any Eminem fans?

[Godfather]

and yet he is still white. 

Will Smith, thats where its at yall. I'm gettin jiggy with it right now!

[Buzz Killington]

and yet he is still white. 

Will Smith, thats where its at yall. I'm gettin jiggy with it right now!

Yeah...these parents just don't understand.

[Kaos]

Dre recieves way too much credit for Eminem. Until this album, he didn't have nearly the producing presence people thought. He was the Executive producer, which basically meant he fronted the money, and loaned the street cred

Slim Shady LP: 1 song produced exclusively by Dre, 1 song coproduced by Dre & someone else, 10 songs coproduced by Eminem & someone else

Marshall Mathers LP: 0 songs produced exclusively by Dre, 6 songs coproduced by Dre & Mel-Man, 6 coproduced by Eminem & someone else, 1 produced exclusively by Eminem

Eminem Show: 3 produced exclusively by Dre, 5 coproduced by Dre & Eminem, 11 produced exclusively by Eminem

Now for Relapse, Dre finally had more input than Eminem: 9 exclusively by Dre, 8 by Dre & someone else, 4 by Eminem & Dre, 1 exclusively by Eminem.

Produced schmuduced.  

Who built the beats.  Who backed the guy?   Dre put the hooks together for all of it.  Eminem is his little white bitch project.  Shady does not exist unless Dre says he does.  

Mr. Mathers speaking about Dre:
"Obviously his beats are insane but aside from that I can rap, I can write and not worry about what the beat has to sound like and how loud a snare drum is. All those things are taken care of for me."

[AUChizad]

Produced schmuduced.  

Who built the beats.

More often than not, Eminem himself. Reading is fundamental.

This assessment would hold water if all of Eminem's albums were produced similarly to his latest, but his debut/breakout album was almost exclusively done by Eminem and his coproducer from before he signed with Dre.

Dre is responsible for My Name Is, and half of Guilty Conscience (the other half of the production effort belonging to Eminem) on that record, and that's it.

[Kaos]

More often than not, Eminem himself. Reading is fundamental.

This assessment would hold water if all of Eminem's albums were produced similarly to his latest, but his debut/breakout album was almost exclusively done by Eminem and his coproducer from before he signed with Dre.

Dre is responsible for My Name Is, and half of Guilty Conscience (the other half of the production effort belonging to Eminem) on that record, and that's it.

BZZZTTT... You are incorrect. 

Eminem's first album was done by himself and didn't sell 500 copies.  His second, Slim Shady, was released to similar results until he was brought to Dre's attention.  Dre remixed the album, added his own flavor and re-released it on his label retitled slightly ( one was EP one was LP).   That's what brought Em to the forefront. 

On his own?  His mom wouldn't buy his shit.  Without Dre?  Mr. Mathers is a checkout boy at a Detroit Food Giant. 

[AUChizad]

BZZZTTT... You are incorrect. 

Eminem's first album was done by himself and didn't sell 500 copies.  His second, Slim Shady, was released to similar results until he was brought to Dre's attention.  Dre remixed the album, added his own flavor and re-released it on his label retitled slightly ( one was EP one was LP).   That's what brought Em to the forefront. 

On his own?  His mom wouldn't buy his shit.  Without Dre?  Mr. Mathers is a checkout boy at a Detroit Food Giant. 

BZZZTTT... You are incorrect.

Everything in your first paragraph supports what I said, with the exception of the sentence that I scratched out, which is simply not true. Dre put up the money and produced a song by himself, one with Mel-Man, and one with Eminem. He had nothing to do with the other 17 songs.

[Kaos]

BZZZTTT... You are incorrect.

Everything in your first paragraph supports what I said, with the exception of the sentence that I scratched out, which is simply not true. Dre put up the money and produced a song by himself, one with Mel-Man, and one with Eminem. He had nothing to do with the other 17 songs.

I will never understand your consistent tactic of taking something that says the EXACT opposite of what you're trying to convey and seizing on it as proof of your accuracy. 

Dude. Seriously. 

I was studying rap tunes when honeys were wearing sassoons.   Without Dre's backing -- both financial and musically -- Eminem does not exist.  Without Dre he is a whiny whigger.  Period. 

In numerous articles he admits he does not write his own hooks.  He either samples other work -- which requires nothing of him -- Dre does it himself or Dre tells the Bass Brothers what to do. 

Without Dre there is no Emenim. 

Here's some info for you:

The Slim Shady EP is a 1997 EP release by rapper Eminem on the Detroit-based record label Web Entertainment. The Slim Shady EP was released on cassette and CD. Eminem sold roughly 250 copies of this EP independently, according to an interview he did on Zane Lowe.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Slim_Shady_EP

Tracks: Intro, Lowdown Dirty, If I had, Just dont give a fuck, Mommy, Just the two of us, No one's iller, murder murder...


The songs "Just Don't Give a Fuck", "If I Had" and "97' Bonnie & Clyde" previously appeared on Eminem's independent album, The Slim Shady EP, in 1997. Dr. Dre was so impressed by the EP that he wanted to use some of the tracks on The Slim Shady LP. "Just Don't Give a Fuck" was given sharper and more impressive production, with additional instruments and sound effects, as well as cuts by Kid Rock. "97' Bonnie & Clyde" was given new keylines. The EP version, which was originally called "Just the Two of Us", featured a sample from a song of the same name by Grover Washington, Jr.



You do get that there's a difference between "produced" and "did the music for" don't you?

[Townhallsavoy]

Serious thread is too serious for such a shitty artist.
 
And fuck Dre.  He's not bad, but Biggie and Tupac is where it's at. 

Bitch. 

[Kaos]

Serious thread is too serious for such a shitty artist.
 
And fuck Dre.  He's not bad, but Biggie and Tupac is where it's at. 

Bitch. 

That did it. 

Rat a tat tat, motherfucker. 

[Thrilla]

That did it. 

Rat a tat tat, motherfucker. 

Do you ever hesistate to put a nigga on his back?

Just keep up the manuscript.

[Snaggletiger]

Death Row is the label that pays me.

[Jumbo]

Death Row is the label that pays me.

Unfadeable, so please don't try to fade this.

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

Eminem's got a few songs that are alright, but if he'd actually stuck those nine inch nails through his eyelids and dropped himself right there, I would have been cool with it also.