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« on: June 01, 2009, 01:42:17 PM »
Sad. While none will flatout admit it, it's clear that bammers are shitting their pants with fear from a combination of the impending NCAA sanctions and the success of the "Big Cat Weekend."

Their homer beatwriters are cranking out the sabotage pieces left and right.

Here, Evan Woodberry is attempting to deflect the NCAA to Auburn, I suppose. They always try shit like this when the hammer is about to come down on them (see Sociologygate).

http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2009/05/auburn_to_review_possible_seco.html

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Auburn to review possible secondary violations from 'Big Cat' weekend
Posted by Evan Woodbery, Press-Register May 31, 2009 9:57 PM
Categories: Football

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Toomer's Corner after an unidentified football game.AUBURN -- Auburn is examining whether any NCAA rules were broken during Saturday's "Big Cat" recruiting weekend.

An Auburn spokesperson told the Press-Register Sunday that the university had not determined if any NCAA secondary violations occurred, but would review the event this week.

 
Auburn hosted roughly two-dozen top prospects on unofficial visits, providing an activity-packed weekend that culminated in the rolling of Toomer's Corner late Saturday in front of more than 100 cheering fans.

At least two NCAA bylaws may have been breached during the weekend.

Although NCAA rules (Bylaw 13.10.6) bar the introduction of visiting student-athletes during any function, videos of the event posted on two Web sites show the crowd cheering as the players are introduced by name, position and hometown. The man yelling the introductions does not appear on the videos, but assistant head coach Trooper Taylor is shown leading the crowd in cheers immediately after the introductions.

Introduction of student-athletes would be a secondary violation and would not affect the athletes' eligibility.

NCAA Bylaw 13.10.5 prevents schools from publicizing an athlete's visit or allowing the visitor to "participate in team activities that would make the public or media aware of the prospective student-athlete's visit to the institution (e.g., running out of the tunnel with team, celebratory walks to or around the stadium/arena, on-field pregame celebrations)."

The rolling of Toomer's Corner was advertised on all three major Web sites that cover Auburn Saturday, with push-pinned message board posts urging fans to attend. The posts did not attribute the information to coaches or other Auburn staff members.

However, many fans did show up for what was clearly a planned event. Auburn police provided crowd and traffic control. Aubie, Auburn's mascot, helped lead cheers.

Any violation of this bylaw would also be a secondary institutional violation and would not affect a player's eligibility.

Generally, secondary violations are considered routine, and most universities regularly report minor violations of NCAA bylaws to their conference offices and the NCAA.

All prospects at Auburn on Saturday were on unofficial, or unpaid visits. Players are limited to five official visits beginning at the start of their senior year of high school. There is no limit on unofficial visits, but players and family members must pay for their own transportation, lodging, food and entertainment.

NCAA bylaws also bar prospects from participating in "game-day simulations" during an unofficial visit. While Toomer's Corner is rolled after football victories, it is also used for celebrations in other sports. It is sometimes rolled for community events and was even rolled after the election of Barack Obama in November.

Auburn hosted several elite prospects during the weekend, including running backs Lache Seastrunk (Temple, Texas) and Marcus Lattimore (Duncan, S.C.), receiver Trovon Reed (Thibodaux, La.) and linebackers Khairi Fortt (Stamford, Conn.) and LaDarius Owens (Bessemer). Seastrunk and Lattimore are ranked as the first and second best running backs in the country, respectively, by Rivals.com

Here Scarbinsky comes up with a Chizik bashing piece as a direct response to the "Big Cat Weekend". Basically an open letter to these recruits begging them not to go to Auburn "cause don't forget, Chizik was 5-19 at Iowa State. Did I mention Chizik was 5-19?"

http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2009/05/scarbinsky_secs_rookie_coaches.html

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What do Gene Chizik and Lane Kiffin have in common?

Wait. Is this a trick question?

At first blush, they're as different as Auburn and Tennessee orange.


Gene Chizik will be one of three SEC rookies roaming the sidelines this fall. Chizik has perfected the art of speaking without saying anything while Kiffin is a walking, talking voodoo doll. Every time he opens his mouth, a rival winces as if someone just lanced his eardrum with a straight pin.

OK, so they're not clones, but neither are they strangers.

By virtue of their new posts, they're 1-2 on Alabama's enemies list, in no particular order.

When they stand on opposite sidelines Oct. 3, it won't be the first time.

They schemed against each other in the greatest BCS game ever played, with Chizik as the Texas defensive boss and Kiffin as the USC offensive whiz in the Rose Bowl that gave the 2005 national title to the Longhorns.

Many more moons ago, as the defensive coordinator at Central Florida, Chizik would pick the brain of Kiffin's dad, Monte, then the defensive guru of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Oh, and Chizik and Kiffin the Younger have one more thing in common. Along with Dan Mullen, they make up the SEC freshman coaching class of 2009.

Let's be kind and say, based on their resumes to date, they have a fantastic opportunity to defy the experts.

Look at the record.

Chizik won five games in two years at Iowa State.

Kiffin won five games in less than two years with the Oakland Raiders.

Mullen's career mark: 0-0. He's undefeated and winless.

Do the math, and you don't even need your toes. The SEC's three new head coaches have combined to win 10 games in their careers as head coaches.

Is this the best conference in college football?

Or Junior Achievement?

Has the SEC ever welcomed, at the same time, more head coaches who've done less? If this were a recruiting class, it would be UAB.

It's easy to argue that Chizik, Kiffin and Mullen are good football coaches, but their best work was done as assistants. It's impossible to know if any or all of them will be good head coaches because, so far, they haven't been.

Lane Kiffin is making more noise than rookie coaches Gene Chizik and Dan Mullen, but is that a good thing?To make their jobs tougher, they'll be trying to learn on the job against some of the best minds in the business. Consider the collective accomplishments of the rest of the SEC's head coaches:
Six of them have won one or more BCS bowl games. Five of them have won one or more SEC titles. Four of them have won at least one national championship.

And that's after losing Tommy Tuberville and his SEC title/undefeated season and Phillip Fulmer and his BCS championship.

The argument in favor of Chizik and Kiffin vs. Tuberville and Fulmer is that, because they've done a lot less, it makes them hungrier to do more.

Witness the recruiting successes, on short notice, of both Auburn and Tennessee in their 2009 signing classes. Hear the buzz Auburn has created with the Tiger Prowl limo tour and the current Big Cat Weekend.

Getting the top two prep running backs in the nation and other high school studs on your campus at the same time doesn't mean they'll return to suit up one day, but it beats not getting them on your campus.

Of course, a weekend in May can be only so impressive.

It's the weekends in September, October and November that count.

We won't know till then whether the new cats in the conference really can run a team with the big dogs.

Which of the three newcomers has the best chance to become an old-timer? Don't bet the house, but put a nickel on Chizik.

So far, he's proven the most adept at keeping his mind open and his mouth shut.

Pathetic...
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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2009, 01:45:00 PM »
I am not scared.
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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2009, 01:45:11 PM »
Run...rabbit run.

Dig that hole, forget the sun.
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On the off-chance that the fairy tales ain't bunk
And Imma keep a bottle of that funk
To get motel parking lot, balcony crunk.

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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 01:45:33 PM »
Yup, the "Process" is in full swing.
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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2009, 01:47:19 PM »
Turn on WJOX.  Ian and Lance have run out of toilet paper.  The shit is just piling up on their show.  

Their talking points?  Lache (Lake, dickweeds) Seastrunk had the audacity to call out Nick Saban.  Auburn PURPOSEFULLY and BLATENTLY (yeah right, fuckheads) committed violations this weekend.  

Their reasoning?  

Chizik and crew have had enough experience as college coaches to know what's legal and what isn't.  For them to have the recruits' names called out at an organized event at Toomer's was a blatent violation.  
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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2009, 01:48:40 PM »
Here, Ian Rappaport riles up the bammers by posting Seastrunk's comments on Saban.

http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2009/05/auburn_recruiting_target_lache.html

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Auburn recruiting target Lache Seastrunk publicly calls out Nick Saban during "Big Cat Weekend"
Posted by Ian R. Rapoport -- The Birmingham News May 31, 2009 10:24 PM
Categories: Football, Recruiting

Inside the Auburn Tigers photo
Lache Seastrunk, post-rollingEven the non-recruitniks out there have probably heard about Auburn's "Big Cat Weekend," and if you didn't you can read all about it here. A very interesting idea, actually.
But as the videos circulate of the recruiting soiree, a few interesting tidbits have popped up. But, since this isn't an Auburn blog, you probably want to hear about the Alabama-related things, right?

So, let's bring your attention to two videos taken during the rolling of Toomer's Corner.

And both times, five-star running back recruit Lache Seastrunk, a top target for the Tigers, calls out Alabama coach Nick Saban by name.

Check these out:

 
-- About a minute into this video from the Opelika-Auburn News, as someone is announcing the name of Bessemer linebacker Ladarius Owens, Seastrunk yells, "Hey, tell Nick Saban, he's S.O.L!" That means, Saban is, um, apparently out of luck for Owens' recruitment.

-- At the very end of this video from AuburnSports.com, Seastrunk says into the camera, "What's up, Nick Saban? Wait 'til we get here." (You may need a subscription for this one.)

[Update: This is the Youtube clip of Rivals.com's video. Easier to see.]

Not that either of those comments are crazy or anything. It's just that you rarely hear a recruit call out a current coach.

So there you go...

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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2009, 01:49:19 PM »
Sad. While none will flatout admit it, it's clear that bammers are shitting their pants with fear from a combination of the impending NCAA sanctions and the success of the "Big Cat Weekend."

Their homer beatwriters are cranking out the sabotage pieces left and right.

Here, Evan Woodberry is attempting to deflect the NCAA to Auburn, I suppose. They always try shit like this when the hammer is about to come down on them (see Sociologygate).

http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2009/05/auburn_to_review_possible_seco.html

Here Scarbinsky comes up with a Chizik bashing piece as a direct response to the "Big Cat Weekend". Basically an open letter to these recruits begging them not to go to Auburn "cause don't forget, Chizik was 5-19 at Iowa State. Did I mention Chizik was 5-19?"

http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2009/05/scarbinsky_secs_rookie_coaches.html

Pathetic...


Yeah my thoughts exactly....Chiznik will be  :pwnd: by THE GREAT ONE
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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2009, 01:51:03 PM »
And to add, they every now and then say, "you know, what's most amazing about this topic is that Auburn actually had some of the biggest names in recruiting on campus this weekend." 

Yeah, you douchebag imbeciles, AUBURN could be the #1 story in recruiting this year. 

What's great is that if all goes as planned and envisioned, Alabama will be the #1 story in college football when the NCAA has their way. 
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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2009, 01:58:11 PM »
http://wireroadandshug.blogspot.com/2009/06/big-cat-weekend.html

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Big Cat Weekend.

Another winner by the dynamic duo of Luper & Trooper. Love the fact that Jay Barker-Evans (who kept intentionally mispronouncing Lache Seastrunk's last name) and Finebum got upset at Lache's calling out of Saban. Finebum even said Chizik's "cobbled together" staff was doing some good things, as if Malzahn and the rest were in the unemployment line begging for scraps when Auburn hired them. They wish Sabear had thought of this. That's 2/2 in making off-season noise regarding 'crootin for Auburn. Get used to it!

I'll be shocked, shocked if Seastrunk doesn't come to Auburn. And I think Auburn is going to get some of these guys.
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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2009, 02:01:12 PM »
And the "Big Cat Weekend" is now doing what it was supposed to do and that's get Auburn's name plastered all over the internet and papers, in off season recruiting and without committing violations, no less.  Word is the NCAA is going to put a stop to all other events like the "Big Cat Weekend", which means, Auburn will have the ONLY "Big Cat Weekend" after the NCAA stops it from happening again, LMFAO!!!
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"Patriotism and popularity are the beaten paths for power and tyranny." Good, no worries about tyranny w/ Trump

"Alabama's Special Teams unit is made up of Special Ed students." - Daniel Tosh

"The HUNH does cause significant Health and Safety issues, Health issues for the opposing fans and Safety issues for the opposing coaches." - AU AD Jay Jacobs

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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2009, 02:04:01 PM »
 Who won the pie eating and cow tippin contest?
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2009, 02:04:50 PM »
The thing is most big time programs dont have to throw toliet paper parties to impress recruits or get their names out there, so yeah you are right auburn will have the only big cat weekend.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2009, 02:12:32 PM »
The thing is most big time programs dont have to throw toliet paper parties to impress recruits or get their names out there, so yeah you are right auburn will have the only big cat weekend.
That's an Auburn Tradition just like the "Tiger Walk", drinking fresh squeezed lemonade from Toomer's Corner, eyeballing all of the beautiful Auburn girls in their sundresses and the Eagle flight.

So, bammer when recruits come to the cesspool, do y'all show them the bammer turdishiun?  You know like,  buying a fresh batch of Cocaine in the Athletic Deptartment parking lot, robbing some unsuspecting students at gunpoint, kicking at the windows of a Police Car, crying about getting arrested and how it'll affect their Draft status, drinkin' Natty Lights, wearing the "SPuat Wife Beaters" and of course beating up the spouse?
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"Patriotism and popularity are the beaten paths for power and tyranny." Good, no worries about tyranny w/ Trump

"Alabama's Special Teams unit is made up of Special Ed students." - Daniel Tosh

"The HUNH does cause significant Health and Safety issues, Health issues for the opposing fans and Safety issues for the opposing coaches." - AU AD Jay Jacobs

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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2009, 02:30:51 PM »
That's an Auburn Tradition just like the "Tiger Walk", drinking fresh squeezed lemonade from Toomer's Corner, eyeballing all of the beautiful Auburn girls in their sundresses and the Eagle flight.

So, bammer when recruits come to y'alls campus, do y'all take them to the nearest Trailer Park to take part in the bammer turdishiun, that would be drinkin' Natty Lights, wearing the "SPuat Wife Beaters" and of course beating up the spouse?

You forgot buying an eight ball in the AD parking lot.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2009, 02:52:22 PM »
You forgot buying an eight ball in the AD parking lot.
I fixed it.  I don't know how I could've forgotten about that bammer turdishiun.
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"Patriotism and popularity are the beaten paths for power and tyranny." Good, no worries about tyranny w/ Trump

"Alabama's Special Teams unit is made up of Special Ed students." - Daniel Tosh

"The HUNH does cause significant Health and Safety issues, Health issues for the opposing fans and Safety issues for the opposing coaches." - AU AD Jay Jacobs

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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2009, 03:11:15 PM »
Finebaum on Lache's comments about Saban in his opening segment:

"Not the most intelligent sounding verbal beatdown."
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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2009, 03:14:31 PM »
Uh Oh....here we go, Carnell Williams part two.
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"Patriotism and popularity are the beaten paths for power and tyranny." Good, no worries about tyranny w/ Trump

"Alabama's Special Teams unit is made up of Special Ed students." - Daniel Tosh

"The HUNH does cause significant Health and Safety issues, Health issues for the opposing fans and Safety issues for the opposing coaches." - AU AD Jay Jacobs

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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2009, 03:14:49 PM »
http://capstonereport.com/?p=2151

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Getting beyond Auburn’s cheating
Posted by capstonereport on June 1st, 2009 filed in General, Media Reviews
If the SEC and the NCAA want to cleanup the slime of recruiting, the organizations should focus less on oversigning and more on the recruiting sites and how they function as propaganda machines for the schools they cover.

The focus today will rightly be on whether Auburn cheated or not during a staged pep rally event for recruits; however, some focus should be on the alleged complicit way the Auburn Rivals.com site behaved in this matter.

The Auburn Rivals affiliate, Auburnsports.com, posted a video of the event at Toomer’s Corner, and then edited the video, according to numerous people who saw both videos. Fans who saw both copies posted at Rivals.com allege the parts removed from the video were the most damning, to wit, the recruits names being called out for the fans.

Independent media and more importantly regulators should ask, why the Auburn fan site edited the video AFTER the first questions were raised about the recruiting violations?

Did Auburn coaches contact the site asking for the editing? If not, what else prompted this? Was it the individual bias of the site’s publishers?

Either case is a threat to the editorial integrity of the entire Rivals.com brand. The model where team sites are run by essentially fans is good for grabbing cash from subscribers, but it is a horrible model for editorial independence. When these types of activities take place, the website is acting more as a booster and less as a media outlet.

Coaches already complain about the lack of integrity in these recruiting services. According to South Carolina coach Brad Lawing quoted in The State, “I can take a three-star and make him a four-star, and I can take a four-star and make him a three- or two-star with the contacts I have,” Lawing said. “That’s how ridiculous recruiting on the Internet is. I took Chris Culliver (USC safety) from a three- to a five-star in three weeks. All you’ve got to do is talk to the right people.”

Will the NCAA do the right thing and consider regulations against this type of inappropriate conduct? I’m not going to hold my breath, but something has to be done about this type of activity.
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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2009, 03:16:27 PM »
Finebaum on Lache's comments about Saban in his opening segment:

"Not the most intelligent sounding verbal beatdown."

I'm sure he'll have an excellent column tomorrow morning.  

Here's what I'm waiting for though - from every Bammer bobble head - in a few days:

"How much bigger and better of a program is Alabama that a few pointless NCAA sanctions have dwarfed the big AU kitty cat weekend?  I mean, no one is talking about Auburn anymore now that Alabama is back in the papers."

You know it's coming.  You know the spin is coming.    
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Re: Scared Bammers
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2009, 03:16:28 PM »
Finebaum sounds downright pissed off. He raised his voice to a level I have never heard when Charles from Realtown said "So what exactly did Auburn do wrong?"

He slammed his fist on the desk and screamed about how Auburn is cheating like mad.
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