a Revolution.
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Re: Are these really clunkers?
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2009, 01:32:07 PM »
Every time I hear one of the socialists or one of their media lap dogs talk about how "phenomenally successful" the President's Cash for Clunkers program is it makes me laugh. 

Of course it's phenomenally successful; giving away other people's money!

"from each according to his ability to each according to his need".
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Re: Are these really clunkers?
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2009, 07:33:14 AM »
I work for a company that owns car dealerships across the country.  Currently, the federal government owes us around $24 million.  I'll be shocked if we even see half of that money.
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