Kickin it with Gene Chizik

[RWS]

Part I: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sec/0-8-132/Kicking-it-with-Gene-Chizik--Part-I.html

Part II: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sec/0-8-134/Kicking-it-with-Gene-Chizik--Part-II.html

One of my favorite quotes:

Even though your record at Iowa State wasn't very good, the fact that you'd been a head coach had to work in your favor, didn't it?

GC: For me personally, as far as what kind of head coach I am, those two years at Iowa State were invaluable to me. Auburn hired a better coach after I'd been at Iowa State for two years trying to rebuild a program that was way down than they would have if they had hired a defensive coordinator from Texas. It's not even close, not even close.

A little presumptuous, don't you think? So, I guess when you improve, you actually lose more games?

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

Part I: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sec/0-8-132/Kicking-it-with-Gene-Chizik--Part-I.html

Part II: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sec/0-8-134/Kicking-it-with-Gene-Chizik--Part-II.html

One of my favorite quotes:
A little presumptuous, don't you think? So, I guess when you improve, you actually lose more games?

I know you're capable of blowing this up into something huge, but I think he's simply pointing out that he feels he learned a lot about a Head Coach's role after those two years.  It was a learning experience. 

I'm not sure if that was really all that hard to understand.  Was it?

[RWS]

I know you're capable of blowing this up into something huge, but I think he's simply pointing out that he feels he learned a lot about a Head Coach's role after those two years.  It was a learning experience.  

I'm not sure if that was really all that hard to understand.  Was it?

I'm not so sure that he did. However, thats simply my opinion. We will see if I was right over the next year or so. Also, I don't know how he can be so sure that he was a better hire than anybody from Texas. Unless somebody has a crystal ball, nobody knows.

[War Eagle!!!]

He was talking about himself at Texas dillhole. You try to blow this shit out of proportion and take jabs at Chizik when ever you can. We get it, you think he sucks. Stop being so god damn obsessive over our coach and program. We will see how it plays out on the field...

[AUChizad]

I'm not so sure that he did. However, thats simply my opinion. We will see if I was right over the next year or so. Also, I don't know how he can be so sure that he was a better hire than anybody from Texas. Unless somebody has a crystal ball, nobody knows.

He's talking about himself minus the HC experience, tard.

[RWS]

He's talking about himself minus the HC experience, tard.

Well then, that makes a little more sense. Still, my point partially still stands. I'm not sure how he can say he is a better head coach now. He showed no promise as a head coach at ISU. Again, I will stand corrected if he proves me wrong over the next year or two.

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

Well then, that makes a little more sense. Still, my point partially still stands. I'm not sure how he can say he is a better head coach now. He showed no promise as a head coach at ISU. Again, I will stand corrected if he proves me wrong over the next year or two.

Wow.  Isn't it reasonable to assume that regardless of his win/ loss record at ISU, that he gained some experience as a HC, AS A HC to two years????  Does it necessarily translate only from wins, or losses?  He's had to learn to deal with staffs, media and recruiting from a standpoint that he never would have as just an assistant at Texas.

Whatever though...

[Snaggletiger]

I've argued the point for years when people pimp this assistant or that for a head coaching position.  A lot of them work out.  Great examples with Stoops, Richt etc.  A lot more don't.  The difference in responsibilities for a HC and an assistant are worlds apart.  The assistant deals with his assigned duties for the position he coaches, recruiting and so forth.  The HC has to hire and fire, oversee the staff, decide how, when and where to practice, organize his sideline operations/communications, how will we walk out of the frickin' tunnel?  He has to do playback shows, commercials, speak at every fundraiser, QB clubs....deal with the administration...Jay Jacobs and sometimes..the infamous BOT.  On top of that, every step you take, every meal you eat, every dump you drop is talked about, analyzed and rehashed in every sports media outlet, message board and coffee shop in the State.

In other words, when you consider an assistant as a HC at the D1 level...especially in a BCS league, his playcalling abilities are probably way down on the list of requirements.  I would imagine it's quite easy to get in over your head before you know it. 

[Greaseyweasel]

Wow.  Isn't it reasonable to assume that regardless of his win/ loss record at ISU, that he gained some experience as a HC, AS A HC to two years????  Does it necessarily translate only from wins, or losses?  He's had to learn to deal with staffs, media and recruiting from a standpoint that he never would have as just an assistant at Texas.

True but look at the number of close games he lost while at ISU. The rule of thumb is that when you don't have the talent you are beaten by wide margins, when you are out coached it is usually by a small margin. If you can't take big 12 North level talent and coach them to win against other b12N level talent then what chance do you have to take SEC level talent and coach them to win against SEC level talent? Basically none.

After looking at his w/l record @ ISU what other SEC school would have wasted their time giving him an interview? I'll give you the answer skippy. None, no one, nada, zilch and on and on. Vandy, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Arkansas...none of the perennial bottom feeders would have blown an interview.

A job like ISU is considered a starter job in head coaching. When  you fail at it you fade away to mediocrity. Thats the harsh truth. chizik failed big time despite any and all positive spin he puts on it. He's either a really shitty liar or is in complete denial of his inability to be a head coach. Either one of those traits is a recipe for disaster.
And we are paying him 2 million a year to fuck up our program.  

[boartitz]

True but look at the number of close games he lost while at ISU. The rule of thumb is that when you don't have the talent you are beaten by wide margins, when you are out coached it is usually by a small margin. If you can't take big 12 North level talent and coach them to win against other b12N level talent then what chance do you have to take SEC level talent and coach them to win against SEC level talent? Basically none.

After looking at his w/l record @ ISU what other SEC school would have wasted their time giving him an interview? I'll give you the answer skippy. None, no one, nada, zilch and on and on. Vandy, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Arkansas...none of the perennial bottom feeders would have blown an interview.

A job like ISU is considered a starter job in head coaching. When  you fail at it you fade away to mediocrity. Thats the harsh truth. chizik failed big time despite any and all positive spin he puts on it. He's either a really shitty liar or is in complete denial of his inability to be a head coach. Either one of those traits is a recipe for disaster.
And we are paying him 2 million a year to fuck up our program.  

We are perennial mediocre.

[RWS]

Well, this quote has got to make you guys feel good about your upcoming season:

http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2009/08/video_gene_chizik_todd_on_aubu.html#more

``When we win games at Auburn, it's going to come down to the last two minutes and that's the way we've got to feel,'' Chizik said.

Hell, at least maybe he's being honest. Personally, I was OK with Alabama's method of it pretty much being over at halftime in some games. I guess that just takes all of the fun out of it, though.

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

Well, this quote has got to make you guys feel good about your upcoming season:

http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2009/08/video_gene_chizik_todd_on_aubu.html#moreHell, at least maybe he's being honest. Personally, I was OK with Alabama's method of it pretty much being over at halftime in some games. I guess that just takes all of the fun out of it, though.

Every play should be played as if it's coming down to the last two minutes.  He's stressing that every play should be played with the urgency of the last two minutes of a game.  He's not saying that when Auburn wins games, it's always going to come down to two minutes. 

Nice try though.

 

[RWS]

He's not saying that when Auburn wins games, it's always going to come down to two minutes.  

Oh.....

"When we win games at Auburn, it's going to come down to the last two minutes"

Perhaps I can't read. Its funny, there were even AU fans in the comments like "What?". I get the gist of what he is trying to say, I just think he simply misspoke, and I knew either you or Chizad would jizz all over it. Maybe it would have been a little better worded as "Some games will come down to the last two minutes", or, "We should play every play with the urgency of a two minute drill.", etc, instead of "When we win games at Auburn, it's going to come down to the last two minutes." There is no misreading what he actually said, no matter how you spin it.

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

Oh.....

"When we win games at Auburn, it's going to come down to the last two minutes"

Perhaps I can't read. Its funny, there were even AU fans in the comments like "What?". I get the gist of what he is trying to say, I just think he simply misspoke, and I knew either you or Chizad would jizz all over it. Maybe it would have been a little better worded as "Some games will come down to the last two minutes", or, "We should play every play with the urgency of a two minute drill.", etc, instead of "When we win games at Auburn, it's going to come down to the last two minutes." There is no misreading what he actually said, no matter how you spin it.

Read it howeeeeeeever you want to read it then Spinmasterflex.   Yes.  I "jizzzzed alllll over it." 

 

[RWS]

Read it howeeeeeeever you want to read it then Spinmasterflex.   Yes.  I "jizzzzed alllll over it." 

 

"When we win games at Auburn, it's going to come down to the last two minutes"
"When we win games at Auburn, it's going to come down to the last two minutes"
"When we win games at Auburn, it's going to come down to the last two minutes"
"When we win games at Auburn, it's going to come down to the last two minutes"
"When we win games at Auburn, it's going to come down to the last two minutes"

I could paste it 5 more times, and its still the same damn quote. The fact that he misspoke doesn't change what he actually said. There is no other way to read it, other than he could have used a little better wording to say it. Unless he's just being pretty fucking honest.

[Kaos]

Every play should be played as if it's coming down to the last two minutes.  He's stressing that every play should be played with the urgency of the last two minutes of a game.  He's not saying that when Auburn wins games, it's always going to come down to two minutes. 

Nice try though.

 

:: Facepalm ::

Yes, Chopper, that's exactly EGG-FACKING-ZACTLY, what he's saying.   

Just let it go.  Scrape up the egg that's all over you and let it go.

[boartitz]

If he can misspoke like that, he may be presidential material.

[DnATL]

There is some logic there.  All games*, regardless of score, are won or lost when the clock hits 0:00, and that always happens right at the end of the final two minutes.  So maybe Chizik is just the college football version of Yogi Berra?

* Unless they are vacated, of course

[RWS]

There is some logic there.  All games*, regardless of score, are won or lost when the clock hits 0:00, and that always happens right at the end of the final two minutes.  So maybe Chizik is just the college football version of Yogi Berra?

* Unless they are vacated, of course

I certainly hope I simply missed the sarcasm stamp on this post....

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

:: Facepalm ::

Yes, Chopper, that's exactly EGG-FACKING-ZACTLY, what he's saying.   

Just let it go.  Scrape up the egg that's all over you and let it go.

Gene Chizik's ``situational'' scrimmage Saturday was devoted to such things as special teams and the two-minute offense and communications. It was less physical than some practices. Ball carriers were not tackled.

``When we win games at Auburn, it's going to come down to the last two minutes and that's the way we've got to feel,'' Chizik said. ``We've got to be very efficient at those parts of the game and we've got a long way to go in that direction. Again, we've got two weeks to work on and we've got a lot of good things to teach from.''

He might not have said it clearly enough to avoid the loonies from taking things so fucking literal, but a little look into the context from which it came, can make things clearer.  A fifth grader could figure it out.

If you two, Kaos and RWS, want to take it so literal and ignore what he was saying, then fine.  ....but the egg is on you, not me.

RWS, if you want to repeat a quote, time after time, try and quote it ALL.