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Birmingham · « **on:** June 11, 2009, 02:43:47 PM »

HOLY SHIT THIS THING WAS RAMPANT!!!! EXTREMELY widespread.

I'm shocked that we only had to vacate wins. Unreal.

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #1 on:** June 11, 2009, 03:00:55 PM »

It is absofuckinglutely unreal that all you had to do was vacate wins.

16 of 19 sports. 16!! 201 total student athletes and guess who got the most money? Fucking football players. One player made $3900 off of textbooks.

7 football players were also named intentional wrongdoers. That means the NCAA investigated and found out the players knew that what they were doing was against the rules.

16 sports and 201 one kids is not a few college kids cheating a system. That's administrators (albeit librarians) knowingly helping athletes earn extra money.

Not to mention, this was inside the university. So, a university helping student athletes earn money is less severe than a rogue booster? Doesn't make sense to me.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #2 on:** June 11, 2009, 03:08:30 PM »

I can't listen to it...but I had no idea. Wow!!!!

Birmingham · « **Reply #3 on:** June 11, 2009, 03:15:17 PM »

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That's administrators (albeit librarians) knowingly helping athletes earn extra money.

Not to mention, this was inside the university. So, a university helping student athletes earn money is less severe than a rogue booster?

That's pure speculation. I'm amazed at the numbers but your comment is speculation.

RWS · « **Reply #4 on:** June 11, 2009, 03:23:21 PM »

Cash did not change hands. I believe they are talking about value of the books only not money somebody made from them.

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #5 on:** June 11, 2009, 03:25:18 PM »

Quote from: runswithscissors on June 11, 2009, 03:23:21 PM

Cash did not change hands. I believe they are talking about value of the books only not money somebody made from them.

I'm just going on what Ian and Lance said.

Their exact words - "The national perception will be 'this is how Bama was continuing to pay its players.'"

They're either saying the nation is comprised of morons or players at Alabama were making money off of the textbooks.

Birmingham · « **Reply #6 on:** June 11, 2009, 03:28:37 PM »

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I'm just going on what Ian and Lance said.

Their exact words - "The national perception will be 'this is how Bama was continuing to pay its players.'"

You conveniently left out that the next thing they said which was "They would be wrong for perceiving it that way but that's the way this will be perceived."

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #7 on:** June 11, 2009, 03:30:41 PM »

Quote from: Birmingham on June 11, 2009, 03:28:37 PM

You conveniently left out that the next thing they said which was "They would be wrong for perceiving it that way but that's the way this will be perceived."

I thought they meant that people would be wrong to think Bama was paying players through this, and that the correct interpretation should be the students were cheating a system.

Birmingham · « **Reply #8 on:** June 11, 2009, 03:32:27 PM »

wrong. They said it twice and made it clear that they were referring to peoples "wrong" perception that this is how the University is paying it's athletes.

Tiger Wench · « **Reply #9 on:** June 11, 2009, 03:33:20 PM »

Here's my perception - the NCAA is a bunch of spineless pussies.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #10 on:** June 11, 2009, 03:34:30 PM »

Question for the bama fans. What do you see as Mal Moore's legacy? Didn't he come in at the end of the Mike Dubose era and fire him? I don't think the Means stuff happened under him but the investigation and handling of it did. Is the hiring of Nick Saban the one real positive in his tenure?

Just axin' what ya'll think because that question was posed by our local sports talk guy this morning.